Kanji Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Most premier league managers are bog standard shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 A lot of unjust McClaren hate here. Has a better CV than most premier league managers. There's little hate from what I've seen. People just recognize that he's a 5/10 manager and we can do better. We very nearly did do better in January with Garde when we were barely trying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Most premier league managers are bog standard shit Having gone through them I count 13 good (or better) managers in the PL. The rest are mostly pretty poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Most premier league managers are bog standard s*** Having gone through them I count 13 good (or better) managers in the PL. The rest are mostly pretty poor. If you think McClaren is a 5/10, then the 13 you've counted are probably 5.5-6+ / 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Well the one who was borderline was Tony Pulis, and he's much better than SM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Agreed, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I'd take a chance on an unknown name from the lower divisions over a fucking bore like McClaren, man. Nothing remotely exciting about him. "But, But...he's better than Carver" isn't good enough to just say OK either, ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Pulis is obviously good at what he does, but I just could never bring myself to calling him a good manager. Just look at how pathetic West Brom were when they played us, under a "good" manager they win that game fairly easily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 they were probably never out of 3rd gear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 They looked fucking gone before he came in, man. They've totally avoided the relegation 'battle'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaron Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Apponting a manager who has been sacked by a championship club............its so us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Apponting a manager who has been sacked by a championship club............its so us It's a step up from appointing a manager that was just sacked by a League 1 club, I suppose. #ambition #wait Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I'd take a chance on an unknown name from the lower divisions over a fucking bore like McClaren, man. Nothing remotely exciting about him. "But, But...he's better than Carver" isn't good enough to just say OK either, ever. Yep. Every day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 #wait :lol: Man that whole concept infuriated me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 How is Pulis "better" than McClaren? Pulis has won fuck all and his playing style/football philosophy is way worse than McClaren's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 McClaren's so wet he won't even insist on having his own backroom staff. Carver will be sat there next to him in the dugout like a decrepit bulldog. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 the positives of mcclaren are he isnt carver, he's won a trophy here and abroad (and whatever anyone says give boro their best period in history), and he will also bring proper bona fide coaches with him (steele, round). erm, after that......... bottom line is, nobody will be vitriolic towards him, just apathetic because we could have done so much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 or,as Tron says, he may be such a fanny he wont insist on his own men, which renders the whole thing largely pointless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 McClaren is a bit of a wuss that's for sure. But here's the thing. I could never imagine him ditching the likes of Ben Arfa, Marveaux, Santon or Yanga-Mbiwa. He would have kept them and used them. For me that is already a huge win. We get some decent talent in, we just need someone with the humility to just let them play for the love of the almighty! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I'd take a chance on an unknown name from the lower divisions over a f***ing bore like McClaren, man. Nothing remotely exciting about him. "But, But...he's better than Carver" isn't good enough to just say OK either, ever. Not sure the lower leagues are dripping with exciting, attacking-minded managers. Chances are we'd end up with another Carver (or Pardew, who we picked up from League 1). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 How is Pulis "better" than McClaren? Pulis has won fuck all and his playing style/football philosophy is way worse than McClaren's. McClaren's style isn't pretty either (by anyone's definition) and he won the League Cup and the Eredivise. So what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I'd take a chance on an unknown name from the lower divisions over a fucking bore like McClaren, man. Nothing remotely exciting about him. "But, But...he's better than Carver" isn't good enough to just say OK either, ever. That's an argument I will never, ever understand. Towards the end of the Lambert reign, lots of our fans were calling for all sorts of fucking stupid stuff - "get Pulis in! He'll keep us up!" "Try to get Allardyce in", and whenever challenged, the answer was always "better than Lambert" Utterly meaningless, in that situation and in this one too. Almost everyone on here believes Carver is absolutely useless and hugely out of his depth. That alone means that "better than Carver" is a totally worthless justification. If Carver is as shit as he seems to be, how is being "better" than him a meaningful argument? Wouldn't it be possible to be better than Carver AND still be absolutely fucking hopeless? Why would anyone want that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 How is Pulis "better" than McClaren? Pulis has won f*** all and his playing style/football philosophy is way worse than McClaren's. McClaren's style isn't pretty either (by anyone's definition) and he won the League Cup and the Eredivise. So what? Again: How is Pulis better than McClaren? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I'd take a chance on an unknown name from the lower divisions over a fucking bore like McClaren, man. Nothing remotely exciting about him. "But, But...he's better than Carver" isn't good enough to just say OK either, ever. That's an argument I will never, ever understand. Towards the end of the Lambert reign, lots of our fans were calling for all sorts of fucking stupid stuff - "get Pulis in! He'll keep us up!" "Try to get Allardyce in", and whenever challenged, the answer was always "better than Lambert" Utterly meaningless, in that situation and in this one too. Almost everyone on here believes Carver is absolutely useless and hugely out of his depth. That alone means that "better than Carver" is a totally worthless justification. If Carver is as shit as he seems to be, how is being "better" than him a meaningful argument? Wouldn't it be possible to be better than Carver AND still be absolutely fucking hopeless? Why would anyone want that? Because the alternative might be Carver? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 For the players we get in at the moment it would have to be McClaren over Pulis for me. Pulis is currently playing 4 centre backs in his back line. He would line up with Colo at right back, Saylor and Willo at centre back, and Dummett at left back. I don't even want to imagine wht he'd do with midfield and attack! McClaren would at least put our more talented players out on the pitch and try to find positions for them that work. Moreso than Pulis anyway. Pulis started Anichebe over Berahino at our place, and had the likes of Morrison on the bench man. To me those are their two best players! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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