Whitley mag

Dear Micky and Minnie Mouse I write to at this dark time to remind you of your moral obligation to millions of children around the world. As I’m sure your well aware those evil Saudis have purchased a 5% stake in your company. Just so I look consistent and don’t come across as a hypocrite to those Neanderthal geordies, I call on you to make a stand against this. Clearly I’ll still subscribe to you on the Disney channel as the kids love it, but maybe you could have a word with Aladdin and we can get some sort of human rights message across in his next movie. Hold on got to rush my ubers waiting outside. Yours sincerely Miguel Delaney

Eh? So 1/3 of clubs get to vote on it? I'm not sure what you mean. He implied that to block the deal 2/3 of prem clubs would have to vote to block it. My point being at know point in the directors test does it mention the clubs even get the chance to vote. I was using it as an example of why the whole podcast seemed based on conjecture and very little info.

Aye, its the worst argument of all time. Awful. Don’t being so fu#%ing goofy, it’ll be a very legitimate grievance if where the only company they’re not allowed to invest in. because sport is the same as every other business? got you. Football is essentially a business in relation to this debate. The pif are currently making investments across the globe without a murmur of dissent. Wherever you like it or not football is big business now, if it was all about how will our club be perceived around the world, the premier league test would have a section where fans views are taken into account. Whether you argue well pif are only taking a 5% stake in the companies so is not the same doesn’t wash. The issue hear for most fans whether you like it or not, is there appears to be an agenda and level of hypocrisy around this deal. You can call it paranoia but we’ve been the arm pit of England for my 44 years, the bottom line of this test should be simply is our club better under the current or new owners. The piracy issue is a side show, there‘s piracy going on in this country and all over the world. To use that as excuse to block this deal will at best be seen as hypocrisy, but at worst corruption and a clear message of know your place. As in a lot of walks of life in the north east our future appears to be in the hands of a few suits in London, who currently have no idea or care of the impact this will have on our emotional or financial well being. So if this deal is blocked it will be nothing to do with human rights or how our club will be perceived with Saudi owners, it will be about the business of protecting the big 6 and the premier league’s chosen partners. It would certainly cause some parties 10 miles down the road, but the clearest message to draw would be the north’s east is here to make up the numbers and know your fu#%ing place. If you can live that with that fine but I’ll be checking out this time for good.

Aye, its the worst argument of all time. Awful. Don’t being so fu#%ing goofy, it’ll be a very legitimate grievance if where the only company they’re not allowed to invest in.

Just listened to that Duncan Castle podcast, as far as I’m aware 2/3 of the prem clubs can’t block this takeover because they don’t get to vote on it. It will be decided by the prem board on the criteria of the test, think a lot of the stuff in that podcast is just pi#%ing in the wind.

Martin Ziegler, mandoon, Miguel Delaney, Stan Collymore, Richard Keys, kazeiro, Martin Samuel, Luke Edwards, PSG, amnesty international, Oliver Holt, Qatar.........I’ll tell you what where still in there fighting for this takeover and I’ll tell you what I will love it, love it when when this fu#%cking takeover is announced !

Just when I thought I was out, they pull you right back in again. I’ll be fu#%cking bipolar when this is done.

So worst case this Tory back bencher gets his select committee meeting, I’d imagine timescale for this could be weeks if not months if it involves evidence gathering. As long as uk government don’t intervene which there is no evidence they will, does the premier league delay decision until the committee sits ? In his e mail he mentions about premier league being present, now going off the Southampton example could they delay until this meeting and pcp can do f#%k all ? I suspect the premier league haven’t got a clue how to play this at minute, my suspicion is they wait for the select committee to meet, then if it’s damning and implies Saudis are guilty of piracy they use that as there get out and block deal. Happy for someone to tell me I’m way off, but today has knocked my confidence for the first time in this. Hopefully someone tells me I’m wrong but I’m starting to think this goes on months.

