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Anybody that missed them, this is what the 90s finals felt like. A final and everything but the games went exactly as everyone expected, to the point it was actually unexpected, like it was too obvious to go like that. Be a surprise if this is any better.

That's as meaningful to the managers performance as beating the second best team in the country three times already this season with them barely having a sniff. Anybody else done that?

Just done a predictor for all the results and despite thinking all season (and pre-season) we woudn't get CL, we do, by a point from Chelsea, 2points from Brighton and 3points from Forest. 63points. Nice outcome but dreading the anxiety of that.

A write off fixture. Was actually one of our best grounds from my early years in this lark. W3 L1. Up to that first 4-3 I cant think of anywhere we'd won 3 times in the previous 8years.

I'll bet that's true as well. Going off episodes of Eurotrash I seen in the 90s

Shoe-in for them tonight unfortunately.

Germany/West Germany excluding East Germany has similar representation as us from the look of one site. Cant tell how many games were playe but one time qualifiers include Viktoria Koln, Wupperthal and Offenbach Kickers

Osasuna played Rangers one year, so them too

Real Oviedo have. Got a feeling Numancia have.

Really think its disingenuous to use 'improved atmosphere' to further a cause on this. There's just no way to know that anyway and the only evidence is overwhelmingly to the contrary. There's no examples since the mid90s cultural change of increased capacity much less new bigger stadium improving atmosphere in this country. We experienced it with the Gallowgate then the Milburn/Leazes extensions. A new stadium/extension is not going to turn around nearly 30years of culture change in football fans.

Yes Notts Forest. Notts Forest fans prefer their full name or at least Nottm to Notts like County...or Landing

Reminded me of another 4-3 game where Ginola did something similar. What slim chance he had under Dalglish was gone after that.

Hope so, they hate that

The board went up when it was 4-2. Probably anticipating the game was over. Suspect it would have been more if it had been 4-3 at that point.

The Premier League is objectively appraised as being shit quality again over there. Three promoted teams from their division relegated bar the formalities in February shit.

better to be 1 up and attacking?

Yeah think this defines this league season. Win and were in the CL hunt, lose and I think were out of it. So probably be a draw and none the wiser

i'd rather have years of abject Rashford performances backing my point up than a couple half decent performances at a new club. Be flash in the pan territory for a good while yet. (as someone who didn't comment/care one way or the other)

Its hardly altruistic and 'keeping' tickets cheap. Its because they cant charge more and not get a half empty or worse stadium. If they had the support they literally like to pretend they have they'd charge more. So I will knock them thanks

Well that's considerably lower than ours that same year then when we were a division lower and not winning FA Cups.

At the absolute least make a straight knockout competition instead of C team champions league. Not as much background noise TV content that way though.

Plan to put some money on Nunez scoring. Best let him notch in the league game.

Everton were getting 13,000 a year before winning the championship in the 80s, a year they won the FA Cup and got 13,000 in the PL era. That's lower than the standard dig at us when we were in the bottom half of the second divsion without a trophy for quarter of a century and at our all time lowest ebb. We took more to the charity shield than Everton and Blackburn took combined a year earlier. Cant make a case they're better supported than us at all. Fanbase has to manifest in gates at some point to have some basis in reality.

As someone above has mentioned Derby in 92, I was at the same fixture early on the next season, saw next to nothing (put in a paddock by then) and loved every bit of it. Fans since cant understand that because its completely changed, was never really about the entertainment as a spectacle but the occasion. A bit of the hairyness and rivallry going probably hasn't helped, felt like total enemies and personal for 90minutes, even somewhere like Derby or at home to Wolves, feels more like bants since.

End of story really. Just going around in circles with anything else.