January window targets

[rocksammy]

Edmilson

Van Der Vaart

 

 

easily obtainable if you want to splash the cash and great additions to the squad, i only see edmilson coming myself. Sam will pick up an old playmaker on a free/bosmon next year ROFL

[sparta]

cant see why everyone thinks riise is a pile of dog crap.

he is a fucking cunt, everyone knows that. but as a footballer, man, he cant be that bad. at least not for that price! (around 6m£)

proven player for several years,still young, gets rarely injured, scores goals out of nowhere in important matches, quality attackin LB, dough questionable defending LB.

also a versatile player (playable at LB and LW at least!)

as many fear the babayaro factor  (as do i)  i wouldnt mind seeing him here! except from the cunt status...

i fear a lot of responses now 

but a opinion none the less  :parky:

[Colos Short and Curlies]

Anelka to replace Owen (who I have an inkling may end up at YouTube City).

 

Could play alongside either Martins, Dukes or Smith or on his own.

 

Will probably score more than Owen over a season if he was in a comparable team as he will play more often.

 

Failing that Messi would be nice

[Yorkie]

Milner was average by a decent clubs standard last year. In our team he looked like a decent player amongst a shower of s****. Certainly no pearl.

Zog? Score? Create?. Apart from that. f*** all.

over how long ?does that mean last christmas you were saying the opposite of what you are now saying.

 

if you think milner should be replaced then i can't understand why you don't think n'zogbia shouldn't be replaced, both players have similar potential and at least milner doesn't become more of a hinderance but keeps working when it's not going for him.

 

i agree with dropping milner right now,like i said drop n'zogbia last year.

N'Zogbia has the tools Milner will never have. No lover of hard work without talent. Prefer a lazy b****** like Robert or Petrov to Milner any day. He simply doesnt have it. N'Zogbia is not going to be great either but has an awful lot more going for him than Milner.

Nb: No I wasnt saying the opposite last xmas. Was that the last time James played well? He certainly did ok then. Nothing then told he shouldn't be replaced though.

i don't see what n'zogbia has done in his time here to rate him any better then milner.

Just ability. Milner doesn't have the tools.

My main concerns with Milner:

His technique isn't great. (zog has a better touch and ability on the ball) 

His crossing is patchy (as is Zogs but he can whip a ball and Milner can't do it as well)

He has below average Premiership pace (Zog isnt lightning but he has above average pace)

Both are strong but Zog is more aggressive.

 

Both decent squad players.

milners technique is as good,i'd say he's better dribbling than n'zog and gets past his man more.

milners crossing is as good as n'zogbia's

milner can play well on either side

n'zogbia has a better eye for goal

milners defends better from midfield then n'zogbia but n'zogbia makes an adequate full back.

 

both decent squad players with potential.

Hehehe I've never read so much rubbish in one post as this even your best line "Nzogbia has a better eye for goal" is not quit correct either..N'Zogbia has GREAT eye for goal compared to Milner...

 

Madras has says fuck all wrong.

 

He's slow, but he beats his man frequently.

His crossing is erratic, just like N'Zogbia's.

He can play well on either side.

'N'Zogbia has a better eye for goal', i think is the only thing i'd disagree with. More preditory instinct in the box, maybe. See the Derby game for N'Zogbia's so called 'great eye for goal'.

Milner does defend better from the wing position.

 

[Lotus]

Don't agree with that last bit Yorkie, remember Zoggy intercepting passes from the oppostions midf going to their right winger. I think Zoggy tracks back quite well (Souness era).

[Mowen]

milners technique is as good,i'd say he's better dribbling than n'zog and gets past his man more.

milners crossing is as good as n'zogbia's

milner can play well on either side

n'zogbia has a better eye for goal

milners defends better from midfield then n'zogbia but n'zogbia makes an adequate full back.

 

both decent squad players with potential.

Hehehe I've never read so much rubbish in one post as this even your best line "Nzogbia has a better eye for goal" is not quit correct either..N'Zogbia has GREAT eye for goal compared to Milner...

 

Madras has says fuck all wrong.

 

He's slow, but he beats his man frequently.

His crossing is erratic, just like N'Zogbia's.

He can play well on either side.

'N'Zogbia has a better eye for goal', i think is the only thing i'd disagree with. More preditory instinct in the box, maybe. See the Derby game for N'Zogbia's so called 'great eye for goal'.

Milner does defend better from the wing position.

 

 

On the other hand, Zog's pace and ability to drive with the ball stretches the game more, scares opponents and generally increases our likelihood of scoring. An in-form Zog would offer more than an in form Milner, imo, mainly because of this reason, whether or not he directly contributes more than Jimmy does.

[Guest Dev]

Why so many people wanting to sign left backs?

 

Well... Babayaro is rubbish and always injured, without him we only have N'Zogbia who isn't a left back.  Rather have him running towards defenders than marking the oppositions wingers.  Also, if we are in the position where N'Zogbia, Babayaro and Enrique are out... we are screwed! (and this is easily possible given how bad our injuries have been over the years!).

