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Tbf it's not implausible that a conversation took place about morality, blood money etc etc and a legitimate question was asked about "how much would it take?" The real made up shit, for the majority On The Buses, is their new found empathy for human rights, woman and LGBT+
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Newcastle United vs. Chelsea - 12/11/22 @ 5:30pm (Sky Sports)
Groundhog63 replied to HaydnNUFC's topic in Football
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Tbf, who hasn't
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Outside The Strawberry, across the road from the Gallowgate End, a banner stretched above the entrance. It was January 2013, the month when Newcastle United signed Mathieu Debuchy, Moussa Sissoko, Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa, Yoan Gouffran and Massadio Haidara, taking their collection of French players into double figures. For a little while, one of the cityâs most iconic watering holes renamed itself âLa Fraiseâ. It was âall tongue in cheek,â the pubâs co-owners said, an attempt to âwelcome the new contingent and make them feel at homeâ. Inside, not much had changed â still full of team photos and Newcastle memorabilia â but these were early days. âWe could start serving more French beers â weâve got Kronenbourg at the moment â and I suppose maybe even French food. Watch this space,â they said. The following month, the club announced their home game against Southampton would be âFrench Dayâ, âreminding fans to don their berets and stripy t-shirts (âŚ) as we celebrate the clubâs Gallic contingent.â There were can-can dancers in the stadium, supporters had tricolores painted on their faces and carried strings of garlic around their necks. La Marseillaise was played before kick-off. The Blaydon Races was sung in French. This was probably the closest Newcastle came to an identity under Mike Ashley. Thanks to the contacts of Graham Carr, their then-chief scout, there was a belief within the club that they had cornered the market for talented young French footballers; Hatem Ben Arfa, Sissoko and Yohan Cabaye were bought cheaply, under the noses of richer clubs. Southampton were beaten 4-2; Sissoko and Cabaye scored. As with everything under Ashley, any sense of strategy swiftly melted away, if it was ever there in the first place. After finishing fifth the season before â a high watermark â Newcastle made only one senior signing and left themselves woefully under-equipped for the Europa League. Those January transfers were a late attempt at correction, but far too late to escape pressure, a familiar gamble which ended in familiar disillusion. In April 2013, Newcastle were beaten 3-0 by Sunderland at St Jamesâ. As Alan Pardew said later, they were âlimping over the lineâ. They finished 16th that season. Decline would become entrenched. Three years later, they were relegated. Ashleyâs âFrench Revolutionâ brought change and carnage but not a lot in the way of lingering philosophy. Ultimately, it did not stand for very much. Why bring this up now? Another match against Southampton, another glimmer of progress at Newcastle, and a different sense of identity. At St Maryâs last weekend, Eddie Howe picked seven English players in his starting line-up for the fourth time this season. It was more than any other in the Premier League for that round of fixtures, and it was the second successive Newcastle game watched by Gareth Southgate, the England manager. Southgateâs squad for the World Cup starting in Qatar just over a week from now includes three Newcastle players: Kieran Trippier, Callum Wilson and, fresh from his three brilliant saves in their Carabao Cup last-32 penalty shootout victory over Crystal Palace, Nick Pope. This equals the clubâs record for most England players at a major tournament, which stretches back to the 1998 World Cup, when Glenn Hoddle picked Alan Shearer, Rob Lee and David Batty. In Englandâs last six tournament appearances, there has been no representative from Newcastle, which is not too surprising when you consider the mediocrity which became institutionalised under Ashley, as well as his determination to find value in the market, where English players traditionally came with a premium. The last Newcastle player to represent England in a World Cup was Michael Owen at Germany 2006. Newcastle's major tournament players COMPETITION HOST NEWCASTLE PLAYERS IN ENGLAND SQUAD World Cup 2022 Qatar 3 (Kieran Trippier, Nick Pope, Callum Wilson) Euro 2020 Europe-wide 0 Euro 2016 France 0 World Cup 2014 Brazil 0 Euro 2012 Poland/Ukraine 0 World Cup 2010 South Africa 0 World Cup 2006 Germany 1 (Michael Owen) Euro 2004 Portugal 1 (Kieron Dyer) World Cup 2002 Japan/South Korea 1 (Kieron Dyer) Euro 2000 Netherlands/Belgium 1 (Alan Shearer) World Cup 1998 France 3 (Alan Shearer, Rob Lee, David Batty) Euro 1996 England 2 (Les Ferdinand, Steve Howey) Euro 1992 Sweden 0 World Cup 1990 Italy 0 It feels like an under-reported aspect of Newcastleâs existence post-takeover â in fairness, there have been a lot of other things to write about â but for all the Brazilian flair of Bruno Guimaraes and the goals of Miguel Almiron, there is a core of English players to what is currently the Premier Leagueâs third-best team. As the statistics show, this is definitely rare in historical terms and it is definitely a thing. But what, if anything, does it mean for Newcastle, and is it a deliberate policy? And, on the quiet, has this rapidly evolving club suddenly become Englandâs biggest breeding ground? The Southampton match was not an anomaly. Newcastleâs XIs this season have featured an average of six Englishmen per match and Howe is yet to name a starting line-up with fewer than five of them across their 14 league fixtures. On the south coast last