UncleBingo

I think that's been pretty obvious for a while now. Rafa knows it too but I'm sure he's staying til the end of his contract to piss them off/hoping that we get sold. The fall out when he leaves should be spectacular.

Almost certainly with a 2nd class stamp too.

Is geordiedean the utter mong who posts on RTG too?

I'm sure he'd take some joy out of selling us to a shitter owner, however it's all about what he can gain from it, so best offer wins. Unfortunately there hasn't been any serious offers to consider. Or there has been serious offers BUT he isn't really interested in selling? Closest we've come is the mess Staveley made last year, but it looked like she was just a tyre kicker with no real interest apart from looking to pick us up on the cheap. Now, i know we want him out, but he's not going to accept an offer that doesn't suit him. I wouldn't accept an offer for a possession that wouldn't suit myself either. If she was serious then they would have found an agreement, found the £50m or so to make the deal happen. They didn't and it was telling for that they tried to use a dirty trick media campaign to force his hand (which failed spectacularly) rather than come back with a better offer, something we'd expect from the current owner. IMO it would have been out of the pan and in to the fire, only with less potential financial backing. Mind, Staveley may have been hung out to dry by potential backers. Maybe at first she had a few that were worth a fortune and they liked the idea, but for whatever reason they pulled out so she tried to do it on her own. This would be why she couldn't make a second reasonable offer, if so then see the original point; not real offer was made. Staveley met Ashley’s price for the club, Ashley then went and put the price up as soon as we did, and we arn’t talking about £50m here, we are talking another £100m, another third of the price. Staveley has the money to pay that, assuming Ashley wouldn’t put the price up again. However she has plans for the club which includes about £150m of immediate investment. Around half of that would have been for players. Another half would have been for the training facilities/academy, and stadium improvements. From what I understand it wouldn’t just be training and acedemy upgrades, but a whole new training ground and academy complex in a new location. The sort of campus that Premier League clubs are building, and something that would be for every age group could use. It would also have meant that we would be able to invest a lot more into the woman’s team and included a female acedemy. All of this is what Rafa has said is essential to the club long term, and as I have said it’s what the bigger clubs in the league are doing. Staveley was nowhere near a tyre kicker, she even went out of her way to being in the Rueben brothers who own land in Newcastle that is to be developed in order to not only kick start the development of the club, but the city as a whole. Give over. This is basically what George Caulkin said, and he's seen evidence of the bids made. Ashley doesn't want to sell unless at a ridiculous price - hence he put the price up to £400m. Exactly this. The lad I know in the Middle East spoke to Staveley, knew the people involved and that they'd verbally agreed to the deal. Ashley changed his mind out of the blue after a boozy lunch meeting, and released the 'time waster' stuff through Bishop/The Sun. Anybody who believes the Ashley side of this story, is quite frankly, a fucking idiot.

I can see Lascelles being tempted to a move to a CL team, but Leicester? Nah, not for me.

Looking at the videos, the comparisons with Bellamy look way off, he does look more of a nippy striker around the box like Okazaki. Racist.

It is very cathartic I must say.

Stick the figures up over Ashley's entire ownership, as the whole net spend is skewed by McClaren's spunkage.

Don't act like you can resist some newsnow or newcastle-online updates when you are on holiday Must............resist.......

Both disgusting and depressing in equal measures....luckily I'm away on Thursday for 2.5 weeks, so I can avoid this utter shitshow.

Very much this. Social media is a very powerful tool nowadays, constantly hassling/belittling/trolling them online is a f***ing excellent tactic in my opinion. Raise money and get the Russians/Chinese spammers involved should be the next course of action imho.

Takes one person to be found out (inevitable) and it'll spread round the stewards and everyone will be searched more, though Do stewards have the right to take a piece of paper off you?

This.

So what are you doing to force Ashley out exactly?

A bit route one but a really militant and persistent social media campaign against SD is a good place to start. Any hackers out there?

