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Today.

Yeah they're not giving this, psychologically the Brentford player down will influence it but shouldn't

Yeah, that's more refined how they prove it is up for grabs

They try to get rid of diving and they bring that rule in makes perfect sense

That's exactly the incident I was thinking of. or Mark Stein diving over Burridge in 89, keepers basically had to take the ball or the forward goes down with contact or dives and a pen is given

Its a classic way of winning a penalty - leave a trailing leg e.g. They'll just see 'contact' and have to give it, cant see the wood for the trees with the lack of common sense and understanding of the game being applied

made a rod for their own back with the disallowed goal classic case of a referee making up for previous error - my as well stuff the three minute pauses and technology and just back to old fashioned shit refs doing ot

You cant not give it after disallowing the goal for something so light.

'give me any excuse to disallow it, any at all please VAR, there must be something'

Think you're right on both counts. Its a completely natural reaction to a pretty poor 0-0 game at home to Brentford but wouldn't begrudge it being dialled up.

I thought the general consensus here was just that. 5th would be a massive result and most had us 5th-8th. Easy to say in preseason but all that's happening is bearing that out.

Coming from a fanbase that struggles to get cheap tickets for their home games when 0 points are required.

I wouldn't be too concerned if I were him, its just yet another business the Saudi's have invested in. You can attach 'sportswashing' to differentiate it from anything else and that's a load of bollocks in itself. Could just as easily come up with 'business-washing' and or 'airline washing' and leave sport off the hook like those industries are now. As is the notion that 'sportswashing' is to hide their human rights records when owning football clubs and hosting world cups is one of the worst things you could do if that's the case (most people in the west knew nothing about Qatar until they got/hosted the world cup) so you have to doubt that's the case at all. Think the most genuine concern should come from people who love the club and dont want it associated with Saudi. The other way I don't think really works. You shouldn't feel any differently about KSA now than you did before they owned a football club. Just my two penneth obviously.

Since were judging on a few games whatever the criticism of Howe should be magnified with Emery rather than have him set as an example to follow. We were well beaten by one good team, freakishly lost to another and lost narrowly at the best team in the world. Emery has played two good teams this season and frankly been thrashed both times.

Tonali into a well oiled unit isn't clicking at this point. Feels transitional rather than like for like. Touch of the Juninho at Boro about it. They added a luxury player into a well oiled machine and fucking it up and capitulated. They were ran by idiots though, we aren't.

Lost about 8 games a season on average under Keegan and about 14-15 a season under Sir Bobby. Going on like this after every defeat now will look about as good as it would have then. Wasn't the consensus 5th to 7th this season? - people realise that entails losing plenty of games surely? What's wrong with having a bad game. Instead most of our players being generally shit. That being the case why be surprised at Brighton? Shit teams tend to lose at good ones.

Probably heard about the bed wetting from that 360 twitter account that got a lot of air time and thought to check it out. Unfortunately many of our fans live up to expectations in that regard.

Got beat at home by Wimbledon four days before we beat Barcelona.

Dont know/care if he is injury prone or its been one long injury but generally I suspect such players (Dyers and Woodgates) are anathema to clubs in the FFP age. Taking up squad places and guzzling a salary. Suspect this was as much a factor in selling ASM as anything else.

Bare in mind there's not a cat in hells chance we play our first team.

No. Finished 7points behind. Dropped points in another 19 games. bed wetters could have filled their boots that season, then have the temerity to celebrate being in the CL by the end. Plus were not going for the league this season. Then we were. And there was less bed wetting.

Were not you guys. Shit still happens to the rest of us. We lost to ten at home to Arsenal under Keegan. A year later we were beating Barcelona in the Champions League and they were getting turned over by some Greek team in the UEFA cup. Shit happens but can also work out thereafter.

That plus some of our non-new fans seem to have forgotten how to take defeats at a growing club perhaps too. Which is why I'm not vexxed. Been kicked in the balls that much like this but not always with the knowledge were going places and getting better all the time. Third home game of 96/97 we lost 2-1 to Sheffield Wed for a second defeat (to two shit teams) in three games. Finished 2nd. No cause for bed wetting then much less now, pisser though it is.

It was a classic keep it tight and go for broke late on tactic that paid off. Sir Bobby with Glass, Lua-Lua and Cordone introduced against Man U when it was 0-1 springs to mind. Unlike then they could easily have been long since beaten by that point. Keegan lost to ten men at home to Arsenal. Shit happens. Some of our fans reactions to any setback remain the most disappointing thing for me. Were going to lose on average six-ten games a season even as a good team - so will everybody else bar Man City.

Thought the same thing. Forgot how many there were until the goal and the first noise the majority of them made all game. Must be a hard life not being guaranteed wins.