BrettNUFC

I don't know, we came out second half looking for a 3rd, then the scored and the team seemed to go into defensive mode, Pardew was trying to urge them forward but we were gettign deeper and deeper. Like you say it's most games though, we seem to just pick one half in which we play fooball in. Not sure why this is.

We are a bit Jekyll and Hyde at the moment and Pardew's right when he's scratching his head wondering if we are a really good side or a bad side, personally i think we're a really good side. Think the players deserve huge credit, doing us proud.

Thought we could have coped better once they scored, we came out the second half with the right attitude and looked to attack them but as soon as the goal went in we retreated somewhat. I know you expect the home side to come on strongly for the equaliser and we deserve credit for showing the desire to hang in there to get the 3 points but felt the team could have responded slightly better. Pardew was trying to urge them up the field but we seemed to be getting deeper and deeper. All in all though was an excellent team performance, showed the spirit and character we have in the side to bounce back from that first half Everton performance and done well to carry the second half of that over to Saturday. Much needed 3 points with the fixtures we have coming up, hopefully we will get a surprise result in their somewhere.

Seems so Maybe people have the same points to make but are trying not to moan in the face of victory? That's my outlook on it. Everything that I think about Pardew, Ashley, our set up and the way that we play still stands. That doesn't mean that I want to spend my week bleating on about the same things when we've won. Otherwise what little joy would there be? Yeah suppose that's true, easier to get the points over on the back of loss rather than a victory.

Seems so

I'd like to think his past history of tearing Enrique a new arsehole would get him a start however i feel Saturday's team performance will keep him on the bench. Was devastated when he was dropped but i couldn't complain at half time, we did seem to have a nice balance to the side. Gouffran is proving himself to be a very shrewd purchase, be nice to see him get a game through the middle but his outstanding work rate is probably holding him back from such chance as he really does put a shift in when on the wing. Think it’s time for Ben Arfa to knuckle down again and force his way back in the side, which is criminal really for the start he has had to this season, should be one of the first on team sheet.

I was expecting an upbeat forum after a win

Criticised him for not playing hba/Anita/mym, he proved what I know, shit all, great result, great tactics! Got a bit nervy when they scored which once again our players need to improve on but overall it was a sense of relief and satisfaction! Love international breaks on the back of a win!....Apologies to those who wanted him to lose so he would be sacked!

And? Oh nothing, just been reading an article about it and just never realised he was offered this position

Fulham for example this season. Poor first half and very good second half + winner. You never know when he wakes up He got a 'telling off' as you will at half time from Pardew and benefited from it. That was actually good management tbf to him. How do you know that ? You were in the dressing room at HT ? Pardew mentioned it in his press conference afterwards, can't remember exacting wording, was something like 'had to have a word with Hatem at half time,i felt he was slowing us down', can't remember the whole spiel but it was something like that, then basically licked his bum hole for how good his second half was. If that's true, why didn't he try the same approach against Everton? “I said to Hatem at half-time, ‘you need to seriously think about what you’re doing, because you’re slowing us down and making poor decisions with the ball’.” That was the quote from him. As for Everton, i don't know. Probably didn't trust him to listen to any defensive tactics After that and you still defend Pardew. 'Didn't trust him to listen to any defensive tactics' when down 3-0... Thought the smiley would give the hint i was just joking on rather than that being me defending Pardew's tactics, like. I don't know why he was brought off, like i've said, i wouldn't replace him in any game. It's hard to be too angry about the departure though when effectively the second half was a massive improvement so Pardew can easily justify it but it still doesn't bed well with me.

I don't think many fans would accept any manager going from 5th to 16th, majority would soon turn over the course of a shit season, imo.

Malky Mackay saying he was offered assistant manger job here to work with Pards but turned down role to take over Cardiff. Since then Pardew’s been a sort of mentor to him over past few years.