Sunday, Pope, Trippier, Dan Burn, Joe Willock, Sean Longstaff, Jacob Murphy and Wilson were all in the side, while Jonjo Shelvey came on as a substitute. Jamaal Lascelles, the club captain, and Matt Targett have also started five times collectively. Last season, 42.2 per cent of top-flight playing time at Newcastle was given to English players. In 2022-23 so far, that has risen to 53.7 per cent (7,445 of the 13,860 combined minutes played). Newcastle are very much bucking the Premier League trend, too, with The Times claiming that the number of England-qualified players starting top-flight matches has dropped to 33 per cent, from 38 per cent last season. In the most recent round of fixtures, only Newcastle (seven starters) and Everton (six) fielded XIs of which at least 50 per cent were Englishmen. English players used last weekend CLUB STARTERS SUBSTITUTES USED Newcastle United 7 1 Everton 6 2 Bournemouth 5 3 Nottingham Forest 4 3 Aston Villa 4 2 Leicester City 4 2 Brighton & Hove Albion 4 1 Chelsea 4 1 West Ham United 4 1 Brentford 4 0 Crystal Palace 4 0 Southampton 3 2 Arsenal 3 1 Tottenham Hotspur 3 0 Manchester City 2 1 Manchester United 2 0 Liverpool 1 4 Leeds United 1 3 Fulham 1 0 Wolverhampton Wanderers 1 0 At Newcastle, 55 per cent of their league starters this season have been English. Across their 14 matches, 10 Englishmen have made appearances, with all bar Shelvey featuring in at least one starting XI. They have made a combined 110 appearances (the most in the Premier League), 83 of which have been starts (also the most), and played for a collective 7,445 minutes (behind only Evertonâs 7,590 cumulative minutes). Four of Newcastleâs six most frequent starters this season are English in Pope, Trippier, Burn and Willock, while they also occupy the top six places for minutes played. The transformed Almiron and Fabian Schar are the only non-Englishmen whose names are on both lists. Of the seven Newcastle players to appear in every game, six are English â Almiron, who has started all 14 matches alongside Pope and Trippier, is the exception â with Longstaff and Murphy also being used constantly by Howe. Newcastle's England-qualified contingent PLAYER STARTS (SUB) MINUTES PLAYED Nick Pope 14 (0) 1,260 Kieran Trippier 14 (0) 1,234 Dan Burn 13 (1) 1,134 Joe Willock 12 (2) 1,030 Sean Longstaff 10 (4) 966 Callum Wilson 10 (0) 772 Jacob Murphy 5 (9) 483 Matt Targett 4 (5) 422 Jamaal Lascelles 1 (3) 107 Jonjo Shelvey 0 (3) 37 Those figures do not feature Karl Darlow, who has been injured and is first-reserve goalkeeper behind Pope when fit. Nor do they include Elliot Anderson, who has played 103 minutes over seven appearances but is still considering whether to pledge his international allegiance to Scotland or England, given he has played for both at youth level, most recently for the former. Whether by accident, design, or a combination of the two, Newcastleâs early-season Champions League push is being led by their homegrown contingent. Not everybody cares about England or international football, which is fair enough, but increased representation at the highest level, as we are duty-bound to call it, feels like an important step for Newcastle. To grow commercially, to get bigger and better, they need to sell their story, and if Trippier sets up a goal or helps keep a clean sheet in Qatar, if Wilson comes on and makes an impact, it reflects back on the club. The same applies to Guimaraes with Brazil and Schar with Switzerland. Not since the days of Kevin Keegan, when Shearer joined for a world-record fee, or when they competed in the Champions League under Sir Bobby Robson, have Newcastle felt like a global entity. âIt builds the profile of Newcastle when you have players like Trips, Bruno and Fab going to the World Cup,â Lascelles said after the Palace match. âIt just builds the profile of the club and the individuals as well. Itâs special to have those players in the team, and we saw Nick Popeâs qualities â thatâs why he should be starting for England.â âIn the next few seasons, I imagine England squads will regularly have multiple Newcastle players in,â Pope told The Athletic at the start of the season after his move from relegated Burnley. âThatâs something others will consider â theyâll see Newcastle is a pathway to the England team now. I canât imagine many other teams that an England player would rather sign for than Newcastle at the minute.â In other words, England players, or potential England players, will have no reason to look at Newcastle as a graveyard for their international ambitions. They can come to Tyneside and kick on. âWe want to develop players and progress their careers, so playing in World Cups is very, very important,â Howe said. In the past 11 months, Newcastle have signed two England internationals in Pope and Trippier, which is a stark contrast to the Ashley era. During the previous ownerâs 14 years, only four active Newcastle players played for England. The last of those to be capped, and the only one for a decade, was Andros Townsend in 2016, and he was already leaving following relegation. The others? Owen, a waning Alan Smith and a force-of-nature Andy Carroll, but even the Geordie academy product departed for Liverpool just two months after his international bow. Yet now, why shouldnât Burn, who is an integral part of the Premier Leagueâs meanest defence, not have aspirations to play for England? Why shouldnât Longstaff and Willock, playing well in a top-four side, look at Pope, Trippier and Wilson and think they wouldnât mind a bit of that, particularly when Southgate is watching on? âWe must have a few other boys knocking on the England door,â said Lascelles. âSean has been brilliant this season,â said Trippier. âI speak to him and Burny â never say never for them because weâre flying at the moment and Gareth has been watching a lot of Newcastle games. Anything can happen.