Kid Icarus

If we're ever lucky enough to get to a CL final, we might get to see just how well behaved our cunt/horse punching section are and how comfortable we are with being tarnished with the same brush. When I went to Bruges and got chatting with some of the locals, they weren't complimentary about us, put it that way. Yet all I heard about from our fans was how badly the Belgian police had treated them. Likewise Palermo.

Considering the comments were being made before what was and wasn't true was even known, I'm gonna go ahead and say it was from people with an agenda and that it was embarrassing, particularly considering the ratio of heavy handed police vs misbehaving fans.

Was fucking embarrassing seeing "it's never their fault though" posts on here yet again

Dortmund being after him (if true) is the biggest thing for me. A huge endorsement from a club that seems to rarely miss when it comes to young talent.

So what's the sitch? Is this looking likely?

There's probably like 50 dril tweets that apply to Luke Edwards.

Can you get this over there? It's decent/serviceable.

The cheese is getting better tbf. I had a vegan mac and cheese the other week where the cheese sauce was made from blended cashews and flavourings and it didn't make me want to kill myself. They're getting there when it's melted, I'll give them that.

Conversations always go off on tangeants. It's better than the same relentless drivel over who the sponsor will be or whether we can knock down Leazes Terrace etc imo. It's in the Not Worthy of a Thread section as well, so not like anyone's coming in here expecting updates on something.

Why? Just let people talk man.

FWIW the point I was making was more that the changes need to happen above rather than they shouldn't happen. We have an abundance of food worldwide that's being thrown out while 9 million people starve to death every year, all to uphold capitalism. I'm pretty sure we could reduce the amount of meat we consume and still have enough food to go around,

The food chain argument doesn't hold up imo. The fact that we have a developed conscience coinciding with industrialised, alternative ways to get the nutrients we need is what sharply distringuishes as being separate from the rest of the food chain.

Or the male chicks that are immediately killed in the egg industry, or the way cows are treated for milk. Tbf, I don't think anyone should be criticised anyway because it's more or less impossible to live an unhypocritical life - even vegans choosing soya are 'guilty' of funding deforestation. It's all a micro-consumerist distraction, if you're doing your best you're doing your best, if you're not you're not. Either way it's not the level at which change will make any difference beyond your own conscience.

The horse meat thing was the maddest like. It just goes to show how strong the boundaries we set are. I've said it before and I'll say it again like, make veganism as accessible as eating meat and I'll make the jump like. I'm half way there and eat meat less than I used to anyway, the food is sensational now as well.

He's a few stamps short of a free coffee and he's seen some serious shit in his life, but even he didn't stay there that long like.

I'm far too cynical to believe him like, but I also feel bad because I don't.

I get what WM is saying though. My step-brother worked at an abattoir and if intentionally causing pain is the defining line, then from what he told me abattoirs and the meat industry definitely aren't exempt.

It's becoming more and more clear that football supporters are turning into football consumers. You'd expect the ones doing the selling to treat us that way, what I didn't expect is just how much supporters would start demanding to be treated that way.

Now that we have Trippier and Bruno, I see it as a changing of the guard in terms of leadership anyway.

A better graph would have the red on a gradient to account for outliers while still showing the general trend.

It's honestly probably deliberate. Marketing departments often try to be clever with this sort of thing

I'd say he's at the absolute limit of fanciful before getting into delusion, as Trippier and Bruno were. Can't see him leaving Juve for anyone tbh, but he'd be my dream RW signing.

He's played a fair bit for Man City this season towards the end. Haven't seen anything other than quality from him tbh, defensively, on the ball, and from set pieces.

You've got to trust Howe, especially if attacking full backs are critical to how he wants us to play, but I really will be gutted if we don't keep Targett like. Not keeping someone that good feels alien, he's been magnificent. No risk because he's a known quality. An 8/9 defensively every week and a 7 overall And he can improve his attacking play Let's hope that if he does go it's a Kelly to Beardsley and Sellars to Ginola situation where no one wanted Kelly or Sellars to go but then we immediately got it once we saw Beardsley and Ginola.