Jack Flash

Crystal Palace to part company with Ian Holloway today, ITV Football understands.

Mertesaker I think.

I had to turn it off. Sounds like it was taped on a knackered Talkboy.

Overrated is harsh. They've probably scored about 400 goals between them from midfield and both won the CL, which is rare for an English player. Probably assisted a few hundred goals between them too.

Wait a few months and get it second hand off Amazon or Play. Then you can piss on it after reading it and not get fined/banned.

Can't wait to see fat Colo.

Yeap, could hear them turning off a microphone. Just did it again.

Sky blatantly lowered the sound of the crowd during that chant.

They've got Arsenal next.

Shit/unlikely players scoring incredible goals is one fo' the little things in football thread.

If RVP scored that we'd never hear the end of it. This game looked so shit a few hours ago.

Soldado has either assisted or scored 5 of Tottenham's league 8 goals. Got a few goals in Yewrup too, taking him to 5 in 9. Him and Negredo are both fantastic old fashioned strikers.

Krul made 5 saves according to OPTA, which only counts goal stopping saves. He made 1 against Cardiff, 4 against Everton and 2 against Hull for comparison.

It's coincidental. I've only had Nolan (in a few different poses) and now Ravel who I love watching. The future Carlton Cole one will be hard to explain though.

1 Trevor? Booking.

Only 1 Trevor in 7 games this season. Worth mentioning now before he adds to it during the derby game.

Or secret option 3, which is he gets fired soon (or indeed last summer) and we get someone else in. Yeyyyy!!!! Kinnear! WOOP WOOP! He'll be 67 in a few months and managers don't tend to last much longer than that, especially here. We've finished off far better and younger managers than him (Dalglish, Gullit, Souness, Roeder, Keegan etc). Would you honestly rather have Kinnear than Pardew? I want them both out of the picture as neither are the long term answer. The one thing we can guarantee is that Kinnear won't be around long whereas Pardew could be here for 7 more years.

Or secret option 3, which is he gets fired soon (or indeed last summer) and we get someone else in. Yeyyyy!!!! Kinnear! WOOP WOOP! He'll be 67 in a few months and managers don't tend to last much longer than that, especially here. We've finished off far better and younger managers than him (Dalglish, Gullit, Souness, Roeder, Keegan etc).

Or secret option 3, which is he gets fired soon (or indeed last summer) and we get someone else in.

Indeed. Any improvement this season is being measured by last season, which any half decent manager should be able to better. We didn't lose 6-0 at home to Liverpool this year? Well done, Alan.

Pardew being kept on this season was enough for me. It was everything that decision stood for coupled with the way we're treated as a fanbase that stopped me going to games. The lack of relatable players is another issue for another thread though. Went to nearly all the games last year (home and away) so maybe my tolerance is lower than most.

I doubt that's something that concerned anyone prepared to throw a firework at the ref in a stadium full of people. Makes it far easier for the LAPD to take them downtown and bust their asses.

The 1-1 last year at Anfield was the quietest home crowd I've ever seen at an away game. Only the goal and them getting soaked got a response.

Throwing something that leaves a trail is very thick.