Rod

We will like. Fucking no chance Rod mate. Fucking nailed on judge.

She sounds like she's back tracking & lashing out. I think the exact opposite. Strange that eh judge?

We will like.

Well I was curious about this line. "The Premier League has already offered independent arbitration, rejected by the bidders, who say their ownership structure - with the PIF an independent investment vehicle as set out in its charter - and business plan were clear. " Have not seen any mention of that before, and why reject a potential arbitration that might actually agree with them? As far as I can tell the Crown Prince WhateverHisNameIs appointed the director of PIF to run the investment vehicle and doesn't interfere with it. By what right does the PL have to say "We don't believe you". If you go back to that interview with the PIF director, it was posted, he describes how he was appointed and what his remit was for the PIF. He seems to be doing a brilliant job. NUFC would be a tiny slice of PIF's investment portfolio, why the fuck would the Crown Prince be interfering at all. The arbitration quote also caught my eye. We have them ( The EPL) bang to rights!

Yeah, I think the PL have got themselves into a real shitshow and wish the whole thing just didn't exist. They've obviously got themselves a cartel of powerful opponents to the takeover (the chosen few PL clubs, Qatar via BeIN Sports, others with an axe to grind) who they really don't want to put offside - if these interests weren't applying extraordinary pressure on the PL then the takeover would likely have been approved within the aforementioned 4-5 weeks. I doubt if they are worried about getting sued by those who want to stop the takeover, but they obviously risk commercial arrangements (with the likes of BeIN) and risk a potential revolt from those leading PL clubs (who they may fear leaving the PL to form a new European super league). But, whilst the PL may wish to bow to those powerful interests (forcing the takeover to not happen) they don't have a clear (or even token) set of criteria against which they can justify stopping the takeover, meaning if they do they know they will get sued into oblivion. They can't afford to define a specific reason for rejecting the takeover because that will give Ashley and the buying consortium a tangible thing to sue the PL over (because it will very obviously be a justification that won't stand up in court). This leaves the PL under the impression they are in an impossible position - but, the problem they have not reconciled themselves to is that, laws (in this case mostly commercial law, but likely some regulatory laws too) trump other commercial risks. If/when the PL are forced to say "rejected" and forced to give a reason then they risk a substantial lawsuit from Mike Ashley, the buying consortium, and potentially other interests who stand to lose from the takeover not happening (e.g. Newcastle City Council, Reubens, others). Even if the PL decides that the potential lawsuit is going to cost them less than the cost of pissing off BeIN Sport (Qatar) or the preferred clubs, the lawsuit could still cause the PL to go bankrupt because the amounts of money are so huge. The PL have only got themselves to blame for this - it is through their negligence and incompetence that they did not anticipate the consequences of the ODT (as it is written) and did not properly manage the process from the beginning. They also failed to hold other clubs, those that were purchased prior to the current ODT, to the same standard - and courts take a dim view of hypocrisy. They stuck their heads in the sand, probably assuming that fat-Mike would screw up the deal and they wouldn't have to worry about it, and know they're royally fecked! In reality what they need to do is accept their medicine, approve the takeover, and then pucker up to kiss the arses of BeIN and the lead PL clubs for the next decade by way of apology. That is the only way they save this - otherwise they may cause the whole Premier League to collapse. They've screwed this up so bad they may cause the league itself to cease to exist (due to lawsuits, loss of lead clubs, loss of sponsors, loss of broadcasting revenues). One of the few decent posts on here. Well said Sir ..... or Madam.

It won't make a difference to the PL's stance as admirable as it has been from everyone. They've already made their mind up and it's not going to change. So what if Newcastle and its football fans are unhappy? As long as Liverpool, spurs, qataris and the rest don't get upset. It's going to be ignored until it goes away and the likes of sky etc will allow it to disappear. But they haven't made their minds up. This is the whole point of this process that NUST have instigated.

Samptime and Judgeholden, now do you believe me? We can do it, just without you two arseholes.

Well done to everyone involved with this. It gives so much hope to people when realistically the fans were on the floor. Great effort by all.

VAR is great. Stop this negativity with VAR. The bloke (referee) back in the office is the one you should have a go at.

VAR is brilliant. It's not being used correctly by the idiots in charge. Nah, it has to go. Nowt wrong with VAR, loads wrong with the officials in charge.

VAR is brilliant. It's not being used correctly by the idiots in charge.

Have absolutely no doubt we'll survive with room to spare again. People have been going on like the team's pool of talent isn't lower mid-table standard at the very lowest. I'm not sure which football team you have been watching this season but Newcastle have been arguably the worst. I am including the three relegation teams too. I'm staggered we are still in this league. We have been both dreadful and extremely lucky.