Stop referring to our fans as mugs, and making judgement on people's lives, as you're coming across as a right patronising c***. You clearly jumped on board during the Keegan glory years, and hopped off when we weren't as good. For some, being a football supporter is following your team through thick and thin.....it's very hard to walk away. I managed it for 18 months but started going again as I missed it, and more importantly, my son wanted to go......I wasn't going to deny him that chance, or see him grow up supporting a Man City/Chelsea or whatever. You've done the same there no? either way what you do is totally up to you but you're making it seem like if you don't go to home game its not following your team through thick and thin? that's not how it is, end of the day the stadium is in the city centre, easily accessible its not difficult to go to games, its harder to not go really. People can still be die hard supporters and not go to games, I don't like that people equate the two things. I went to my first game when I was 5, even went on away trips with my older brother when I was very young, but i couldn't go to home games because I lived away. I've literally wanted a season ticket my entire life but I just can't under ashley, that doesn't make me any less of a fan. He's not really suggesting that tbf, that not going to games doesn't make you a huge NUFC fan. HTT is talking a load of w*** and enormously generalising imo but that's his opinion and he's entitled to it. UB is just saying it's hard for those going to games to just stop on a whim, not that HTT can't have opinions for whatever reason. That's what I got from it anyway. It is hard I agree and I should know as I refuse to go but I won’t let that fat c*** take the p*ss out of me one more day and won’t be back until he has gone which I have no doubt will be years. You say he didn’t mean it like that then why mention thick and thin and Keegan glory boy then. This forum totally illustrates the divide between the support in general about what the support should be doing to put intense pressure on the utter cretin of a owner. West Ham fans although maybe a tad too much showed the type of action which should be taken. Won’t happen here though. Saw the Keegan jibe as a response to calling everyone in the ground on a match day mugs who deserve Pardew tbf. See my post above about lack of unity. It was, I shouldn't have bitten but it gets right on my tits.

Stop referring to our fans as mugs, and making judgement on people's lives, as you're coming across as a right patronising c***. You clearly jumped on board during the Keegan glory years, and hopped off when we weren't as good. For some, being a football supporter is following your team through thick and thin.....it's very hard to walk away. I managed it for 18 months but started going again as I missed it, and more importantly, my son wanted to go......I wasn't going to deny him that chance, or see him grow up supporting a Man City/Chelsea or whatever. You've done the same there no? either way what you do is totally up to you but you're making it seem like if you don't go to home game its not following your team through thick and thin? that's not how it is, end of the day the stadium is in the city centre, easily accessible its not difficult to go to games, its harder to not go really. People can still be die hard supporters and not go to games, I don't like that people equate the two things. I went to my first game when I was 5, even went on away trips with my older brother when I was very young, but i couldn't go to home games because I lived away. I've literally wanted a season ticket my entire life but I just can't under ashley, that doesn't make me any less of a fan. He's not really suggesting that tbf, that not going to games doesn't make you a huge NUFC fan. HTT is talking a load of w*** and enormously generalising imo but that's his opinion and he's entitled to it. UB is just saying it's hard for those going to games to just stop on a whim, not that HTT can't have opinions for whatever reason. That's what I got from it anyway. It is hard I agree and I should know as I refuse to go but I won’t let that fat c*** take the p*ss out of me one more day and won’t be back until he has gone which I have no doubt will be years. You say he didn’t mean it like that then why mention thick and thin and Keegan glory boy then. This forum totally illustrates the divide between the support in general about what the support should be doing to put intense pressure on the utter cretin of a owner. West Ham fans although maybe a tad too much showed the type of action which should be taken. Won’t happen here though. What is it you're doing as a fan to put intense pressure on Ashley? Staying away is all well and good, but seats will just get bought by students and PL day trippers. To me, the AO placards and demos (ive been part of all of them) at the ground have been the best way of getting at Ashley, but I'd certainly like to see it get a bit more militant and personal.

Stop referring to our fans as mugs, and making judgement on people's lives, as you're coming across as a right patronising c***. You clearly jumped on board during the Keegan glory years, and hopped off when we weren't as good. For some, being a football supporter is following your team through thick and thin.....it's very hard to walk away. I managed it for 18 months but started going again as I missed it, and more importantly, my son wanted to go......I wasn't going to deny him that chance, or see him grow up supporting a Man City/Chelsea or whatever. It’s got f*** all to do with supporting the club through thick and thin. I’ve been going from the early 70’s, season ticket holder well over 40 years and went to the majority of away games but that fat c*** put an end to it by wilfully attempting to strangle the very life out of that club whilst ensuring that he purposely attempts to p*ss off and take the p*ss of it’s own supporters and of any manager who shows an ounce of attempt in trying to progress the club. If you want to go and get the p*ss taken out of you by going that’s your choice but to say it’s supporting the club through thick and thin by going then that is total and utter bullshit I quite clearly said some people see it as their duty to support the club through thick and thin.

Stop referring to our fans as mugs, and making judgement on people's lives, as you're coming across as a right patronising cunt. You clearly jumped on board during the Keegan glory years, and hopped off when we weren't as good. For some, being a football supporter is following your team through thick and thin.....it's very hard to walk away. I managed it for 18 months but started going again as I missed it, and more importantly, my son wanted to go......I wasn't going to deny him that chance, or see him grow up supporting a Man City/Chelsea or whatever. You've done the same there no? either way what you do is totally up to you but you're making it seem like if you don't go to home game its not following your team through thick and thin? that's not how it is, end of the day the stadium is in the city centre, easily accessible its not difficult to go to games, its harder to not go really. People can still be die hard supporters and not go to games, I don't like that people equate the two things. I went to my first game when I was 5, even went on away trips with my older brother when I was very young, but i couldn't go to home games because I lived away. I've literally wanted a season ticket my entire life but I just can't under ashley, that doesn't make me any less of a fan. It's your choice whether you go or not of course, I'm certainly not going to slag anyone off who has decided to stay away. It just annoys me see our die hard fans referred to as 'mugs' and worse by people who don't go anymore.

