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Anyway tie isn't "all but over" like that divvi declared at the end. Difficult task but it's hardly out of Barca's capabilities at the New Camp.

Tyldsley is so bad like. I've never heard such a pretentious bellend in my life.

Who haven't the board got along with like? Keegan because they went against their word? That's literally the only time a manager has left to club during Ashley's reign due to a fallout with the board.

Let's keep Pardew because he seems to get on with people? Yep, that's pretty much sealed it, the man has to go.

Ever the diplomat Whey it's true isn't it? Generally we would be slating Liverpool or Sunderland fans if they were after sacking a manager in this manner. Most of us were sick when Sunderland sacked MON and the bloke was having a better season than Pardew. Fair point, in that individual case. On the other hand, O'Neill hadn't been manager of the year the previous season and finished 5th. He also had a vastly inferior squad though. Pardew finished 5th with what was pretty much the 7th best squad in the league, Chelsea and Liverpool arguably the only squads that were better than hours but of course those poor sods had those nasty European competitions to worry about as well. OK, but the point is that Pardew had demonstrated something in getting the team to finish 5th. Whether it was a top 7 squad or a top 10 squad or a top 6 squad I've no idea really. I just assumed that the people on the outside that you were talking about were competent enough to look at things with basic logic, and not just "manager finish 5th, manger must never get sack".

Even crazier when these people can list a number of reasons he should be sacked in their own article that's supposed to be a defence of him. At least I assume Simon Bird was trying to defend him - It could just be a parody. The world isn't Pardew defenders and Pardew haters FFS, he is pointing out things he has done wrong. Admitting he has done things wrong is part of a reasonable assessment of the situation, he obviously has. Eh? That part was him trying to back Pardew. That it came across as criticism just emphasises how bad he is - the best thing anyone can say about him is that he attempted to correct some of his own horrendous errors. aye. He finished 5th last year too, mind.

Ever the diplomat Whey it's true isn't it? Generally we would be slating Liverpool or Sunderland fans if they were after sacking a manager in this manner. Most of us were sick when Sunderland sacked MON and the bloke was having a better season than Pardew. Fair point, in that individual case. On the other hand, O'Neill hadn't been manager of the year the previous season and finished 5th. He also had a vastly inferior squad though. Pardew finished 5th with what was pretty much the 7th best squad in the league, Chelsea and Liverpool arguably the only squads that were better than ours but of course those poor sods had those nasty European competitions to worry about as well.

Ever the diplomat Whey it's true isn't it? Generally we would be slating Liverpool or Sunderland fans if they were after sacking a manager in this manner. Most of us were sick when Sunderland sacked MON and the bloke was having a better season than Pardew.

Aye I think that article was definitely done in jest.

:lol: fucking quality banter that mind mate, how did you come up with it?

But aye we finished fith etc etc, I kna.

I know you're not going to revisit this argument, but I'm quoting it anyway. Bad season? Completely the manager's fault. Good season? Not exclusively or even significantly the manager's doing. I think most would accept that a lot of this season isn't down to Pardew, he's had horrible luck. That isn't the point though, it's that he shows no qualities that suggest he can move us forward as a club, and it would seem that if we continue with him into next season would have the same problems as we have had this and last. We've always been very easy to play against and I doubt his rigid but defensively sound game plan will ever work again to the effect it did last season.

Spot on Berren

He definitely hasn't had an easy ride but he's shown enough to suggest that we would be far better off with a new man at the helm (obviously dependant on who we can get). Not that I have any real worries if he stays, I think we'll spend again in the summer and he'll be OK, he'll just always be holding us back, we've outgrown him. I don't see why Pardew deserves credit for our scouting system though? Not that I don't believe he has a say in our transfers, I just think he's very replaceable in that regard. Again though any new man coming in would have to accept that he won't have 100% control over that area, something Pardew does without complaint.

"Yes, it's been a very poor season. Newcastle have lost HALF of their league games, seven at home. They've exited both cups at the first hurdle, in meek fashion. They have leaked goals, turned in passion free performances and lacked a bit of heart at times. And yes, they were crucified by Sunderland at home in the North East derby. But sack the manager?" Err, yes?

how does this man have a job in sports journalism?

Aye, it's pretty sad really that we're having to play a bloke with what appears to be a cracked rib

A cracked rib would be almost unplayable I'd imagine, you would be in constant pain (although obviously he would have injections) and breathing is difficult. Even a bruised rib is a massive pain in the arse. It must be in a very fortunate place if it is cracked.

Pretty admirable that he's still been grafting his arse off with a cracked rib mind, if that's the case.

You need to inspect the question further though to see the true genius of it, it's effectively a challenge. If Pardew talks he's failed the challenge and is in fact a gobshite. Neesy 1 - 0 Pards.

This is just depressing.

It's 2 in the morning like so I'll let someone else take over this cap debate I'm not sure what I would do though but I think there would be a fair way if it was looked into properly and the main motivation for it wasn't just "how much money can the league make/lose out of this". I suppose a transfer cap in some way would be sensible, wages is obviously harder to go about but a team wage cap rather than individual wage cap would be something I would look at if it was my job to Hopefully the rest comes to me in a dream and I'll fucking blow you away with a load of mind boggling shit in the morning

I don't get this. I feel like this is the wall between us here. Implementing a system that allows every team a shot at the title doesn't devalue it. If West Brom win the title, they were the best team. If we're mad about that, beat West Brom. It would ultimately come down to a head to head matchup, instead of hoping that your strength of schedule is comparable to that of your biggest rival for the title. Thanks Mike. Get the fuck outta here. It devalues it because it's infinitely more difficult to win the league over the course of 38 games than just finishing 8th and fluking the play offs. I mean the sole purpose of introducing it seems to be "so more teams have a chance" so of course the achievement is of less value It's harder because you've got a handful of teams spending more money than most teams combined. The title of your signature league shouldn't be the plaything of a handful of barely concerned billionaires. Opening the door for a Cinderella from time to time adds value to the sport. Are we talking title next year? Are we talking anything? We're just going to spin our wheels while we wait for the manager to get fired, then we'll just spin them some more while that same handful of teams poach our best players. I know what you're saying, and the only reason I would prefer to keep things as they are are just because it's "just the way it is" (if it was the other way around I would probably be campaigning to keep the play-offs). People hate change and that would be pretty huge fucking change It goes without saying that there's a massive problem with money in the league, and hopefully it's sorted to some degree, I just wouldn't want it to be that way.

But the PL isn't the old First Division anymore. Like it or not, the PL has more in common with the NFL than it does the Championship, in terms of them being businesses first. It was re-branded in 92 but it still dates back to the late 1800s. It's part of the oldest football league system in the world as far as I know.