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Red card bullshit aside we’ve been extremely poor, our play had been without any thought whatsoever. they are playing 3 at the back, just overload the flanks and profit.

Pawson has been rank from the kick off btw small one is about 4 fouls one being a body check without punishment.

Wasn’t a head but, it was one of those fact we put our heads together we see every week, Diaz hadjust rinsed it though.

Where is big jammy? I hope he socks that cheating cunt diaz absolutely absurd

what a joke this league is.

Realistically we need to ship him out, he’s probably fourth choice at this stage.

FFP creates nothing clubs like Fulham.

Yeah, I hear you about not worrying about this for now. in terms of punishments, I just don’t see them diverging from the current punishments. We’ve seen the league have multiple opportunities to soften the rules but all of them get voted down (see villas proposal for larger losses). anyways as you’ve said let’s see how it goes.

For me no, it isn’t subjective your being mugged off on public. Ultimately the leaks are coming from either them or us, the moment this leaks and the Parish is going on tv and giving interviews you might want to consider if it’s time to walk away. Now we are in a position whereby we don’t have the player and if we want the player we are paying an inflated fee in a deflating market.

We are being made to look like mugs to be frank, walk away. The only problem now is the world thinks you have 65m to spend on mid table defenders. this doesn’t reflect well on Eales and Mitchell.

Indeed we don’t know, but ultimately being compelled to sell would be selling from a position of weakness and that’s something we should seek to advise. Imagine letting Gordon go for 30m + Gomez that would have been an unmitigated disaster and a great demonstration as to why we have to cut out cloth. Basically we probably do have to player trade but we should be doing it from a position of strength and not because our backs are to wall with vultures circling

@HayDen Traces That’s not quite correct, we have quite a clear idea of FFP picture as we had a 60m + hole to file by July 1st. Ultimately revenue forecasts aren’t particularly relevant as what matters is actuals. I understand the points your making about trust but it isn’t a case of trust or not trusting, it’s a case of having a grasp of the finances and how they will impact us in future. I estimate the deal for Guehi will cost us about 20m per year on accounting basis, that sum has to be covered by revenue. I think it’s important to be clear here, I think he’s a great player and will be great for us, I do question weather the deal makes sense financially though.

Absolutely yes, it will be more acute for us though as our amortisation compared to our Revenue is quite high.

Chelsea are able to offset such sales by selling academy players something they’ve been doing annually for years, also the baseline revenue they have is double ours. Unfortunately the dogshit rules makes us and them hard to compare.

The price is only relevant because of FFP, which is obviously a concern which has been brought into focus recently. Your post is one of those popular ones which ring a bit hollow to be honest, more than happy to discuss the psr aspect though in the relevant thread if you want to post there.

I’m keeping my FFP/PSR posts to that thread but I will say that we don’t have the revenue to tank 100m+ net spend summers at this point.

Re squad cost. I must admit, I haven’t read the detailed proposal as it’s not out yet and will be far too boring so if anyone else has and can correct me please do it’s most welcome. With this kind of system we will face a couple of immediate and obvious issues. 1; deficits. As the rules are now you essentially have 3 years to balance the books due to it being a rolling 3 year period. As far as I’m aware this won’t be the case with squad cost and it will be a relatively simple did you comply with the ratio yes or no. The problem with this is if you say a 60m deficit one year and you sell a player for 50m and let’s say his salary is 10m then yes you’ve complied for that year. The issue comes in the next year whereby your still 50m over (it would be less as your amortisation for the player would also be removed) but I hope it illustrates the point. 2; owner capital. the current rules allow for a certain amount of losses to be covered by owner investment, this is obviously something our owners have been doing, if this isn’t included this is yet another hit we will take in real terms.

A bit confused, has anyone said he won’t be a good signing? If yes can you please share the posts? I think the concerns are relating to the price and affordability when it comes to compliance with the rules.

The subject has obviously become extremely unpopular generally, I know myself and some others tend to bang on about it which often doesn’t help people who feel that way. That’s the idea, at least from my point of view just to raise awareness about the artificial constraints we are under and try to predict potential ways out of it.

Aye sorry about that. I’m sure all of the people contributing to this thread hate that the thread is needed.

Aye totally understand how you feel mate, I absolutely despise how we’ve been conspired against and the fact its gone totally unchecked as well.

Naaa, I don’t think it’s that simple mind. Let’s not forget how much people lost it at selling Minteh. I know it’s depressing but personally I can’t help but consider all angles when it comes to these things.

Yea we have in the past, not this summer mind. Maybe he was on the Tonali list but Chelsea always asked for crazy money.

As per my post earlier and with the caveats of the numbers I used are the clubs figures from 22-23 if we close Guehi and everything else being the same, our squad cost deficit would be 60m. I don’t see how that could be bridged by Commercial revenue or TV money tbh. Can we bridge that without selling a purple?

They have to try and maximise the sale mind, this is the last chance and literally peak value for them. I think Guehi is very good mind, but I do question this transfer, it’s a bit like the Barnes one for me.