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He's ok he will get a goal now and then. But championship is his level.

Clarify millions. I will ask you the same. Put a figure you may assume. Id be thinking 30m budget plus sales of existing players or also reduction of wage structure in loaning our own or selling, this in turn allowing in more expensive earners in on loan. We would need two big transfers, and two big loan transfers. Dont take the piss here, but if it is in anyway possible. Shaw on a loan to buy. Batshuayi on a loan. Buy and spend big on a goalkeeper. And spend big on a holding midfielder that can protect the back four and play a bit of football.

Are any among us seriously thinking Rafa is going to get absolute millions and millions to spend in January?

Thats a great thing for Guardiola to say, considering hes only managed sides with superstars and huge budgets. Is he a f***ing idiot. Most of us would probably finish somewhere near the top 4 with the sides hes managed. Guardiola had a relatively poor season last season because he didn’t have the players to fit his system and style of play. Now that he does, the results are there for everyone to see. Apply the same situation to Rafa - does he have the players he needs to fit his preferred system or style of play? Of course he doesn’t. He’s doing his best with an ill-suited group of young, inexperienced players. To expect anything other than scraping survival is too much. This is a stupid argument. The guy can spend and literally get who he likes. Its arrogant almost narcissistic for him to blurt out when he has practically never found himself managing a side that needs major surgery. Not just a little tweak.

Thats a great thing for Guardiola to say, considering hes only managed sides with superstars and huge budgets. Is he a Fucking idiot. Most of us would probably finish somewhere near the top 4 with the sides hes managed.

So they should 1 point out of last 8 games, 1 win in last 12 games 6 points out of the last 36 that is f***ing shocking. I was talking solely on tonight. But if its overall, yeah people can complain. Take yourself in the Rafa thread, stir it up. You'll get plenty of bites.??

Everyone is going mental blame here and there. We lost due to a poor poor error. Not outclassed or much in the game to be able to pin it on much more. Darlow and id dare say Rafa continuing to fiddle with the selection and set up just is not working. No individual blame really other than Darlow.

You feeling alright?

Agree with this, he's clearly a quite intelligent player. The problem is once he has the ball he's not really a threat. He's a thick cunt also.

Fucking Darlow We looked best ive seen us in ages until one error

Psg told him and Lucas they can find new clubs in January

First signing.

Still waiting for this bullshit announcement.

?Dont talk about my Spanish uncle like that!!!

Tunnel vision

Chris Wood, Jonathan Walters, Sam Vokes, Ben Mee, James Tarkovski, Charlie Taylor - the list goes on. Exactly. They are an established PL side with a solid squad, we've just come up from the Championship, spent next to nowt in the Summer and suddenly we have better players than them. Some people need to get a grip. Their side is mostly made up of championship and football league signings. More recently they got players with prem experience but nothing to shout about in Bardsley Cork and Walters. Equally they lost two huge players for them in Michael Keane and Andre Gray. They are nothing superior to us, they have just managed to make things click gritty determined and not afraid to play any sides big or small, the fact they are doing well is down to their manager and mental approach to games. Suddenly pretending to ourselves they are a team of world beaters is a bit far fetched, all This established premier league players, fair enough we spent a season out of the league when they had one extra, is it such a gap they opened in that time. Fucking hell at the start of the season if we went for Cork instead of Merino, and Walters, or Bardsley instead of other signings we would have had some moaning. Florian Lejeune Christian Atsu Jacob Murphy Javier Manquillo Mikel Merino Joselu Their big buy was Wood who was championship top scorer. We had a player who was on a similar tally carrying the same sort of goalscoring form up from the championship from the same season (Gayle). Their last season they just managed to survive with 40pts and close to the relegation. I don't beleive us and Burnley are suddenly worlds apart. We just haven't managed to get it right with our new signings. Most of our championship side or if you put out our best championship side from last season would probably perform better. I cant see much in the new signings that made any drastic improvements. Merino is a tidy player but lately this week and last week he has been responsible for two goals shipped. And his form is wank since he returned from injury. Anyways fuck it I need to get a grip I think this is a false equivalence, Burnley are a small club with limited attraction for top players. Dyche has done a great job of organising them, but in a way, his lack of funds has helped him. He's got a bunch of hard working players with solid temperament which is easily overlooked. We wouldn't want to be buying a lot of their signings if they were available at the time, and you could argue Dyche wouldn't want them either if he was at a bigger club. Do they have a much better side than us or are things just going well for them at the moment? I don't think their form is a fluke, they are a tough, well organised side. Note the emphasis on tough. they have just managed to make things click gritty determined and not afraid to play any sides big or small Pretty much said similar to that in the rant. So we agree there. The argument stems from me questioning why we cant manage this with a side I personally don't see as worlds apart from Burnley and also we have the more decorated manager. So are you saying our side is full of whimps? I might guess Rafa is to technical and precise and overlay detailed. And we carry to many thick cunts that cant manage to play and think at the same time, and of course id say many are whimps. If we are talking tough players, then I could only include Lascelles and Matt Ritchie although things may seem to not be going well for Ritchie,he does take the game seriously not afraid to shout at others who are sloppy.(but his form lately is questionable) I think we are better than what we are showing. Earlier in the season there didn't seem to be a massive issue. Like I said though he's trying stuff out and the players just dont seem to get it atm. Maybe time to revert back to what he knows best.

