Matt1892

If he goes to Saudi we can use the Bayern bid as a comparison for fair market value. It is the right time to see, as sad as it will be to see him go.

Putting his release clause to the side for a moment but how much do people think Olise is worth?

I’m struggling to function worrying about transfers and Lloyd Kelly’s injury record.

Palace would probably accept £60 million for Olise anyway, even without the release clause.

Average age of 23.

They will likely go through as individual transfers on the condition that all of them take place.

Kelleher is from Liverpool’s academy.

I would rather sign Iheanacho on a short term deal to see if Howe can get him back on track than commit £20 million on DCL. I am sure if we could invest freely then he wouldn’t be someone we would consider. However, that isn’t the case and with Tosin going to Chelsea then we might need to spend on another centre back too. I like Gordon up top if Isak is out, his movement in the box when he isn’t in possession is high level, arguably better than Isak in that department.

It is good that they have extended the kids sizes to 15-16 though which castore didn’t do.

Not really, they are tested in that they are constantly under fire but everything becomes haphazard compared to the structure you want to develop them playing, as well as the impact on the mental side of it where you might pull off some decent saves on a regular basis, but you have absolutely no realistic chance of being successful.

You can’t nurture a young goalkeeper in a team that is relegation fodder.

You would expect it to come with age, it is rare to see a player that is a unit at such a young age and if the club wants to specifically develop that part of his game we can, like we have done with Anderson.

I get what you are saying and for me Trafford has all of the bits to his game to be a top keeper. However, that will only come together with playing. Saying that Liverpool’s back up keeper looks quality and he has played less football than Trafford, despite being 25.

No idea what you are on about.

So what is the issue then?

What is the issue then?

Hopefully the away keeper kit is a better colour, Real Madrid have it in light blue and it looks so much better, as does Germany’s in black.

Here is an article from the Athletic about him just over a year ago, they speak highly of his distribution and reflexes. He is a youngster though, but if people think there are 21 year old goalkeepers that are world class then they might need a reality check. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/4407763/2023/04/15/james-trafford-man-city-bolton/

More chance of getting £20 million for Ashworth than £40 million for Minteh, unless there are add ons on the add ons.

I presume they would still be under contract until the 30th June even if they are being released.

If you are a club with ambition you are going to want to get as close as possible to the limit without going over, if we have gone over then I wouldn’t expect it to be by a huge amount and will hopefully be able to shift someone like Fraser to cover it.

If we had signed Wharton he would have probably been back up to an injured Longstaff over the second half of the season anyway to be fair.

So my point is that just because a young player doesn’t fulfil his potential at Dortmund doesn’t mean he won’t anywhere else, you don’t disagree with that but still want to argue the point? Brilliant. I don’t know why Isak didn’t fulfil his potential at Dortmund but he didn’t, that isn’t knocking Isak so no need to jump to his defence on that, sometimes it doesn’t work out and we have benefitted from that so it worked for us. As for Adeyemi, he looks to me like someone with the speed and trickery that you would look for in a wide player but he hasn’t put it all together yet, similar to Gordon before he came here actually. His decision making is also quite poor and there doesn’t seem to be any development in his game around that, so what you do with a player like that is invest time in working with them individually on routines and scenarios to almost take the decision away from them and it becoming instinct.

He left there a few months before his 20th birthday but the point still stands, just because a player doesn’t fulfil their potential at Dortmund it doesn’t mean that they never will.

I think the reasons we consider him is for the reasons above, that we feel that there is untapped potential there and if Howe can get him to be more consistent then we have a bargain. Worth remembering that Isak didn’t make the grade at Dortmund either, so I don’t think that would put the club off.