Bimpy474

Gameweek 8 Villa 1 v 1 Southampton Forest 2 v 1 Fulham Wolves 1 v 2 Man City Newcastle 3 v 0 Bournemouth Spurs 2 v 0 Leicester Brentford 2 v 2 Arsenal Everton 1 v 1 West Ham

Having one of those good days, still have two others going very well

I think at £10m, he could up being the signing of the season for all clubs.

Yeah i get what you mean, how can anyone be that daft though. There's so much more to it than the stats, he really is a simpleton.

@TRonErm, a clue is about 2 inches above of what you wrote.

Fulham 1-2 Chelsea Bournemouth 1-3 Brighton Leicester 1-1 Villa Liverpool 2-0 Wolves Southampton 2-1 Brentford Man City 2-1 Spurs Arsenal 2-0 Everton West Ham 1-1 Newcastle Palace 0-1 Man United Leeds 1-1 Forest

Yeah i get what you mean, you would have thought the training would help and i guess that also a big part of the problem. I've always been taught the on field ref has the final say, you can overrule your assistants if you think you saw something correctly and they didn't. If they're going down the route of meek officials, who only act after consulting a VAR official, then what's the point, just let the VAR ref, do it from a studio.

Wut No way.

Great ball and great finish, 2-2

Leicester concede so easily, going to be a long season for them at this rate.

It would get replicated at the lower levels, where it's bad enough as it is. It's a completely wrong thing to even think of, mind you as a fan like you, i can see why the frustration of decisions would make you think it.

I used referee at the lowest standard, and the abuse at that level is horrendous, to the point you think you could get physically attacked for absolutely anything. It can be terrifying unless you have a certain personality. As i played as well, i can see the side of players where the refs can just be dismissive, and as i experienced can be above the law (football law) and just make shite up if you dispute something to a county FA, refs are just protected without question, well that was my experience. Going on to referee made me realise what a prat I'd been at times to refs, you get one look and make an honest decision, but you will get things wrong. Then the abuse and vitriol and intimidation comes your way, why anyone would want to do it is beyond me. Now i know that makes me a hypocrite by slating off the poor standards at the top, yet we have experienced professional refs getting decisions so wrong, even with the help of multiple views. But i can see both sides, we won't get better refs if we don't sort out the abuse and difficulty at grass roots level, as that's where most refs start. God knows how you fix it all, it's one big mess.

Same for me, really like Leffe as a poster.

No i'm getting annoyed, no more than say you do on the injustice of the decisions going against us. Overall it's frustrating, replays that assist the on field ref should be a really good thing, not the shambles we're seeing. As others have said as well, the fault lies with Mike Riley and PGMOL, they're responsible for the implementation of VAR and the training of our refs. And for me that's where the biggest problem lies.

Yeah i know, but sometimes people describe it like it's a being of its own. As if they don't realise it's a ref doing the duty.

Well to be fair they didn't care what happened to the rest of us, they wanted it all.

You can see why we pushed so hard to get him, just a pure class footballer.

Like I said before, we shouldn't use the term VAR, we should use the name of the ref who is looking at the video replays, as that's the issue. You can call the system whatever you want, end of the day its a man, either a current or ex on field retired ref who makes the decisions. My point is you blame the man, not the system.

There's always been a bias toward the bigger so called clubs from refs. Now we all thought VAR would redress that issue, when in fact the same bias is continuing. My hatred of you 6 isn't VAR related really, I just wanted to shoehorn it in somehow.

It's how it's used mate, end of the day a ref is judging the replays which is referred to as VAR. The system is not the issue, the refs are. They could call it anything they like, until our refs are better and the bias toward the scumbag 6 is removed, it'll continue to be flawed.

I feckin hate your club and the other 5 with a passion that will never end. I know it wasn't the fans of the 6 and most disagreed with it, but you 6 clubs wanted all the cake and to destroy our league out of greed, and even now still want to dictate what the other clubs do and what sponsorship they can have. I want your club and the other scummy 5 to burn to the ground and be fuck up beyond all recognition.

I would agree with you, but then we would both be wrong.

You may be in minority with that view.