â As to whether this is all part of a grand plan, the answer is slightly opaque. Back in January, with the club desperately attempting to avoid relegation, Howe was adamant that Newcastle required an immediate injection of players with Premier League experience. As well as good players, he wanted sound, solid characters who would fit into the ethos of the group they already had. Kieran Trippier, Eddie Howe Trippier is off to the World Cup as a Newcastle player â the first time thatâs been done in 16 years. That was what Trippier referenced when The Athletic asked him about Englishness and identity after the Palace game in midweek. âWhen we started making signings, itâs been about bringing in the right characters,â he said. âYou can see the steps weâve taken. Weâve got a really good culture here, but thatâs about everybody. Weâve got a really good bond. You need that, especially last season when we were fighting for our lives. Everybody has stepped up.â âIt can build a strong dressing room, having that English core,â Lascelles said. âIâve been in dressing rooms before, when I first signed here, and that wasnât there. There was no âdressing roomâ. The way weâve got things, with the leadership squad and every single one of the boys⌠itâs just great for the team and the way we play.â Right now, there is little debate. The spine of Newcastleâs side is English: Pope in goal, Trippier and Burn in defence, Longstaff and Willock in midfield and Wilson up top. âI wouldnât say it was necessarily a conscious decision to recruit English players, but Iâd like to think you need a core of British players in any squad, because weâre playing in England,â Howe said. âIâd like that.â Newcastle will look to get better, however they can, and as they adapt and move on, they will target more talent from overseas such as Guimaraes and Dutchman Sven Botman, as well as developing their own future England stars. âIâd like Geordies in the team,â Howe said. âI think itâs hugely important that we strive for that in the future consistently. But we welcome any nationality into the club. Weâre very proud to have all our players with us.â Perhaps this is merely a temporary quirk. Or perhaps it is just a small part of Newcastleâs emerging identity under Howe, that front-foot style, comfortable on the ball, relentless off it and us against them. If nothing else, it is an interesting, unusual little theme and, put together, unparalleled in the clubâs history. In 1990, when England reached a World Cup semi-final, they were managed by a Geordie in Robson and crammed with gifted, once-removed connections to Newcastle â Paul Gascoigne, Peter Beardsley, Chris Waddle. It feels different now, England players arriving at the club rather than the other way around. No need for The Strawberry to change its name and â please â no Morris Dancing at St Jamesâ Park.
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League Cup 4th Round - Newcastle Utd v AFC Bournemouth (20/12/22 @ 7.45pm)
Groundhog63 replied to 54's topic in Football
Liverpool v Man City Brighton v Man U Please -
Not watching it but stats say, by the 42nd minute, there's only been 3 shots on target ??
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Wor Flags: visit worflags.org.uk/donate to support future displays
Groundhog63 replied to wor jackie's topic in Football
Fuck that. "Hurry back" morelike -
Just watching the BT round up of the A league. Watched our kid playing against Western Sydney Wanderers featuring a certain Romain Amalfitano ?
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True Geordie's took over this, account?
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He's like Gazza in the mercurial sense. Our talisman. Luckily has more about him and better people around him. Wank penalty which I doubt he'd replicate. I'm with Rod. If we hadn't gone through we'd be raging ?
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Newcastle United 0-0 Crystal Palace (Newcastle win 3-2 on pels) - 09/11/22
Groundhog63 replied to Disco's topic in Football
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Agree on both counts. Tate's penchant for your Muslim friendly public figures like Trump jnr, Farage, Alex Jones, Joseph Watson, Tommy 5 names etc etc, doesn't strike me as conducive to his faith even if his attitude to woman does ?
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Had no idea who this Andrew Tate fella was tbf. Just googled him. Seems like an absolute cunt of a bloke if you ask me. As for TG, like most of these online content creators, his trouble is lack of editorial oversight and/or accountability to an editorial policy. They just wing it and, as they get more successful, have a risk of "blowing up" their careers. Chat shit, get banged. In his case by his sponsors.
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West Ham, 4th Feb.
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Billy Hardy in for Amnesty FC, yet?
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Name names or fuck off ????
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Said before on "Wor Flags" Jonas & Colo with a big flag of Jonas cupping his ears. "Leave no one behind"
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Fly him over and give him a Wor Flag Day.
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Howe's a bit old to be playing right back in the Prem ?
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Mrs G & I gonna grace L7 & windmill cockerrrrrkneeeeees. 1st game for years. Man City at home, Dec 27th 2017. Got beat 1-0 Took the dog out when I got back and she had an accident running around the field. Snapped her back and lost the use of her hind legs. Total freak accident ? Had to have her put to sleep at 4am. New dog, new team, new hope. RIP Bella x