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Also, none of the speculation seems to be around whether a 19 year old defender just isn't ready to give what's expected of him yet. It's all about whether Howe fancies him, triggering transfers, why we paid so much, FFP, how it's a weird transfer etc.

It just means the people who are coming out with the same assertions they had about Gordon and were completely wrong, have no humility and seemingly haven't learned anything about what a player not playing or performing under Howe might mean beyond "Howe doesn't rate the him" - the player we'll have scouted extensively and he agreed we should spend £30m+ on. Read the last few pages back yourself, it's not at all the speculation I'm on about like, it's the jumping to conclusions about what him not playing means, to me it's just daft.

You're talking about speculation, I'm talking about confident assertions basically. I do find it odd that people are so sure of themselves in the same way again having got it wrong in the same way just recently, aye. At this stage no one knows, so this stuff about us "obviously not fancying him" (just one of many similar posts) is daft, especially having seen Gordon's journey and knowing how Eddie only plays players when he knows they can be trusted.

Losing to Wrexham would feel like something designed to be specifically insufferable to me. I can't stand the whole love in for them tbh.

Gordon started 4 matches last season, Hall has started 1 in a much more competitive position. Regardless it didn't stop the complaining about Gordon's lack of goals and assists (I remember the amount of times it had to be brought up that he'd put it on a plate for Wilson a few times only for him to miss), and the same "what's the point in signing him if we're not going to play him?" point being made. And again, no one is being told to keep their mouth shut, I just wonder why they don't in those circumstances, or at least be a bit more patient and open minded when we know what Howe's like now.

* polite applause *

Will take that but I'm so sick of these away draws like.

I just don't get why no one learns to keep their mouth shut until they know more. It's like people questioning the Gordon signing and then him being brilliant the following season never happened. Some players play how Howe wants them to out of the box, others need assembly. You don't play until you're trusted defensively, Gordon hinted to that himself, and Burn is trusted hugely, to the extent of him playing ahead of Livramento. Have some patience.

Technically right but we did score via an own goal in 16/17

I love Isak and presumably the choice was always Isak and Wilson or Wilson and Joao Pedro, but I would have loved to have got Joao Pedro here like.

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That Maidstone win, man. Truly a Homer vs Drederick Tatum victory

Areet Legga! Hope you're doing well. It's the more emotional posts about it I think are fair game for ribbing. Howe's in an unenviable position, imagine if he makes changes on 2-0 and we go on to lose, it's not unlikely either with the players available.

Should I get a pizza?

Mad that such a boring little dweeb single handedly ruined Ginola's Newcastle prowess.

We didn't bring subs on mate. Not good enough. The subs:

Howeh, if you're losing it over that then you're kind of proving a point like.

Gan wipe yourself man ye wet fannies

Could do with longer than 2 days to go into this like, fucking hell. I'd like to at least enjoy today for a bit.

I disagree, despite us being poor they created almost nowt.

Justice for the Mark Crossley match. I've seen us play 10x better against worse teams and lose. The beauty and the chaos of football. Our fans sounded great tonight. Dubravka: 7 Trippier: 6 Schär: 7 Botman: 7.5 Burn: 7.5 Miley: 6 Bruno: 5.5 Longstaff: 6 Murphy: 6 Isak: 6.5 Gordan: 7 Livramento: 7

Schär always plays that ball tbf. He did it constantly with a canny low success rate against the mackems. It just maybe didn't seem as bad because they kept giving us the ball back.

Think you need to be on the ball to get to be shocking like. Think he's been quiet, but also should have scored twice, it's a weird one.

In what way? Schär yellow card aside they've dealt with everything, kept the ball, and covered for Burn, Bruno, and Longstaff.