Turns out it was "sit down and shut up" then. No wonder they didn't want to release the response at the time. Releasing it had nothing to do with the content of the response as we've explained countless times. We never hid the fact is was a basic acknowledgment. Absolute rubbish this mind, there's nothing in that letter or response that warranted withholding it from their members once the reply was received. As it has been since they first started out NUST is all about creating a perception that they are in the loop and involved way more than they really are, no better example than this one. I was a member early on but quickly realised my mistake. They've written a letter to the Premier League been ignored / got a holding letter back, and then announced that "they've had a response". Absolute jokers. This couldn't be further from the truth. What did it achieve? What came of the instruction of your legal counsel ultimately? Are you a Member of the Trust? If you are (I don't think you are) and have concerns in this regard you should email [email protected]. Question dodged I've already explained I used to be a member but packed it in. If you took the time to read what I posted rather than just react blindly to criticism you'd have seen that. At the end of the day the Trust went to all of the trouble of instructing legal counsel and got the exact same stock answer as everyone else, which was entirely predictable. If you were a Member you would have received a detailed explanation as to why the letters were not released until now. The overwhelming majority understand that position. You're stilll avoiding the question, so we're done here now. Don’t know how you deal so civilly with people determined to be c***s. He's pretty much refused to answer my questions, not sure how that's "dealing" with anything. As for calling me that if I did it to Greg I assume I'd get a ban. No doubt you'll be OK though. It's been explained - but NUST only represents its members. You aren't a member. How many members do you have now? What is your point though?

Very much this. It also pisses me off that he has the gall to play the Geordie card nowadays, when he's turned his Minecraft nose up at us plenty of times in the past. He's an utter fraud in my opinion, who couldn't get out of Newcastle quick enough in the very unlikely scenario of him being offered the Man Utd job. A mate of mine knows one of the first team squad very well, and the feeling in the dressing room is that although he's one of the lads, they view him as a bit of a joke, especially when it comes to training and tactics. Which will come as no surprise to anyone. I can 100% believe this!

Why do you feel the constant need to defend him on it though? Because the hatred on here is too much. Shithouse of a human being is a horrible insult. And we're talking about a football manager. Not liking him and wanting him gone is normal. Calling him a shithouse of a human being is not. Samp, have you got any statistics to back up your argument? Thought not. Answer my question. Surprise surprise! Samp is the minority AGAIN. Do you ever question yourself why that is? What question? Is every player or manager who fucks over a club like Bruce did with Sheff Wed (and there are plenty) a shitehouse of a human being? I have NEVER called Bruce a Shitehouse . I do call him out as a very poor manager with very little or no tactical skills. The stats are there Samp. It's been an awful season.

Why do you feel the constant need to defend him on it though? Because the hatred on here is too much. Shithouse of a human being is a horrible insult. And we're talking about a football manager. Not liking him and wanting him gone is normal. Calling him a shithouse of a human being is not. Samp, have you got any statistics to back up your argument? Thought not. Answer my question. Surprise surprise! Samp is the minority AGAIN. Do you ever question yourself why that is? What question?

Why do you feel the constant need to defend him on it though? Because the hatred on here is too much. Shithouse of a human being is a horrible insult. And we're talking about a football manager. Not liking him and wanting him gone is normal. Calling him a shithouse of a human being is not. Samp, have you got any statistics to back up your argument? Thought not.

Best to just totally obliterate this season from your minds. The only good thing to come out of this disaster of a season was ramming the gloating Steve Bruce fans stats down their throats. The disgraceful comparisons to that great manager Rafa Benitez was absolutely sickening. You all know who you are!

This is actually spot on. The Bruce sympathisers simply cannot or will not accept that. We played to an organised system under Rafa and if it needed tweaking during the game his tactical skills shone through. Now I do realise that it wasn't pretty all the time. This team under Bruce are completely rudderless.

I was exactly the same. I had no opinion of him whatsoever. I watched him go from sometimes average clubs to bad clubs where nothing seemed to happen. There was certainly no progress at his previous clubs. However watching him coach our team and listening to his inane ramblings I have come to loath the man immensely.

And it's this crap and what some fans have become accustomed to that boils my piss!

Danny Rose has to be the biggest "fanny" in modern football, especially as a hardened defender. Total soft shite!

Good half my ass. Not sure if serious though? I can assure you there was absolutely nothing serious in that post. Although the bit about shooting is true though. If we have more shots on target that don't get blocked and the keeper can't save them then we'd be scoring goals. Amazing. The judge has a strange sense of humour. He's alright really.

Aye, at Gateshead perhaps. Even then I'm not sure he's up for that.

I hope samptime is reading this, he loves his stats. Doing an ok job though Bruce is.