Tiresias

dear god if that happened it would be the biggest and quickest bursting of a bubble ever. Suddenly its clear the owners will be a disaster after all, all the well earned team spirit gone and disbelief from fans. You would almost have to just laugh

Imagine going back a year and showing that to us end of last season You;d never believe it

Pretty much this, the board certainly have made a bunch of mistakes with poor transfers but don't think anything wrong with Arteta clearing out a bunch of them for a young side with potential, but they are just that, they clearly lack a nous, they are streaky, win a bunch in a row then have a bunch of losses in a row. Need some signings, need more experience. I saw a lot saying how much of a disaster Europa league is and some arsenal fans decrying how embarrassing it is, but quite frankly if that team want to compete for the top 4 they need toughening up. Playing a gruelling schedule and playing Genk away on a Thursday night could be exactly what they need to face champions league a season later. They need depth adding and a striker sure.

While yes we make his passing look average on there he's still in 96th percentile for successful passing under pressure

Just clocked, after that game of high intensity pressing from us we didn't get a single yellow card...

Should be asleep right now but cant stop grinning watching bruno joining in the song

I think that's slightly unfair, gerrard and lampard get plenty of wanking off from the press too. It did feel unfair he didnt get given a shot immediately after but he has used his time away to develop which is what a lot of british coaches fail to do. I think kinda we were suited to this, as grim as the bruce years were we have never had a 'toxic' dressing room really (the toxicity all came from Bruce more than anything) the players were dragging us over the line frequently but there was no plan and under bruce they were bascally given half the days off and do fuck all when meant to be training. The camaraderie has got better but it was there before there are lot of good characters in dressing room ready for Howe's approach

Can we voluntarily give those points away as tainted then hahaha

Just noticed how much that makes the bald coach on the right look completely like a Sontaran from Dr Who...

Yeah they were very poor on the break, they wanted to control game bt were totally unable to and they barely threatened for most the game. When they did try and stretch the game and get it going end to end they couldnt sort out final ball at all. I think they lack cool heads on the pitch to take sting out of games. They needed to slow down the game and hit us on break when they got a chance, we were so fired up they needed to quieten the crowd.

No he's gone 4-3-3 and I think it took a while to get us passing at all and then Burn and Schar became first choice that has worked out. Been a bit less possession focused and the big surprise from his reputation was we have been largely (with a few notable exceptions) very solid. He's mainly got the whole team pressing harder and as season gone on higher up the pitch.

worrying

what a wonder a good coach is to make players better. The sheer stupidity of ashley sticking with bruce, with every day he drained quality out of players and reduced their value. Thats the insane thing, he could have sucked way more money out of us if he wasnt too lazy to.

hmmm i see, and saka, martinelli, odegaard and smith rowe are all exciting, but they are young and not quite consistent yet. You are right they should outweigh kane and son, but they don't, kane and son are that much better that you can have a much more meh team behind them (kulesevski looks very good too mind)and you are going to get more points

im pretty sure ben white has had better games, he is coming back form injury. Arsenal are not that bad a team, but they are a team where all the discourse is hysterical. They have fallen short of top 4 which they really should have managed basically out of a fair amount of luck and incompetance elsewhere but they are, as carragher pointed out, no way the fourth best team in the league. They dont need massive investment, need a statement midfielder and a decent striker and their first choice cbs to stay fit and they'll be decent enough. They are a long long long way off chelsea, man city and liverpool though, but everyone else is.

i know but when analysing why arsenal lost a bit of it has to be maybe they came across a really good team who played really well. Part of this era when everyone gets so angry at their own team feels to me that a lot of fans forget there is another team on the pitch all together

does sound like arsenal tbf

just 100% about arsenal nothing on how well we played at all

think thats more a symptom of long term poor thinking than anything. Maitland Niles probably was daft always looked decent, chambers never convinced me. PEA should never have been given ludicrous contract in a panic and the £70m on pepe could have been spent better on several players. They are not a top 4 team, they are an exciting young team that when everything goes well and have full strength can beat anyone, but mostly they are fairly average. They have a mentality problem shown from recent implosions. They probably don't deserve quite the slagging off they are receiving, champions league would be a silly over performance. They have some really good players, particularly young ones. They need to build the squad depth, and rather than dwell on this go and win the europa league

i always feel a bit bad for managers in these interviews, just repeated 'we were shit' 'why were you shit?' 'dunno just really shit' 'how shit were you?' 'very shit' 'you've really fucked it up you know' 'yes'

ASM was much better yes, didnt keep running into cul de sacs, kept to a job, could have scored a wonder goal

Absolutely tireless tonight

What a way to finish season at home, best I've seen us play for a long long time. Absolutely beasted them in all areas.

GET THE FUCK IN WHAT A GAME

pepe there hahahahaha