If you had to guess, what would you say the driving force is? Not to go all tin hat, but this reminded me that her fiancee was being fed pro-Qatar narratives for his articles just before he was killed. Obviously doesn't mean he should've been killed. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/jamal-khashoggis-final-months-an-exile-in-the-long-shadow-of-saudi-arabia/2018/12/21/d6fc68c2-0476-11e9-b6a9-0aa5c2fcc9e4_story.html "Perhaps most problematic for Khashoggi were his connections to an organization funded by Saudi Arabia’s regional nemesis, Qatar. Text messages between Khashoggi and an executive at Qatar Foundation International show that the executive, Maggie Mitchell Salem, at times shaped the columns he submitted to The Washington Post, proposing topics, drafting material and prodding him to take a harder line against the Saudi government. Khashoggi also appears to have relied on a researcher and translator affiliated with the organization, which promotes Arabic-language education in the United States." "Khashoggi also appears to have accepted significant help with his columns. Salem, the executive at the Qatar foundation, reviewed his work in advance and in some instances appears to have proposed language, according to a voluminous collection of messages obtained by The Post. In early August, Salem prodded Khashoggi to write about Saudi Arabia’s alliances “from DC to Jerusalem to rising right wing parties across Europe...bringing an end to the liberal world order that challenges their abuses at home.” Khashoggi expressed misgivings about such a strident tone, then asked, “So do you have time to write it?” “I’ll try,” she replied, although she went on to urge him to “try a draft” himself incorporating sentences that she had sent him by text. A column reflecting their discussion appeared in The Post on Aug. 7. Khashoggi appears to have used some of Salem’s suggestions, though it largely tracks ideas that he expressed in their exchange over the encrypted app WhatsApp. Other texts in the 200-page trove indicate that Salem’s organization paid a researcher who did work for Khashoggi. The foundation is an offshoot of a larger Qatar-based organization. Khashoggi also relied on a translator who worked at times for the Qatari embassy and the foundation." This can’t be true are you a Saudi bot bobloblaw ?

No think your spot on she’s having her strings pulled and and it’s transparent to the majority of us. yeah you know more than us sheeple. Certainly know more than you.

No think your spot on she’s having her strings pulled and and it’s transparent to the majority of us.

Hearing from who ? Say your right that would would be convenient where not happy with you investing in nufc, but come back in for Man U or liverpool and we’ll waive it through.

Still only shows link upto last Wednesday when I go in, usually takes a while to pop up.

So if you believe the ronny gill and these documents haven’t come from bein, it would be interesting to know who has. It could be British broadcasters, la Liga, human rights lawyers digging for shit or even clubs within prem desperate to stop this. My main concern is the league is stalling this decision in the hope they get that bit of evidence to block this, time will tell but my feeling is the decision will be based purely on which outcome creates the least s#%t storm for them.

This bloke has bein sports in his twitter profile, as always important to know who’s view you are reading. As we know forces at work to stop this but I’m fairly confident this won’t be anything new.

This are the premier league going to keep delaying for every fu#%er who sends a letter in. If they weren’t found guilty in a French court of law, I very much doubt premier league lawyers are going to come to a different verdict. They’d have to be very sure it would stand up in a court of law, because that’s where pcp would take them.

I wouldn’t take this story as gospel there may well have been documents presented, but it’s only the writers opinion that it will cause a delay. Still doesn’t ease our nerves just as we seemed to be in home straight.

Spot on think it’ll be one of those spine tingling occasions first game back at St James. Think 13 years of suffering will be released and It’ll be special no doubt.

There’s no way they write that without it being info passed on. Its #cans time !

Think the majority of us will have broad enough shoulders to deal with any flak coming our way.

I’m 44 and hate then still as much as when I was 12. Bring on Armageddon for them !

