Tiresias

Anderson has had flashes but tbh probably hasn't shown enough, not sure he's going to be an elite premier league midfielder i wouldn't be terribly upset with him off, but i have also been wrong before.

I don't have any problem with the clubs doing this it makes perfect sense, however even if there werent any other issues FFP encouraging academy products to be traded around for the sake of balancing books, and even just being sold for profit having broken into first team is absolutely ridiculous and should be cause enough for it to be completely rethought to achieve what they said it was meant to do. Clubs should be actively encouraged to bring through and play their youth products. Is there anything sadder than like Connor Gallagher being lined up to be sold by Chelsea, he's a chelsea fan who came through system and has captained them. How can it be right that the club benefits way more selling him than keeping him?

I still can't get over the annoyance at the gardening leave thing as if that isn't common practice and offering less than we paid... I get negotiating down our high price totally but to less than we paid what did he think would happen?

Mad how ref missed that was a corner what on earth!

Oh and Bellingham is unbelievable.

I am not going to overreact, it's a win, we didn't concede and plenty of good tournament teams grind them out. But there is some muddy thinking going on. I do not blame Southgate too much for Foden having a poor game, I think he would be entitled to expect Foden to be more effective than he was. But I do not understand why we are having TAA learn to be a midfielder at a tournament...Also when Gallagher comes on for him looks like he is the backup, now I do rate Gallagher but again he is a bustling risk taking player. England does not produce players who try and keep posession unfortunately. Lewis Cook from Bournemouth is the only one but he seems to have been nowhere near. Wharton may be that, but you can tell he hasn't been in the set up long enough for Southgate to trust too much. Again however, digging in and grinding out a 1-0 is very much a good quality for a tournament team. I hope Gordon gets a shout, he would be so much better on that left side than Foden was. Foden is a genius player though but coming on for a tired Saka on his preferred side at 60 minutes could be just as helpful.

get a proper fucking midfielder on and gordon on

im sorry being able to do accurate long balls does not mean you can be an engine room midfielder, that error was exactly the error you expect from someone being asked to do midfield who isnt used to it. Keeping the ball so important.

Looked back and just hand on back with no force clear dive. Terrible reffing yes if was foul should be red but was no more a foul than it was a unicorn.

I didn't see any contact from rhodri at all tho... Am i going mad???

There was no contact I'm so confused why was ever awarded or an i confused need to see it again could bit see any contact at all hilarious stuff

John Carver lol

Fair enough. I agree with all that, I do think making it a bit public maybe didn't help. I think i have got the impression from the man management from all the constant stories but thinking it over may just be the mad media around the club blowing everything out of proportion. I retract my argument

Ronaldo looked spot on, the Sancho thing looked like Sancho was being unprofessional but also like it got blown up into a massive standoff that i think a better manager would have found a way to defuse and got some performance out of him who may need different management to get back to his best. It's difficult to know if there is a lot of drama because of the manager or just because of the clown show behind the scenes where everything gets leaked. So will retract partially.

Ten Hag has to be a better manager than he has shown, but he has made some outrageous man management blunders it seems, and his transfers havent inspired, but there generally is a lot of positives to keeping managers in situ, I think there definitely has been a move away from the culture of sacking managers so quickly almost everywhere but Chelsea just out of seeing how well the likes of Arteta have done once they are stable and got everything how they want, it takes time.

For teh record he is a very good player, but he's very much a tradeoff player, he will get caught out of position and you have to accept that because he will create a lot of goals doing what he does, and if you have a quick in form virgil van dyke alongside he will sweep up the occasional mess. Has Klopp played TAA in midfield in any of the big games? Or was it in a game where Liverpool were going to dominate and needed to break down a low block. That is the scenario I can maaaaaybe see some merit and maybe that will be the case but I just don't think Southgates England dominate games like that on the regular, there is normally some defending required and i'd prefer the midfield to be keeping possession or pressing high to regain, will TAA not just float around too much? Hmmmm

I swear to god TAA is going to have to perform like fucking beckenbauer to get me to accept he's actually a midfielder. I still only think it gets bandied about because he's shit at defending but I also think you kinda have to have spatial awareness as a midfielder too...

Absolutely captain material. Great mentality, wonderful role model to the younger players ans quite frankly think the whole city would follow him into war

I'd have been shocked if he was culled, his end product has been great and he is very much southgate style. Suspect he will be on bench a lot due to foden tho

Ballooning prices and agent fees had meant that increased revenue by a lot of clubs has not led to greater spending power, and as soon as a player has a sniff of being quality they immediately are priced out of anywhere but the richest who will hoard as many players as possible almost as much to keep them away from rivals. It's good for clubs that can produce this talent but it's also generated a sporting ecology where a lot of clubs only ambition is to sell anyone who's any good. I know all rules gone we could spend our way to the top. But all this spending is toxic i believe. All those hundred million in agents fees could be spent reducing ticket prices

But that's what they did they said it won't be approved if 777 couldn't do x and 777 couldn't do X. I don't see why the league should be imposing deadlines that would just be arbitrary. The only reason it's taken so long is because of Everton not the league.

Completely disagree. Why shouldn't the league say it can go ahead with these stipulations? Why should it be on the league to call time on it? Maybe the company could come through with their demands as unlikely as it clearly was? Just saying no when circumstances change would be ludicrously arbitrary. The rules should clearly be takeovers are allowed if criteria are met not we say no then no matter what changes it's still a no? It is entirely on moshiri too live in the delusion they would come through, not for the league to talk an owner into common sense. Everton fans I've spoken to have long long long been aware 777 was never going to go through. Slating the league for the delusion of the owner is nonsense.

Doesnt want to come? Don't want him. We'll sign someone else. People are so traumatized by the Ashley era when we would pick one target, pursue all window and then they'd turn us down and teh club would shrug like nothing they could do

777 should absolutely not be allowed to take over a football club they are a borderline pyramid scheme and the takeover was delayed because basically the premier league said no chance unless you can demonstrate a standard of liquidity that it was beyond obvious that they never would. Everton should have pulled the plug on it there and then but Moshiri continued to bet everything that this dodgy company defaulting on huge debts here there and everywhere would somehow prove themselves to actually have money they never did. This was the regulation actually doing it's job all the blame needs to fall on Moshiri (and 777 group but really they are chancers whose model relies on moving debt around and continually expanding to pay off the increasing debt, a model with a very obvious end point).

He was excellent a few times bit anonymous the others, was just acclimatizing to new league etc very normal. Hopefully season in training will have got him up to speed, though I do worry about actual match sharpness with so much time out, it can never be quite the same on a training ground