Wolfcastle

They've looked better than I expected to boot.

Don't....no actually, completely 100% believe that. Forest beating a Spurs that's on the beach and its the perfect few days.

When they contrived these PSR rules Man United and Spurs probably weren't thinking about it protecting them from newly promoted clubs but here we are.

Oh huzzah.

Man United without atrocious red-cards and fouls for goals cant do shit

They're in the West Country TV region with the Bristol clubs not a Thames one or Herts/Becks etc. with Luton and them. Bristol games for Swindon are like us and Boro.

What does that even prove? Wimbledon won the FA Cup. Does that mean its rubbish? All those sides pictured beat better teams along the way than Man United and Spurs will face in the Europa League or Chelsea in the Conference. As did Wimbledon.

The format helps nothing either. Highlights the B and C league nature of them and Just further ensures progression for the teams you want to shake it up from. A random cup draw and Chelsea fetch up with Fiorentina and you've a chance of opening things up.

Second rate cups that include some of the best teams in Europe that are byed to the latter stages and the favourites to win the Europa or second rate cups that don't include any of the best teams in Europe that will probably end up having two clubs that would be fighting relegation battles most seasons contesting the final of.

In the same way the ZDS cup was more entertaining than the FA Cup.

When we were in the UEFA semis under that format we were with Valencia, Villareal, Marseilles (bt Liverpool) Quarters: Celtic (bt Barcelona), Bordeaux, PSV and Inter Seen stronger intertoto cups than this

Oh well, didn't know/care enough to know that.

and Lazio's on the way out, just to top if off nicely

Just watch them get Bobo/Glimt in the semis ffs

Utterly shambolic this like. And tremendous fun into the bargain

There must have been a hundred thousand similiar incidents that caused no fuss whatsoever when they went without a penalty being awarded.

Thought I must have missed all of those asterisks next to Chelsea and Manchester City's names over the last 20years but I checked wikipedia and its all there

Are Palace one of those clubs that play wind up songs? If not seems a bit harsh, but then again they've been dickheads with us so get it up them

Small wind up there - playing Glad All Over. Hope Parish absorbed every bit of it.

Score aside, its still been a far better, far more open game than I imagined

Reckon this lads come into some decent form of late

Elias was wrong. Barnes IS the firing squad.

Was gonna say in the match-thread - going steam+wireless tonight and the atmosphere is good, very considering its Palace, don't know what the TV's like.

An absolutely pointless change for the sake of change.

All the hallmarks of a drought developing here for Isak - need to get this nipped in the bud, tonight's as good as any hot streak > team scores plenty without him > chances coming and going