Whitley mag

Wrong. It doesn't matter what they sign at the bottom, they repeatedly talk about the fanbase as a whole in their letter and indeed in all of their communications. And it doesn't matter if people do things for free or professionally - If you do them publicly, do them well or expect criticism. Then there's a choice: Throw your toys out the pram, or use that criticism to do better next time because, as said, we all want them to do well. But the criticism absolutely is valid and should not be censored just because they're doing it for free. They're representing us, in our eyes AND seemingly in theirs. If we feel the tone is wrong, we have every right to say that. At no point have they said they’re representing the fanbase, they have asked for support from the fanbase which is entirely different. They mention the fanbase as in the 100 thousand signatures and the NUST poll of 97% approval for takeover, but at no point have they claimed to speak for the whole fanbase. If you think by writing this letter it makes them fair game to be called embarrassing, then no wonder no fan action in relation to removing Ashley has ever stuck. This fanbase has a major problem with anyone standing up to take action. If you think criticism is due and you claim to want them to do well, why don’t you get in touch with them and offer some help. I’ll keep coming back to this it’s easy to criticise, and I’d be very interested to know which parts of the letter you think embarrass us as fans so much ? I’m quite sure they’d welcome constructive feedback, but some of the criticism is ott and way off the mark.

You have no idea about strategy have you? Ashley AND the consortium are playing this very well. Obviously you can't see that or you are too thick to comprehend it. He’s to thick to comprehend it mate, and clearly has an agenda.

This is such a nonsensical argument. I'm not allowed to criticise because I haven't written a letter myself? Get out of here. That's like saying I can't criticise any of our players unless I'm willing to be a better professional footballer myself. Think the referee made a wrong call? Don't mention it if you've not reffed in the PL yourself. Criticise the government? Not until you've been PM yourself and done a better job! You see how silly it is? It just doesn't work like that, stop talking such utter soil. I have every right to criticise anything I wish that's released into the public domain, especially if it purports to be taking action on my behalf. We already (rightly or wrongly) have an image problem as a fanbase, and as a fan I'm entitled to not want that made worse and I absolutely will speak out if I think that's the case. Again, I'm very much behind the concept of what they're doing but if they're getting "disgusting" stick over this letter, it's because of what they themselves have written. Maybe the fault is there, not with the people pointing that out? This is a unique situation and not comparable to the examples you have quoted. The examples you have given are all well paid professionals, who have put themselves in a position where you would expect criticism. Why on earth would someone want to criticise 2 fans using there own time, and money for the potential benefit of the whole fanbase ? I’m not accusing yourself of this, and to be honest I really can’t be arsed to scrawl back through old posts, however when people are accusing them of being embarrassing, in what way is that constructive ? If these 2 lads decided to say f*** this, we’d all be worse off as a result. As for potentially embarrassing the fanbase, have a word with yourself, these 2 lads are individually doing more for this fanbase than anyone else I can remember in recent memory. On a final point the latter was not signed on behalf of the fanbase, therefore to imply it reflects on yourself or any other supporter is utter tosh.

And now I think they’ve done it on purpose and in fact it is backed by the legal team and nick the baker is a genius. Boris is now sitting there thinking ‘these people speak my language, I must help my people’ Oh Joey if your going to be churlish and criticise other people for being incoherent, you need to make sure your spot on yourself. I would have thought some of the other highly intelligent posters on here who have criticised NCSL would have picked you up. That "that that" repetition is an infelicity that that author might have avoided with a bit of rewording so that that "that that" juxtaposition never found its way into print. Four words in before you f***ed up yourself. Amazing. https://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2013/08/this-and-that.html Difference is I don’t criticise others like your good self. Except that that's ( ) exactly what you did do. You claimed the letter was a ramble and incoherent, then proceeded to write a sentence that was incoherent. Now that is that.

And now I think they’ve done it on purpose and in fact it is backed by the legal team and nick the baker is a genius. Boris is now sitting there thinking ‘these people speak my language, I must help my people’ Oh Joey if your going to be churlish and criticise other people for being incoherent, you need to make sure your spot on yourself. I would have thought some of the other highly intelligent posters on here who have criticised NCSL would have picked you up. That "that that" repetition is an infelicity that that author might have avoided with a bit of rewording so that that "that that" juxtaposition never found its way into print. Four words in before you f***ed up yourself. Amazing. https://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2013/08/this-and-that.html Difference is I don’t criticise others like your good self.

I’d suggest you do this at the PL headquarters, that way at least it’ll get cleaned up. St Jame’s is currently scruffy without your s**** all over it.

