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After undoing the damage Ashley has done, leaving solid foundations and selling to someone other than Ashley. A win win for sunderland somehow obviously. Plus we'd be morally sound then and they'd stop hating us.

For the record went with Ten Hag because I don't consider Rafa or Rodgers candidates.

Bruce will not know what to do with himself or how to fill the time now he's got Saturday off as well as a couple hours on Tuesday and Thursday. I guess just do what he did for 95% of the time we were paying him millions and he wasn't working.

Taylor, Sir Bobby and McLaren all slaughtered as England managers by the national media with little to no defence from the pundits. All northerners I notice.

Don't get why people are going on about 'were creating a society that etc. etc.' - its always been this way ffs. Its just now what was contained in fanzines, pubs and break-times at work/school and private discussions is now there for anybody to see if they want to. Football managers have been hated by their own fans as long as I've known - often far worse than this and almost always with less justification. How many others suckled up to a hate owner and wound the fans up from behind the safety of lockdowns? Its just utterly bizarre that Bruce released from a job he only got for a laugh to begin with, is some sort of revelation.

Yip. Decent bloke but awful manager suddenly matters when its your team (Dublin's a Man U fan)

"the Man United fans don't see Ole the bloke, they see the performances on the pitch" - Dion "Bruce's mate" Dublin hypocrites used to be better than this surely?

Preserves our 5-0 I suppose. Chelsea in 99, Liverpool now both had red-cards. Cantona should have had three red cards in that game alone. Right in thinking this, the City 1-6, the Chelsea 5-0 and our 5-0 all in October

Remember when we went there, got beat 4 and our head-coach was 'delighted' with it?

Rafa could throw them under the bus for this abuse,for even though every manager gets it, unless they flag it up for sympathy none of these bleeding hearts could care less. Not the type though. Squeeky wheel gets the grease, empty vessels make the most noise, not a self-pitying deflecting c**t etc.

Anyone watching the 24hour vigil for the sacked Mick McCarthy, i can't find it?

Aye. Wanted to go down under Ashley because promotion/relegation winning'/losing didn't matter anymore and I wanted it to matter by forcing him out. Now that's happened it does and very much don't want to go down, like it should be. Even if we'd be okay its a stain on the club I don't want.

Be a lot easier not to say infinitely fairer to just allow the shirt sponsor, but noooo, the hateful 18 had to be c**ts about it.

Martinez is Jennifer Lawrence to me, not bad, but don't get the fuss at all and given the choice not sure at all that I would. Based on the Hunger Games/Everton. Sure the blonde hair and easy international games enhance them but that's not real. I think we can agree on who would be Susan Boyle in this analogy though, except she has a good personality.

Its good that they say they're going to consult - I guess, its just reasonable but after 14years of the opposite it feels good Much rather it just be the already long since besmerched shirts and shirt sleeves. XYZ St James Park for a very good shot at glory is at least worth consideration. Remember how gleeful some organisations and people were to jump on calling it that? Ironically they'd probably refer to it as SJP even if we got sponsored now out of the same spite, thus giving us less to lose.

Getting excited because the bloke referred to it as "we". He also referred to PIF as "they" but they never mentioned or showed that bit in the interests of inbalance

He's arguably bottom of the list of important managers in my time supporting Newcastle and only even relevant at all because he went above and beyond the call of duty at being unlikable and poor at his job. And were just a small club everyone keeps saying. Don't think he'd be far off the bottom of Villa's list either. Souness got to a cup semi-final, Gullit a final, Dalglish a final (First in decades)+ Barcelona, Pardew 5th, Hughton inherited a cluster f*ck of a situation and could hardly have done better Roeder took over Souness mess and went from 6th bottom to 7th top in a couple months, tonking the mackems on way and presiding over Shearer's farewell McFaul was a total club legend before being a manager Ossie arguably set up the style Keegan built on and blooded youngsters many of whom went on the hold their own at the highest level for us Benitez relegation fodder promoted and established in midtable on nothing and gave the city/club pride and hope again Apart from the caretakers there's only Jim Smith as unimportant to NUFC's recent history as Bruce but he was an infinitely better man and manager in my book.

Neil Lennon was on about it last night. A bloke who had actual death threats and a bullet sent to him thought getting called a cabbage head (not even a phrase we coined - national media started the manager for vegetable racket and Martin Samuel was in on it) was out of order. Another one off the top of my head is Boro fans hated McLaren (there most succesful manager by far) - he got so much sympathy for that the national media that they made him a laughing stock.

Scored for Inter here in the Champions League. Charnley's shocked to learn you can look further afield than Felling and beyond his f*cking pitiful roladex

Madness. Nearly every manager and player gets stick and every set of fans has give it out. Just via this forum I've seen Mourinho (one of the greatest managers of all time) getting absued 'dinosaur' 'old man' etc by two ancient league titles (but not entitled/demanding) Spurs fans and the mackems towards Johnson this year alone. The only difference is Bruce has flagged it up and online is the new pub talk and fanzines. Its always been the case, more so with poor managers/players/owners. Its one of the reasons Brucve was so hated, whether he's throwing us under the bus for the sake of sympathy/deflecting his record (did it with Villa where the cabbage moniker was formed) or just too stupid to realise he's inviting this context-less pile in on us. I bet the sacked Charlton manager (two more wins than Bruce) has been called all sorts, who prays for him? who stands up the vicious Charlton fans?

Going to be a very interesting team selection. Actually cant wait for that alone. The Jo situation and whether, depending on how the game is going, Gayle gets a good wedge of time (30mins or so) at his former club. Given how they looked the other night, we'd do well to get a draw probably. Were gonna regret giving Bruce the fixtures he got for a good while I fear.

When we weren't a threat.

His reputation at Newcastle and Villa is dogshit His reputation at sunderland, no doubt rewritten now, was similar If Hull fans like him fine, but that reminds me of a Clint line "a man has to know his limtiations"

Anybody would think Holt was a scouser the way he throws bile around and yet completely oblivious to it gets on a moral pedestal like grease lightning.

Guy who defended and went to the boxing in Saudi but very much against a rival club indulging as he did innit?