Kid Icarus

I like the idea personally, but Liverpool has a really strong socialist history that's still going relatively strong and designs like that still suit them now. We don't really we have that unfortunately, but we do have a history of mining trade unions, so designs like this invoke our own history a bit more? https://www.google.com/search?q=northumberland+mining+trade+union+banners&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjSxsi81O32AhUKKMAKHfNtAaoQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=northumberland+mining+trade+union+banners&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzoHCCMQ7wMQJ1CnBliqE2CDFGgAcAB4AIABPIgBkASSAQIxMJgBAKABAaoBC2d3cy13aXotaW1nwAEB&sclient=img&ei=YjVEYtKNDorQgAbz24XQCg&bih=937&biw=1920&rlz=1C1GCEB_enGB980GB980

I can't wait to see how far the classy marrative will go. When it's the only delewsion they have left, it'll get so intense and ingrained in a few years time that they'll be back-patting themselves awake in the morning.

They're all a bunch of fucking Karens tbh.

You pay for authenticity like, but the prices are an excellent advert for DHGate.

God I'd love the tits off Kalvin Phillips like

Should be unbelievable but isn't. 5 goals in 12 matches or something from a defender, England's highest goalscoring defender of all time, a massive part of the teams to get to a World Cup semi, a Euro final, and has never once let England down. Booed. Pathetic cunts

Was looking where to post that. Here's the full thing.

Not watching but why are they booing Maguire? Surely not because of his performances for Man United?

Keeping the sound in

Adidas seem to be the only ones who understand what's popular at the moment. Nike are releasing any old shite.

Can't really put into words just how tacky I think gold looks on a football kit like. Absolutely rank

Aye it's getting a bit 'if you can't handle me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best' at times

The inspiration for your Davey Brexit character is a bit clearer now

If you read the thread it's only a few like. I couldn't stand being on that forum with some of the mensa heeds on there.

Depends who's managing who.

It got onto that area of dicussion mainly because people are now trying to claim this generation of players is the best we've ever had, rather than giving the credit to Southgate. As has been said, Southgate's a victim of his own success on that front because before him these players weren't producing for England, don't play as well for for their clubs, and we're widely seen as post-golden generation no hopers. The way it's shifted from one to the other in such a short space of time has given me whiplash basically.

I know it's just an opinion like, it's fine for me to think it's an insane one.

It's cherry picking again. I rate Mount highly, but his best stuff is played at Chelsea not England, whereas Joe Cole (along with Beckham and Ashley Cole) was a regular performer for England, or at the very least didn't get the same criticism them others got.

Or Balon d'ors? There are plenty of metrics to point to where the '66 squad is concerned.

Is winning the world cup not a metric like?

Chilwell's played just over 100 games. Wayne Bridge was a consistently very good left back over a number of years and who came with the 'it's just a shame for him that Ashley Cole's ahead of him' tagline. Just absolute and total revisionism.

Just totally insane Making it an all time thing when we won the World Cup with a squad including 3 or 4 of the best players of all time in their positions (Banks, Moore, Charlton, Greaves) is just crackers. It would be bad enough thinking this is the best group of players in my lifetime ('84 onwards) tbh.

Baring in mind the only reason some of our current players have a reputation is because they've built them with England, not their club, this is the combined '04 and '21 squad Sven is picking imo (yes, I'm 12 years old) Robinson Pickford James Walker Alexander-Arnold Ferdinand Terry Campbell King Carragher Cole Bridge Trippier Gerrard Scholes Lampard Beckham Butt/Henderson Mount Dyer Rooney Kane Owen Sterling Foden Rashford

Absolutely bonkers. Not even worth it at this point. The sea-change in the way people think about the players in the current England squad should be a good thing. It should be good that they're now seemingly rated so highly. It's just a shame that the team's achievements are being used as a way to excuse Southgate of his part in it and to big up the players while also reverse engineering away the talent from previous generations who were much more highly rated and were far better at their clubs. It's just weird and wrong. Totally mental.

In terms of how they've actually performed for England, I don't think there can be that much of an argument with that line-up. I'd go Walker over James and Sterling over Rooney or Saka or Foden. The key thing is Southgate and the overhaul overall though isn't it? If you were choosing those players over the ones that played for their clubs the argument would be much bigger and aside from Kane, Foden, Sterling, none of them would be getting in a combined XI 'on talent'