And now I think they’ve done it on purpose and in fact it is backed by the legal team and nick the baker is a genius. Boris is now sitting there thinking ‘these people speak my language, I must help my people’ Oh Joey if your going to be churlish and criticise other people for being incoherent, you need to make sure your spot on yourself. I would have thought some of the other highly intelligent posters on here who have criticised NCSL would have picked you up. That "that that" repetition is an infelicity that that author might have avoided with a bit of rewording so that that "that that" juxtaposition never found its way into print. *You're Also, there's a big difference between writing a post on an internet forum and writing a letter to the Prime Minister as representatives of an entire fan base. I support what they're doing, but that doesn't make them beyond reproach. This isn't some binary "with or against" situation where we must be entirely partisan in our thoughts. Their letter could've been a lot better and there's nothing wrong in pointing that out. Well if the letter could have been a lot better, why don’t you write one to Boris and stick it up on here ? That would be a constructive way of making a contribution, instead of nit picking over a letter that certainly doesn’t need to be polished. It’s very easy to ‘point out’ as you put it, but the stick these lads have been getting from elements of the fan base is disgusting. Good job they seem to have broad shoulders, as currently they’re a great source of information and are keeping this in the media spotlight.

And now I think they’ve done it on purpose and in fact it is backed by the legal team and nick the baker is a genius. Boris is now sitting there thinking ‘these people speak my language, I must help my people’ Oh Joey if your going to be churlish and criticise other people for being incoherent, you need to make sure your spot on yourself. I would have thought some of the other highly intelligent posters on here who have criticised NCSL would have picked you up. That "that that" repetition is an infelicity that that author might have avoided with a bit of rewording so that that "that that" juxtaposition never found its way into print.

Some would say your post is a bit cringeworthy, after all they are amateurs, just 2 fans like any of us. Yet again what are you doing to support the takeover ?

Sorry to disappoint some on here, but the letter has the full support of buyers. Not bad for a couple of rambling, illiterate and embarrassing individuals.

Liam Kennedy sums it up perfectly here.

Nah if it was me it would have a few expletives in it, and be even more of a ramble I’m afraid. Sorry to disappoint you, but I will keep championing these lads whether posters like it or not.

I’m perfectly cool but despair when 2 lads who are putting their own time and money into this are being criticised. There action is perfectly summed up by this tweet, they don’t need to be polished and word perfect for the purpose of what they are trying to achieve.

It’s 2 fans for fucks sake, there not a professional organisation. So what if the letter is passionate and a bit of a ramble in places. There’s some excellent and relevant points in the letter, yeah it could have been more concise but who gives a fuck. I’d like to seem some on here criticising compose a letter, to be pulling them apart for certain phrases and wording sums up a few smug arseholes on here.

More unsubstantiated nonsense from you Sean, you claim Wraith wrote this on their behalf. Where’s your proof of this, also are you still claiming they lied in regard to self funding ? Easy to criticise while you sit on your arse.

Yeah I would imagine this is a major sticking point and smacks of further corruption due to old boys network.

This part of the NCSL letter yesterday is quite interesting in regards to this gentleman Peter McCormick. They allege that in his role as lawyer he played a key role in PIF bid being blocked. I’ve never previously heard his name mentioned, but what makes this very interesting is that he’s now interim head of the FA. After reading the whole of NCSL’s letter what is clear is that they are not confident in this review of football governance, and it would appear the cross over of power between the PL and FA is very blurred. The main issue in regards to arbitration though would be that if both parties can’t agree on the 3rd member of panel, it goes to the FA to choose the member. Now surely if MCCormick has played such a key role in blocking the takeover this can’t be right, and would certainly make it evident why NCSL are being used by buyer and seller to try and get this into public domain.

I think Qatar and Bein’s influence will be highlighted in legal action, the long letter sent by NCSL to Boris yesterday references their interference as well.

Let’s finish the year on a positive note, PIF are ready and waiting to complete the deal. Here’s hoping for 2021 !!

Really going for it would perhaps be issuing the legal proceedings in the Competition Appeals Tribunal - which they said they would - not write a load of letters. It's a load of illogical, disorganised emotive crap, pulling fans along for a ride with no logical destination. Atleast they're trying something? Better then doing nothing, or bitching about them online. As far as I can see from their Twitter account they've spent more time slagging off other Newcastle fans than trying to achieve anything meaningful. It's all a scam - strings being pulled primarily by Steve Wraith. Nothing to do with Steve Wraith and what are you doing to assist the takeover ? I haven’t seen anywhere where they’ve slagged off other fans, they’ve merely pointed out that t***s like you are happy to criticise but done f*** all yourself. As for it being a scam, these blokes have used their own hard earned cash you f***ing cretin. Fans like you fella deserve another 13 years of Ashley. All new members trying to convince others the Takeover is dead. Hmmm very suspicious. I wont change my view until Nick De Marco says what the outcome is I can usually smirk at most stuff on here, but when people are lying and making up shit about 2 genuine lads it’s a bit fucking much.

They have said they’ve used their own cash, are you saying there lying ?