Those quotes were from the Fulham game, not Everton btw. I personally would have kept him on, but i would never take him off unless the game was wrapped up with 3 points in the bag, but i can't remember the last time we were actually in a position where the game was wrapped up early

Fulham for example this season. Poor first half and very good second half + winner. You never know when he wakes up He got a 'telling off' as you will at half time from Pardew and benefited from it. That was actually good management tbf to him. How do you know that ? You were in the dressing room at HT ? Pardew mentioned it in his press conference afterwards, can't remember exacting wording, was something like 'had to have a word with Hatem at half time,i felt he was slowing us down', can't remember the whole spiel but it was something like that, then basically licked his bum hole for how good his second half was. If that's true, why didn't he try the same approach against Everton? “I said to Hatem at half-time, ‘you need to seriously think about what you’re doing, because you’re slowing us down and making poor decisions with the ball’.” That was the quote from him. As for Everton, i don't know. Probably didn't trust him to listen to any defensive tactics

Fulham for example this season. Poor first half and very good second half + winner. You never know when he wakes up He got a 'telling off' as you will at half time from Pardew and benefited from it. That was actually good management tbf to him. How do you know that ? You were in the dressing room at HT ? Pardew mentioned it in his press conference afterwards, can't remember exacting wording, was something like 'had to have a word with Hatem at half time,i felt he was slowing us down', can't remember the whole spiel but it was something like that, then basically licked his bum hole for how good his second half was.

Fulham for example this season. Poor first half and very good second half + winner. You never know when he wakes up He got a 'telling off' as you will at half time from Pardew and benefited from it. That was actually good management tbf to him. I'll give credit where it's due but HBA did nothing different 2nd half tbf. Was well mentioned on here at the time. Personally think the same criticism was justified at Everton myself. Just wouldn't have taken him off for it. Surprised by that, thought HBA was far better in the second half, whereas first half he was a bit of one man on a mission and never really looked up, second half he was a lot livelier and got more players involved in the game and our team benefited from this.

Fulham for example this season. Poor first half and very good second half + winner. You never know when he wakes up He got a 'telling off' as you will at half time from Pardew and benefited from it. That was actually good management tbf to him.

Was to stop Kanchelskis run riot, he still did like.

Until Ashley leaves the club we are fucked either way. We'll never achieve what we want to achieve under him, best we can hope for is just staying in this league and maybe getting some results again and finishing as high up as possible, we'll never look to build on anything, we had our chance, even if it comes along again, we'll probably not change too much from last time.

I think it's the genuine lack of options tbh. ...or because its his best position maybe ? He's not all that great in the tackle and forever mistiming them and giving away freekicks etc. However he really does have a great shot and eye for goal and is a very good passer of the ball ! Attacking midfielder is clearly his best position ! It's really not

Said it loads, he's capable of getting a good running going but if things spiral out of control over next couple of games, he's not good enough to get us out of it like he showed last season. If the players get some confidence and a formation starts to work well, results will come under him regardless of his ability because we have a talented bunch. I don't want Pardew sacked simply because i'm not sure i could handle another disastrous appointment without having a meltdown.

What do you base that on? I don't recall anyone being on Keegan's back or Hughton's, because they were doing a decent job. I was on Hughton's back a fair bit like, never thought he was good enough for us like and we should be looking to upgrade even though he did an excellent job in championship. So you were on Hughton's back despite the fact he got us promoted and finishing in a very respectable position in the premier first time round, yet you have a problem with people having a go at Pardew? Have i said i have a problem with it? Just because I’ll voice an opinion against someone elses doesn’t mean to say I have a problem with them. I've always said i do understand why people hate Pardew but personally i'm just backing him to turn it around because he has the players to do so rather than I actually think he is any good. Along with the fact after I thought Ashley did the right think in binning CH, he followed it up with a disastrous appointment and don’t trust him again to make a good judgement call especially now with Kinnear doing the advising. I thought Hughton did his job, got us back in the prem but never felt he could take us any further, thought we should have upgraded but we didn't, rather just side stepped.

What do you base that on? I don't recall anyone being on Keegan's back or Hughton's, because they were doing a decent job. I was on Hughton's back a fair bit like, never thought he was good enough for us like and we should be looking to upgrade even though he did an excellent job in championship.

So the last 25 minutes against Fulham backed up by a 90 minute display agsint Villa only resulted in a 'teeny bit of hope', you not even think we still have the potential even after the last two results with that side? Not for me mate, 115mins of football is hardly concrete proof of hope. Not concrete but it should be worth focusing on and improving that side in that formation, sadly it doesn't look like that's going to be the case now anyways, nevermind.

So the last 25 minutes against Fulham backed up by a 90 minute display agsint Villa only resulted in a 'teeny bit of hope', you not even think we still have the potential even after the last two results with that side?