Ankles Bennett

Totally agree!!

But the point that is being overlooked is BeoutQ were stealing from Bein not the EPL clubs. If Bein coudn't prevent the piracy, how could they expect the EPL to do so. The only way that could be achieved would be to block Bein surely, because it was their broadcasts that were being pirated, not the EPL broadcasts. Bein arguing that the Saudis were stealing from the EPL clubs is nonsense. BeoutQ was stealing from Bein who had already paid £500m for the right to broadcast to the MENA region and that money went to the clubs via the EPL. What Bein probably meant was they would not pay £500m for the broadcasting rights in future due to the piracy, which meant the EPL clubs would get less, hence the roundabout route of arguing the Saudis were stealing from the clubs, which to me is a rather tenuous argument.

Whatever argument we rely upon in the CAT and Arbitration tribunals it must be supported by binding case law otherwise our argument will be as effective as a bucket of water full of holes.

I've thought this from the start. The Reubens will be he developers the Saudis use to develop the run down areas of the city.

But if they are separate entities the KSA has no ability to control ergo it is surely all about separating the two?

So why didn't the other member clubs object to the Glazers takeover at ManU or the Fenway group at Liverpool or Stan Kroenki at Arsenal?

Again surely this would be breeching the anti competition rules/regulations

It may be the EPL's insurers are wanting to know how much compo they might be liable for. If its a lot and I expect it will be knowing Ashley, they may advise the EPL that they will only cough up a certain percentage of the compo if they lose, and the EPL will have to find the rest, or agree to settle out of court and allow the takeover to go through.

They might be putting us in check but certainly not checkmate. We are just luring them in then just when they think they have won, it will be BOOM!!! they will find themselves in checkmate!!!

Bein are not a partner of the epl they are just a customer of the epl. If they don't want pif to have a share in nufc they can refuse to bid for tv tv rights but that's just cutting of their nose to spite their face. The epl product will be snapped up regardless!!

It's all very well the EPL arguing that as head of state MBS should be a director and as such NUFC would be owned by the KSA, but judging by the volatile nature of KSA governance MBS could easily be deposed as head of state by the King in the same way the previous royal incumbent was deposed and replaced by MBS. So MBS would no longer be a representative of the KSA state. Would the EPL then demand that his royal replacement becomes a director of NUFC! I think not unless they want to cause an international incident. It's just nonsense that MBS should be a director before the O&D test can be concluded!!!

It's paytently obvious that Ashley arguing that the failure of the EPL to approve the change in ownership has denied the fans the takeover we deserve, is simply another lever to use against the EPL. Its simply pointing out that its not just Ashley who is disappointed at the failed takeover, its the hundreds of thousands of fans, and it puts the EPL in a poor light denying us the chance of competing with the big 6!!!

I think there is more to this takeover than we realize. Ashley is adamant he will only sell to the Saudi led consortium which makes me think he has an agreement to the sell open his SD shops in the KSA in particular in that new city KSA are building where the focus is to actively promote sporting health!!!

Case-law!!!!

That presumption is enshrined in caseload in the UK.

Do we know whether MBS has been made a director of any of PIF investments. If not then its difficult to see how the EPL could argue he would be an undisclosed director of the consortium.

If they know how vocal he is why not! There is also an element of deflecting their involvement and putting the spotlight and the blame onto the big 6 in the hope they keep their jobs!

I'm wondering whether Masters and Hoffman were complicit with the big 6 in the EPL not approving our takeover, but after being screwed over by the big 6 regarding the ESL, and threatening to leave the EPL, they have decided to leak evidence to Keith of the big 6 ordering the EPL to block our takeover. That would be quite a bomb and would really show up the big 6 as self serving, greedy and arrogant!!!

So they are paying Ashley £205m for the club and also paying Ashley the £100m he is owed by the club ergo £305m buys the club and clears the £100m debt!

Just expel the big 6 and promote the top 6 in the Championship sorted.

The whole format of the Super league is clearly driven by the American owners who can't grasp the concept of relegation. When they purchase a sporting franchise they want their asset to be ring-fenced. Forming the Super league with no relegation means they are assured of obscene amounts of money with no prospect of falling off the gravy train!

Exactly and PIF could then be persuaded to match the ESL gravy train by sponsoring the EPL to the tune of £3bn.

Don't really consider him one of the WUM brigade tbh, he's just a bitter ex-player who hasn't come to terms with the fact he was a shit manager. If he had ever been considered a successful manager then his views would be of more interest, but he wasn't. He won some stuff at Liverpool on the back of the groundwork done before him, then he promptly turned that to shit. He also a trophy or two at Rangers where he spent much more than Celtic, the only other club in the league capable of winning anything. Not disputing, but he also won the League Cup at Blackburn. Yet he still went on to prove he was a useless manager with us. No idea what the circumstances were with his short term success at Blackburn, but he proved at Liverpool that winning trophies meant nothing there, they went on a downward spiral so fast the longer he stayed there. They were almost unrecognisable as a big club by the time they kicked him out. Blackburn were one day away from sacking Souness when we went in and offered compensation to take him as NUFC manager. Blackburn couldn't believe how lucky they were to get compensation when they thought they were going to have to pay up his contract when they sacked him!!

Because we haven't seen anyone better even after playing hundreds of games. Green was simply the best. He could give opposition players a 3 yard start and still beat them to a loose ball comfortably and then accelerate away. Brilliant dribbling skills a thunderbolt shot from distance and could ping a long ball pass to feet. He literally terrified defenders and his career ending injury was caused by the only way he could be stopped by fouling him!

That point has kept us out of the relegation spots Its unbelievable that Liverpool have now lost 6 home games in a row!!!!