Stop referring to our fans as mugs, and making judgement on people's lives, as you're coming across as a right patronising cunt. You clearly jumped on board during the Keegan glory years, and hopped off when we weren't as good. For some, being a football supporter is following your team through thick and thin.....it's very hard to walk away. I managed it for 18 months but started going again as I missed it, and more importantly, my son wanted to go......I wasn't going to deny him that chance, or see him grow up supporting a Man City/Chelsea or whatever. The McKeag era was shit, especially watching three of the best English players of a generation move on due to lack of ambition. Boycotts were attempted back then with little success (I watched a rerun of Hillsbrough 74 in the New Cannon in Low Fell when we played Leeds for example), what worked was people going to the ground, and protesting in and out of it every week. I agree people need to stop buying stuff at SJP and certainly avoid SD at all costs, but protests inside and outside the ground are the way forward imho, along with campaigns on social media.....maybe get the Russians on board?

Keegan bandwagon jumper alert.

this is exactly the type of thing this new group should be pushing imo....people will think they can't cancel their DD but they need telling they can the moment the window slams shut and we've no players Right, that's me in.

Renewed my season ticket, but the first DD payment doesn't come out til the 1st August. Where would I stand legally if I cancelled the DD and told the ticket office I want to cancel my ST?

10k is the going rate to hire a Hit Man or so I'm told. How much to hire Her?

i find this a strange criticism myself unless there's more detail i'm unaware of, at the time he bought the club ashley was a very successful but reclusive billionaire with the money to buy and run a football club don't know how anyone could predict how things have gone personally Wasn't it also the case that Hall felt he'd took the club as far as he could, and that it would take someone a lot richer to take it to the next level? I don't think Shepherd's mis-management helped, it got to the stage we were getting in a bad way IIRC, by the end I think they just wanted to cut and run and let someone else deal with it. possibly yeah, i'm just intrigued by the idea that hall should have identified ashley as a complete c*** at that point in time when no one even knew who he was... i mean if one of the richest men in the country came in to buy your club and one of his stated aims was to use it to help market his business it's a reasonable assumption he would do more or less the absolute opposite of what ashley has done Hall didn't give a flying f*** about the good of the club. He was entrusted with it for buttons then refused to put a penny of his own money into it (so much so that his wife did to keep Keegan) and allowed it to be used as a cash cow, paying his family millions in dividends, even when we were in the red. I don't believe that he would've considered the good of the club for a second, just the good of his wallet. Wrong on so many levels. SJH never wanted to own NUFC, but wanted to help save it from the likes of McKeag and did offer it back to fans. He put his own money in buying shares, millions. Anyway it wasn’t his money the club needed, it was his vision, his ambition, his business acumen. He never hid from the fact that he was a businessman and saw NUFC as something he could profit from, hence why he floated the club. But he only took out what the club was worth after he had transformed it because it wasnt even worth the money he paid towards the shares back then. And he cared about the club. It wasn’t a cash cow to him, it was a cash cow to his son and the Shepherds and his mistake was handing his son such a big stake. He sold to MA because he was in no position to run the club, he was basically a silent partner and why shouldn’t he sell his shares? The alternative was to become another McKeag and keep it in the family for generations. FS couldn't afford to buy him out. I’d have sold if I wasn’t in any way able to run the club. SJH never took a penny out, the money he made from the club came from MA’s bank account not the club’s. His son and the Shepherds on the other hand... SJH along with KK were the only f***ers who believed in NUFC and did their damn best to turn us into the biggest club in the world. When we were going for the title with Man Utd they only turned over more than us because of the CL and extra seats, we were turning over more than any other club and not even the likes of Barcelona or Real Madrid could beat us in the transfer market or for wages. Floating was the wrong choice in retrospect, but it was a logical next step for a top PL brand at that time. I won’t hold Ashley against SJH, again we all thought we had landed on our feet when this billionaire sports retailer rocked up. I guarantee SJH has lots of regret towards the end of his time as chairman/owner/shareholder of NUFC. I don’t know how anyone can slag the man or hold him as some kind of c***. Remove SJH from our history and we wouldn’t have had the 20 years prior to Ashley or even exist because there was no f***er else who had the money and balls to take on mother McKeags and certainly not the savvy vision SJH had for the club. Hear hear. I've read some ridiculous rewriting of history with regards SJH over the years, mainly due to the fact he was a Tory.