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Rafa used it to win stuff, though. That's true. Apart from fluking the European Cup, I feel Rafa should have done wayyyy more with the squads he had. Consistently got them to at least Champions League semis at least iirc which is a brilliant achievement for the team he had. Over the course of a season the team with the best players generally wins and I think Chelsea and Man Utd at the time had better players so wouldn't blame Rafa too much

What has he done? Wanting to go to a better team isn't a crime

I would disagree strongly with this. Sterling is a bit of an outlier IMO. Most young players would be happy to play for Liverpool, a once great club who are now usually 5th or 6th apart from the upsurge of last season where they came 3rd. Sterling wants to go to a club that is going to win things which Liverpool aren't unless they somehow get another Suarez. By the way, Liverpool fans are the most fickle cunts ever. They think that despite not having won the Premier League/First Division in 25 years that Real Madrid and Barcelona are the only acceptable clubs to go to if you leave Liverpool. They briefly hated their hero Stevie G who even at that stage was an absolute legend at the club when he wanted to leave, same with Torres, Suarez, the first time he wanted to leave and now Sterling

He isn't that bad in general. A slightly below average premier league midfielder. Generally keeps the ball when he gets it and is alright at winning it too. I don't think he is the right midfielder to be complaining about when Ryan Taylor is in our midfield at present

There should be. He should be trying to impress bigger clubs and getting into the national team but instead is happy to play with a shit team getting worse himself all the time

If they do get a run out then surely these guys will be playing in order to get a look in for next season or a move away. Aye but the last time they played a lot of youngsters didn't they get hammered by MK Dons

Only saw the highlights but Sissoko seemed our biggest threat going forward and almost always is. We don't have anybody better than Krul either

He is Irish. No he isn't

Albrighton looks and sounds like a 14 year old

Why? What are we gonna do, bench him? If he's got ambition he'll leave. Ambition is leaving as you said. He's not going to get a decent club to sign him until he improves his kicking by a million percent

If Krul had any ambition he'd spend the whole summer practising his kicking with a professional coach. I know the goalkeeping coach we have may be shit but Krul himself should be able to see that he has to improve and should do it himself

What kind of a kid wants a fucking John Carver autograph?

80% chance Hull beat Man Utd

You just completely contradicted yourself

He cares though mate Riviere

The shit guy that gets praised for caring about the club despite being one of the worst players I've seen in the premier league

Shane Long has scored two goals? Fucking hell

Is it not players who've played & managed the same club? Ah for the halcyon days of Ruud Gullit tearing apart the second division with us and Michael Laudrup playing in the third division for Swansea

Not sure Neymar will get one. Messi will get another 3 or 4 and then there will be a new guy in the world. Imagine if Messi ended with like 8 Ballon D'or's Its definitely possible tbf I think he'll end up in double figures providing he stays injury free. If Neymar outscores him in the CL, wins Copa America and has a better start it's going to end up in Brazil. On a serious note, if Cristiano wins it and Messi doesn't i'll give up on football. He's only 4 years younger than Messi. At his peak, Messi will still be Messi, don't see any reason why he couldn't though. That front 3 has been so dreamy to watch. Closer to five than four but I get your point. I seriously doubt Neymar will be the best around when Messi retires/becomes too old. Will have to be someone new coming through. Neymar is very good but it's sad when he's not really close to being a Ronaldo, Romario, Rivaldo or Ronaldinho. He's not even a Kaka. Someone has hacked Flip lets be honest he's a very good player at the moment with Robben out even a top 5. But I think thats more down to overall quality on an individual level than down to his quality. 10 years ago he'd probably be on the bench of the national side, now he's a star and main guy. No fucking way like

Not sure Neymar will get one. Messi will get another 3 or 4 and then there will be a new guy in the world. Imagine if Messi ended with like 8 Ballon D'or's Its definitely possible tbf I think he'll end up in double figures providing he stays injury free. If Neymar outscores him in the CL, wins Copa America and has a better start it's going to end up in Brazil. On a serious note, if Cristiano wins it and Messi doesn't i'll give up on football. He's only 4 years younger than Messi. At his peak, Messi will still be Messi, don't see any reason why he couldn't though. That front 3 has been so dreamy to watch. Closer to five than four but I get your point. I seriously doubt Neymar will be the best around when Messi retires/becomes too old. Will have to be someone new coming through. Neymar is very good but it's sad when he's not really close to being a Ronaldo, Romario, Rivaldo or Ronaldinho. He's not even a Kaka. Someone has hacked Flip

Froggy out

Like: Krul, Janmaat, Haidara, Dummett, Perez, Sissoko, Cisse Dislike: Gouffran, Obertan, Williamson Meh: The rest

Can't risk your PL place by being in Europe man. Look at Hull, they'd be looking at going down if they hadn't have fucked it off asap. Plus fans of teams much prefer to see an extra £3m from finishing a couple of positions higher up than going to watch their team in Europe and potentially winning a cup. Fans hate the latter, it's a horrible chore. And finally, if we tried to hard in the EL it'd get boring for Europe with us dominating everything so it's nice of the English teams to step aside and let Europe have the EL to keep them thinking they're important. Disco is definitely the funniest poster on here

Not sure Neymar will get one. Messi will get another 3 or 4 and then there will be a new guy in the world. Imagine if Messi ended with like 8 Ballon D'or's Its definitely possible tbf

Don't think there will be anyone as good as either for a while. Neymar will probably win one or two ballon d'ors