 

Actually just if Zoggy and Enrique are out, we're screwed. Possibly moreso if Baba manages to drag himself out onto the field.

[tmonkey]

Edgar should be able to provide adequate last ditch backup at left back.

[Jamie]

Well one player i certianly don't want to see here is Jussi Jaskalienen (sp)

[Kev]

Well one player i certianly don't want to see here is Jussi Jaskalienen (sp)

 

i agree, he is the biggest pile of shite...used to be good though

[Guest BigSamsBarmyArmy]

A right winger is needed for us. Hopefully we can get someone like N'Gog or SWP.

[Guest Knightrider]

Money permitting of course...

 

In

 

Anelka - The Frenchman can play in Sam's preferred 4-3-3, up top on his own or down the flanks as he sometimes did for Arsenal and Liverpool and indeed for Bolton at times. He's quick, he's a goalscorer and his all-round game is far superior than either of Owen or Martins' game. I can't see Bolton hanging onto him for much longer and I reckon Big Sam would rather have someone like Anelka over Owen or Martins and as such if his purchase meant losing one of them I wouldn't say no to it.

 

Diouf - He can play on either flank, up front as a striker or just off a main striker. He's quick, tricky and can carry the ball. He's also a team player and a real goal threat. He already wants out of Bolton and rumour has it we were interested in him back in the summer but couldn't thrash out a deal with Bolton. I expect us to put a bid in for him in January as Big Sam rates him highly. He'd be a fantastic signing all-round and along with Anelka would transform us going forward.

 

Out

 

Owen - Great finisher but he will always be a liability due to his injury concerns and of all our strikers he for me is the least suited to 4-3-3 and because he's not getting any younger, I'd cut our losses and pass on the burden he has become to some other club. We don't really need Owen now, or rather such an individual who needs the team built around him. Not when for £10-12m we could buy a much more suited striker with more qualities in someone like Anelka.

 

That would be my main deals of the window. After that )following windows) we can then look at that creative playmaker for the middle and more squad depth at full-back as well as a genuine top-class centre-back of good age.

 

A player like Diouf would add a bundle of creativity and spark to our play without the need for a specialist playmaker, especially as we'll have Emre and Barton fit (you hope) in the middle. Our whol team and the way we play will change dramatically with Anelka and Diouf on board who would bring class, pace, flair and goals to the team, plus the experience of having already worked with Big Sam thus knowing his methods and being able to deliver them.

 

Team

 

Shay

Beye Faye Cacapa Enrique

Barton Geremi Emre

Diouf Anelka N'Zogbia

 

 

[STM]

I'd take Anelka in a flash.

 

I'd also take the talent of Diouf and in some respects the attitude but the other side of Diouf would hold me back.

 

I also think Sam will be thinking along your lines HTT.

[Martin Lol]

FWIW Spurs are close to agreeing a deal for Russian captain Andrei Arshavin.  Comolli flies to Russia tomorrow to finalise details.  Don't know how their transfer window impacts on ours, the Russian season ends in a months time (11th November) and their window is then open.

[Disco]

i imagine he'd be allowed to join Spurs but not play competitive matches unless he becomes a free agent.

[Baggio]

I like James Milner, but he's not in young Charlie's class imo.

 

How people can't see this is beyond me.

[Guest exilim]

Anelka will be good but we know he will be gone the season after next if we aren't in europe. So lets just stick with Owen for now and get diouf in on the flanks of 4-3-3.

 

Since our policy now is to develope young talents, might as well take Kerlon Foquinha and let him perform his seal dribble on the sunderland defenders.

[Guest jamesmartinsmith]

I'd love to see Quaresma in on the right side of our midfield. Almost impossible though ...

[Yorkie]

We don't really need Owen now

 

Rubbish tbh.

 

How many games this season, with our style of play, are we going to be deadlocked against a beatable side for 85 minutes? It's already been the case in four of the matches this season, two of which Owen was out of shape and we ultimately drew (Boro and Villa). The other two games i'm thinking of are Wigan and Everton, where Owen was on form and scored what were both ultimately very late winners in both. See what i'm saying.

 

We need Owen more than we need a lot of players. It's the Shearers and the Owens who win you those games, not (as much as i like him) the likes of Martins and Anelka.

 

If the striking department is tampered with in January, i'll be pretty annoyed tbh. Needless, absolutely needless.

 

(Wouldn't be too fussed if Shola were to leave, though)

[sparta]

FWIW Spurs are close to agreeing a deal for Russian captain Andrei Arshavin.  Comolli flies to Russia tomorrow to finalise details.  Don't know how their transfer window impacts on ours, the Russian season ends in a months time (11th November) and their window is then open.

 

they wont get arshavin with an bid of 12m£ at least... very underrated player in my opinion! been world class for long, but forgotten becouse he doesnt play in any of the majour leagues

[Guest Knightrider]

We don't really need Owen now

 

Rubbish tbh.

 

How many games this season, with our style of play, are we going to be deadlocked against a beatable side for 85 minutes? It's already been the case in four of the matches this season, two of which Owen was out of shape and we ultimately drew (Boro and Villa). The other two games i'm thinking of are Wigan and Everton, where Owen was on form and scored what were both ultimately very late winners in both. See what i'm saying.