Chris Wood, Jonathan Walters, Sam Vokes, Ben Mee, James Tarkovski, Charlie Taylor - the list goes on. Exactly. They are an established PL side with a solid squad, we've just come up from the Championship, spent next to nowt in the Summer and suddenly we have better players than them. Some people need to get a grip. Their side is mostly made up of championship and football league signings. More recently they got players with prem experience but nothing to shout about in Bardsley Cork and Walters. Equally they lost two huge players for them in Michael Keane and Andre Gray. They are nothing superior to us, they have just managed to make things click gritty determined and not afraid to play any sides big or small, the fact they are doing well is down to their manager and mental approach to games. Suddenly pretending to ourselves they are a team of world beaters is a bit far fetched, all This established premier league players, fair enough we spent a season out of the league when they had one extra, is it such a gap they opened in that time. Fucking hell at the start of the season if we went for Cork instead of Merino, and Walters, or Bardsley instead of other signings we would have had some moaning. Florian Lejeune Christian Atsu Jacob Murphy Javier Manquillo Mikel Merino Joselu Their big buy was Wood who was championship top scorer. We had a player who was on a similar tally carrying the same sort of goalscoring form up from the championship from the same season (Gayle). Their last season they just managed to survive with 40pts and close to the relegation. I don't beleive us and Burnley are suddenly worlds apart. We just haven't managed to get it right with our new signings. Most of our championship side or if you put out our best championship side from last season would probably perform better. I cant see much in the new signings that made any drastic improvements. Merino is a tidy player but lately this week and last week he has been responsible for two goals shipped. And his form is wank since he returned from injury. Anyways fuck it I need to get a grip I think this is a false equivalence, Burnley are a small club with limited attraction for top players. Dyche has done a great job of organising them, but in a way, his lack of funds has helped him. He's got a bunch of hard working players with solid temperament which is easily overlooked. We wouldn't want to be buying a lot of their signings if they were available at the time, and you could argue Dyche wouldn't want them either if he was at a bigger club. Do they have a much better side than us or are things just going well for them at the moment?

Chris Wood, Jonathan Walters, Sam Vokes, Ben Mee, James Tarkovski, Charlie Taylor - the list goes on. Exactly. They are an established PL side with a solid squad, we've just come up from the Championship, spent next to nowt in the Summer and suddenly we have better players than them. Some people need to get a grip. Their side is mostly made up of championship and football league signings. More recently they got players with prem experience but nothing to shout about in Bardsley Cork and Walters. Equally they lost two huge players for them in Michael Keane and Andre Gray. They are nothing superior to us, they have just managed to make things click gritty determined and not afraid to play any sides big or small, the fact they are doing well is down to their manager and mental approach to games. Suddenly pretending to ourselves they are a team of world beaters is a bit far fetched, all This established premier league players, fair enough we spent a season out of the league when they had one extra, is it such a gap they opened in that time. Fucking hell at the start of the season if we went for Cork instead of Merino, and Walters, or Bardsley instead of other signings we would have had some moaning. Florian Lejeune Christian Atsu Jacob Murphy Javier Manquillo Mikel Merino Joselu Their big buy was Wood who was championship top scorer. We had a player who was on a similar tally carrying the same sort of goalscoring form up from the championship from the same season (Gayle). Their last season they just managed to survive with 40pts and close to the relegation. I don't beleive us and Burnley are suddenly worlds apart. We just haven't managed to get it right with our new signings. Most of our championship side or if you put out our best championship side from last season would probably perform better. I cant see much in the new signings that made any drastic improvements. Merino is a tidy player but lately this week and last week he has been responsible for two goals shipped. And his form is wank since he returned from injury. Anyways fuck it I need to get a grip

3 games we take early leads then seem to forget what to do. If the instructions are go get the early goal then hold the game out thats mental in the premier league with the quality you face each week. Im not sure what we are trying to do when we get ahead. Sometimes in going ahead its worse, because these lads seem afraid to keep going, push for more goals. If they have to try and remain super diciplined its too much of an ask, we would need a 2 or 3 goal lead to grab a goal and contain sides at this level. Id love to know what our strategy in games of late is supposed to achieve.

Was an attempt to see how many would select Jonjo. My pal says he would be his first pick. Personally after JL id be tempted to say Jonjo

Ok so those picking Lascelles. Who else other than him?

Out of curiosity im interested to know if you were making the team selection for match days who is the first name or first two on the sheet

The argument always seems to be Pardew,Rafa, Ashley or transfers etc etc. Burnley have a totally average squad and a far less decorated manager who is making the best of it. You can’t compare our squad with theirs FFS! They have average PL players, we have good Championship players. They also have a shitload more experience than we do, which makes a huge difference. People want to make the argument hes making the best of what shit hes got. Leaving Shelvey out in my opinion isnt making the best. Shelvey is lethargic at times but he can change a game. Burnley have a load of championship players. They just work harder and are unified. That's probably why they wouldn't play Shelvey though isn't it? He's not exactly hard working. I was referring to the whole side, not one player. All sides will have a luxury player. In our case and I mentioned my opinion Shelvey should start games. Theres many many players who perform poor and still get a pass. Merino has been fairly poor since he returned from injury. Maybe I should have said work harder for each other. No point arguing, its easy to see Rafa loves punishing certain players over others. Bringing Mitrovic on for 6 minutes Love the instant come backs, now Burnley have a mutch better squad, really? They just grind results and dont fear sides.

The argument always seems to be Pardew,Rafa, Ashley or transfers etc etc. Burnley have a totally average squad and a far less decorated manager who is making the best of it. You can’t compare our squad with theirs FFS! They have average PL players, we have good Championship players. They also have a shitload more experience than we do, which makes a huge difference. People want to make the argument hes making the best of what shit hes got. Leaving Shelvey out in my opinion isnt making the best. Shelvey is lethargic at times but he can change a game. Burnley have a load of championship players. They just work harder and are unified.