I don't care if it's Qatar releasing the story. It's one we should be discussing seriously. It's not enough to simply acknowledge wrong-doing. A man was murdered for criticising a regime. That does not deserve death. Why should we ? It’s got nothing to do with football, if your going to attach the murder to the purchase of the club then also discuss it in relation to live nation, Warner brothers and other Saudi purchases. No one is disputing the murder is horrendous, it’s the hypocrisy that the sale of nufc should be stopped whilst all these other deals go throughout without a murmur. The one thing this deal won’t be stopped on is human rights, it would put the premier league at odds with the policy of the U.K. government. What is blatantly happening here is human rights lawyers are using the high profile nature of this sale to gain publicity, as they know the Saudis buying stakes in other companies just doesn’t draw the same attention. You can’t blame them for this as this is their job, however what I strongly object to is the notion that we should sacrifice the chance of a lifetime for our city and club, If this was blocked these same people would move on to their next cause and wouldn’t give a s%#t about us. So whilst I acknowledge and understand the human rights aspect, ths hypocrisy expecting us to be line drawn in the sand with Saudis doesn’t wash with me and many others. Spot on Whitley Mag. 100% agree with you here, everything you said is spot on. Nail on head Because we argued Ashley was a human rights abuser and used that angle in some of our protesting. Makes us look a tad hypocritical if we say nowt. Yeah that is going to make us look very hypocritical, I don’t think anyone would have done it if he had ran the club well, but the fact is we did. That’s a fair point some did try to use Ashley’s poor treatment of sd staff to highlight our cause, however still think your missing my point. At no point did we ever call on sports direct to shut down, thereby denying thousands of people vital jobs. These people are actively calling for the sale to be stopped denying millions being poured into our local economy. I’m fine with Human activists raising concerns as we have done with sports direct, however to actively want this sale to be stopped is hypocrisy when other deals with Saudis go through unopposed.

I don't care if it's Qatar releasing the story. It's one we should be discussing seriously. It's not enough to simply acknowledge wrong-doing. A man was murdered for criticising a regime. That does not deserve death. Why should we ? It’s got nothing to do with football, if your going to attach the murder to the purchase of the club then also discuss it in relation to live nation, Warner brothers and other Saudi purchases. No one is disputing the murder is horrendous, it’s the hypocrisy that the sale of nufc should be stopped whilst all these other deals go throughout without a murmur. The one thing this deal won’t be stopped on is human rights, it would put the premier league at odds with the policy of the U.K. government. What is blatantly happening here is human rights lawyers are using the high profile nature of this sale to gain publicity, as they know the Saudis buying stakes in other companies just doesn’t draw the same attention. You can’t blame them for this as this is their job, however what I strongly object to is the notion that we should sacrifice the chance of a lifetime for our city and club, If this was blocked these same people would move on to their next cause and wouldn’t give a s%#t about us. So whilst I acknowledge and understand the human rights aspect, ths hypocrisy expecting us to be line drawn in the sand with Saudis doesn’t wash with me and many others.

Looking back great times when we look at what’s happened since. But Halls legacy will always be tainted for me, he sold the club without any due care of who he was selling to. The Gibraltar office was exposed as never being used and they billed the club a hefty fee for it. Not to mention when club was floated they made sure as majority share holders they got a nice dividend ever year as well. This for me was the real reason Keegan walked after spurs game, he knew that fans money was no longer going to be going on players, but instead into halls and shepherds pockets.

John And Douglas Hall did very well out of nufc, when he comes on to talk about Ashley these days got to say I switch off. He couldn’t wait to sell the club with Freddie laid up in hospital. Prior to the sale to Ashley he also made a fortune when the club floated on stock market. This S#%t about we’d never marketed the club abroad doesn’t wash, he’s just trying to ease his conscience and conveniently forgets how they charged the club for empty warehouses and offices abroad and paid halls daughter a directors wage for doing f#%k all. Whilst Ashley has fu#%ked us over for 13 years, let’s not forget worse still our own including Westwood, Seymour, mckeag, shepherd and halls have all treat us with contempt and used this club for their own ends.