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Christ, we kept giving the ball away through sloppiness in the end of so many of these clips. Just goes to show that Woltemade is the least of our worries. Even if you focus on the general play rather than the goals.

https://www.whoscored.com/teams/26/show/england-liverpool Worst rated player in their entire squad for the season so far.

This is what was really odd about their window. I thought that the Ekitike deal meant that they had given up on Isak. Why would they spend so much on 2 strikers when they still have problems elsewhere? Ekitike at a steep price was more than good enough to be the "main man" upfront. They could have gone for a very good rotation option at half the price of Isak, and signed players in other positions instead. Today they benched an inform £79m striker just because they had bought an even more expensive striker, and felt like they have to play him, and they lost as a result of this.

Why didn't they start Ekitike.. Crazy.

Exactly. Even the mid table teams has wingers (or 10s) who can produce those game winning moments. Sarr, Mitoma/Minteh, Ndiaye/Grealish, Bowen/Paqueta, Semenyo/Kluivert.. I'd take all of these over Gordon currently.

You'd think that playing for Man Utd with all the pressure around that would have made him somewhat used to it.

Imagine how many goals he would be scoring for us with top notch wingers around him, instead of mr. can't beat a man and mr. don't know what to do with the ball. Need to start Murphy going forward. Atleast he creates.

Won't get a big move anyways playing like this all season. Not even close to beating the defenders in a 1v1. The shots are weak aswell. No threat.

Not a striker btw.

Our £40-45m wingers on the other side doesn't really look threatening either these days..

As good as our recruitment has been.. We've spent £140m on wingers, and our most dangerous and consistent winger is currently Jacob Murphy. I truly hope Elanga is a success, we really need it.

To be fair to Zinchenko, he has put it on a plate twice for them now, but they keep missing.

Horrible play by Neco Williams..

Chelsea got some defenders back, but they are missing Enzo, Palmer and Caicedo.

Since I'm a bit of a stat nerd, I took a look at our games vs the midtable sides last season (8th-13th). At home 0-1 vs Brighton 1-4 vs Bournemouth 2-1 vs Brentford 1-3 vs Fulham 5-0 vs Palace 0-1 vs Everton 2-0-4, 9-10, 6 pts Away 1-1 vs Brighton 1-1 vs Bournemouth 2-4 vs Brentford 1-2 vs Fulham 1-1 vs Palace 0-0 vs Everton 0-4-2, 6-9, 4 pts Total: 2-4-6, 15-19, 10pts That's 10 points from 12 games. Shouldn't be too hard to get more than 10p from these.

The injury situation will only get worse the longer into the season we get. 3 injuries is very little. We are weak at the fullbacks, but pretty much full strength elsewhere. Brighton has more injuries than us.

Didn't we also win a very high amount of the games vs bottom 7? Like every game, maybe except 1? Edit: Won every game vs bottom 6. A win and a loss against West Ham at 14th.

Rice g/a at West Ham Rice g/a at Arsenal

He also started several games at the start of that season, with everyone except Willock fit. I think Howe really fancied him at that point. Just bad luck.

I know a Forest fan, and he was asking me why on earth we sold him just 2 months into his spell at Forest. In his last spell here he had just been out for 5 months, so he wasn't up to speed yet, but he was promising before that injury. I think the injury fucked us, and since we didn't get the proof of breakthrough yet, it was more convenient to sell potensial than a key player. It's understandable given the dire situation. I doubt Howe was happy about having to let him go, even at the time.

From a quick look at some other forums of the top teams, he is getting praise there aswell. We are actually more sceptical here. If he is overrated, that means that he's overrated in general, and not by us because we sold him.

Funny how Ratcliffe is so against it. Didn't think that a club who is on the brink of going bust would worry about not being allowed to spend insane amounts of money.

Weren't we after Wissa before Isak started throwing a tantrum? I think Wolte was brought in due to Isak leaving. The point is that it took a long time for us to replace Wilson and Longstaff, and we didn't exactly replace them with players that will grow in value. It's not necessarily meant as a criticism of the window, it's a discussion of the prospect of whether selling players at peak value is something we should be doing, and imo it's not worth it if we are only going to replace them with other players at peak value anyways. The window proved how finding replacements isn't that easy for us (currently). Especially finding replacements that could grow a lot in value.

The problem is getting replacements. We saw this summer how challenging that apparently is for us, especially in a position where we already need a player before the sale. We struggled to replace Longstaff, ended up paying 40m for an injury prone Ramsey, and now we are still light on midfielders. Then you have the whole Wissa saga with a big money deal last minute. If we are going to sell players like Joelinton and Barnes to improve our PSR situation, it's only really good if we also manage to get a good value deal for the replacement.