The College Dropout Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Honesty is the number one thing I want from our manager. I'd just like him to be attack minded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 He's refreshingly honest, next thing we need is for him to act upon the obvious faults in the team and personnel! If he does half of what we are suggesting this weekend then I'm happy with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Honesty is the number one thing I want from our manager. http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/John+Carver+Cardiff+City+v+Newcastle+United+ymrUDUoOZa4l.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I don't think he set up on Monday to be defensive, tbf. He set us up quite positively, in terms of shape, and I reckon he wanted us to keep the ball, get the game as wide as possible and work openings patiently. I think some players just didn't turn up (it's quite a new set up for them, tbf, we've only played in that sort of style against Southampton) and he got 1 key position wrong. It's still really early days with how he wants us to play and it looks like they've worked on a few different shapes and tactics, so they've likely not mastered anything and there will be teething problems. Player movement going forward is a big issue but I've heard that's Cathro's domain and I'm sure it'll improve the more it gets worked on. I'm guessing he wants us to generally end up like this: http://www.zonalmarking.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/modern-centre-half.gif If that's the plan, he really should play Ayoze in one of those AM spots, as well as sorting out the obvious Colback/Anita problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I don't think slow patient football is suited to our club as a whole. Nor its individual players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I don't think slow patient football is suited to our club as a whole. Nor its individual players. For home games, I agree that the football must be quicker. Southampton was better for passing with a bit more speed and incision and people would be OK with consistent performances of that ilk (assuming we improve speeding up play in the final third). I think this is a viable strategy for some away games, though, and an attacking midfield 3 of Thauvin, de Jong and Perez would be suited to it with Mitrovic ahead of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I don't think slow patient football is suited to our club as a whole. Nor its individual players. I don't think it's suited to English football full stop. The pitches aren't big enough here, you get closed down if you fanny about on the ball too long. The passing has to be quick and zippy, I don't know any side that plays slow patient football in the premier. The ones that do won't do very well. I Think that's Chelsea's problem at the moment, they look sluggish compared to last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Honesty is the number one thing I want from our manager. http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/John+Carver+Cardiff+City+v+Newcastle+United+ymrUDUoOZa4l.jpg That fucking gooch wouldn't know the definition of honesty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I don't think slow patient football is suited to our club as a whole. Nor its individual players. I don't think it's suited to English football full stop. The pitches aren't big enough here, you get closed down if you fanny about on the ball too long. The passing has to be quick and zippy, I don't know any side that plays slow patient football in the premier. The ones that do won't do very well. I Think that's Chelsea's problem at the moment, they look sluggish compared to last season. Man Utd are slogging away with it at the moment. I think Swansea played like that for awhile under Brendan. But I agree with your sentiment. In our big stadium and average team we need exciting, fast football at the very least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Lee Ryder @lee_ryder 2m2 minutes ago Steve McClaren says he is "absolutely tempted" to make changes against Watford after #whufc #nufc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Lee Ryder @lee_ryder 2m2 minutes ago Steve McClaren says he is "absolutely tempted" to make changes against Watford after #whufc #nufc Do it Baldy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Lee Ryder @lee_ryder 2m2 minutes ago Steve McClaren says he is "absolutely tempted" to make changes against Watford after #whufc #nufc He fucking better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Absolutely............ tempted.............. wow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Don't just say tempted ffs. Be decisive and say i'm making changes because they are shit. If Perez doesn't start and Wijnaldum isn't dropped to centre mid at the very least then he has learned absolutely nothing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmattis Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 That means he won't do anything close to what supporters wants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Absolutely............ tempted.............. wow So decisive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Hopefully that quote is classic manager attention diverting and he's already decided to make changes. If there aren't at least 3 changes from West Ham I'm honestly going to start getting very concerned about this guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Absolutely............ tempted.............. wow So decisive. He would get so much credit if he changed it with Perez, Aarons and Dr Jong starting and Anita, Wijnaldum in centre. Starting to think the back 4 is fine. Drop Cisse and Colback and Sissoko. Put Thauvin right and Aarons left Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 The only things that is a must to me is dropping one of the CM's and playing Ayoze. Ideally we would go 4-3-3 too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Thauvin was worse than Sissoko on Monday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Thauvin was worse than Sissoko on Monday. One is new, the other has had a fair few of those games and is definitely not a winger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Thauvin was worse than Sissoko on Monday. Sissoko was our best starting player out of the entire midfield and Cisse, not exactly a keenly contested prize but wanting him dropped based on the performance in the last game in comparison to others is strange Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 The only things that is a must to me is dropping one of the CM's and playing Ayoze. Ideally we would go 4-3-3 too. Well yeah, Colback and Anita can't start together unless absolutely necessary but Perez needs to play up front when Mitro is out. Cisse is so anonymous and can't hold up play. We know at very least Perez is a pain for defenders. De Jong should maybe start then with Wijnaldum dropping Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I'd stick with Sissoko personally. But in a 4-3-3. Like I said I can forgive anything except Colback + ANita midfield with no Ayoze. Even Cisse starting. And after much consideration, he was the worst man on the pitch on Monday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Would rather Ayoze somewhere in midfield/AM if it meant getting him on the ball constantly + one of our carthorse strikers ahead of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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