 

We need Owen more than we need a lot of players. It's the Shearers and the Owens who win you those games, not (as much as i like him) the likes of Martins and Anelka.

 

If the striking department is tampered with in January, i'll be pretty annoyed tbh. Needless, absolutely needless.

 

(Wouldn't be too fussed if Shola were to leave, though)

 

Of course we need him now because the transfer window is shut but long-term? We don't in my opinion. We need someone who is a better all-round player who can play in a number of roles and alongside a number of options who won't miss large chunks of the season.

[Yorkie]

We don't really need Owen now

 

Rubbish tbh.

 

How many games this season, with our style of play, are we going to be deadlocked against a beatable side for 85 minutes? It's already been the case in four of the matches this season, two of which Owen was out of shape and we ultimately drew (Boro and Villa). The other two games i'm thinking of are Wigan and Everton, where Owen was on form and scored what were both ultimately very late winners in both. See what i'm saying.

 

We need Owen more than we need a lot of players. It's the Shearers and the Owens who win you those games, not (as much as i like him) the likes of Martins and Anelka.

 

If the striking department is tampered with in January, i'll be pretty annoyed tbh. Needless, absolutely needless.

 

(Wouldn't be too fussed if Shola were to leave, though)

 

Of course we need him now because the transfer window is shut but long-term? We don't in my opinion. We need someone who is a better all-round player Why? We have those players in the squad, and if we were to bring another one in, it should be a midfielder. Owen is a bigger asset than Anelka cos with Owen, there's always a 100% chance you will score in the respective game; his all-round play is pretty fecking good anyhow!

 

who can play in a number of roles Why? A striker's a striker and we've got a squad of very good ones as it is.

 

and alongside a number of options I'd wager that Owen really is so good, that he'll play with any one of our strikers (in a 4-4-2) and be effective.

 

who won't miss large chunks of the season. I'll give you that one, but who's to say he will anyway?

[tmonkey]

We don't really need Owen now

 

Rubbish tbh.

 

How many games this season, with our style of play, are we going to be deadlocked against a beatable side for 85 minutes? It's already been the case in four of the matches this season, two of which Owen was out of shape and we ultimately drew (Boro and Villa). The other two games i'm thinking of are Wigan and Everton, where Owen was on form and scored what were both ultimately very late winners in both. See what i'm saying.

 

We need Owen more than we need a lot of players. It's the Shearers and the Owens who win you those games, not (as much as i like him) the likes of Martins and Anelka.

 

If the striking department is tampered with in January, i'll be pretty annoyed tbh. Needless, absolutely needless.

 

(Wouldn't be too fussed if Shola were to leave, though)

 

Of course we need him now because the transfer window is shut but long-term? We don't in my opinion. We need someone who is a better all-round player who can play in a number of roles and alongside a number of options who won't miss large chunks of the season.

 

That description fits someone perfectly. Either him, Eidur or Huntelaar. The first two must be logical targets considering theyve played under Big Sam before and are in pretty undesirable situations for players of their calibre.

[Yorkie]

I spit at those who'd rather Anelka over Owen.

[Guest Knightrider]

We don't really need Owen now

 

Rubbish tbh.

 

How many games this season, with our style of play, are we going to be deadlocked against a beatable side for 85 minutes? It's already been the case in four of the matches this season, two of which Owen was out of shape and we ultimately drew (Boro and Villa). The other two games i'm thinking of are Wigan and Everton, where Owen was on form and scored what were both ultimately very late winners in both. See what i'm saying.

 

We need Owen more than we need a lot of players. It's the Shearers and the Owens who win you those games, not (as much as i like him) the likes of Martins and Anelka.

 

If the striking department is tampered with in January, i'll be pretty annoyed tbh. Needless, absolutely needless.

 

(Wouldn't be too fussed if Shola were to leave, though)

 

Of course we need him now because the transfer window is shut but long-term? We don't in my opinion. We need someone who is a better all-round player Why? We have those players in the squad, and if we were to bring another one in, it should be a midfielder. Owen is a bigger asset than Anelka cos with Owen, there's always a 100% chance you will score in the respective game; his all-round play is pretty fecking good anyhow!

 

who can play in a number of roles Why? A striker's a striker and we've got a squad of very good ones as it is.

 

and alongside a number of options I'd wager that Owen really is so good, that he'll play with any one of our strikers (in a 4-4-2) and be effective.

 

who won't miss large chunks of the season. I'll give you that one, but who's to say he will anyway?

 

Anelka will create more chances and prove a bigger goal threat, that may not translate into lots of goals for him as an individual (although he'll grab his fair share) but it would for others which can't be said of Owen. In short while one is undeniably the better finisher and therefore likely to score the more goals, the other is likewise undeniably the better all-round player especially within the context of a team unit and therefore more of an asset to the team. In my opinion anyway. I'd swap in a heartbeat. I'd also swap for Martins begrudgingly.