Dave Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Next thread - The Unseen Priority - Stadium expansion The unseen priority - new ownership! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Spurs_from_Africa Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Tell you what, how about a straight swap? Robinson and Cerny for Given and Harper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 I agree that a new keeper is not a priority but I sort of know where this thread came from. I don't think Given is as good as some people make out, a very good shot stopper, decision making OK but not too much prescence in the box. Saying that I also don't think this is a great time for goalkeepers as there are not too many out there who have a good solid all round game. Actually related to this, you see people like Parker, Duff, Shaun Wright Phillips, Johnson leaving or being linked with a move away from Chelsea, but I'm amazed that no one has ever gone in for Cudicini. Not sure if this says more about him being happy to get his money or Chelsea not wanting him to leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SLK Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 I don't think there are many better goalies than Given and Harper that are AVAILABLE AND NOT AT BIG CLUBS... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ridzuan Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 I have to disagree with you on this.I think we have two top keepers at our club right now,maybe 2 more in the making.Stop comparing them with Cech or anyone else.If we get all the Chelsea defenders playing for us and all of our defenders playing for them,that would be interesting to watch.But of course when it comes to conceding goals,the keeper always get most of the blame and the rest of the team who also take responsibility are not being questioned.So I think its unfair to say that Given and Harper is no the kind of goalkeeper that we need to have in order to take to the level that we want because I think they always give their best whenever they are chosen to start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 I can't think of any area of the team which needs less attention than the who stands between the sticks. http://www.coasolutions.com/images/specsaversRedorDead%20Glasses.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toptoon Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 I can't think of any area of the team which needs less attention than the who stands between the sticks. Coulden't agree more with Mick, who has hit the nail on the head. This thread is utter cobblers imo. i woulden't swap Given and harper for No.1 and No.2 at any club and certainly not for Jaaskelainen. Swap Given for Jaaskelainen??? Are you completely mad? A Wind up merchant or an undercover mackem? As mick says its probably the area that concerns me least at the moment. Krul looks at really bright prospect too!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 The only priority situation we have concerning keepers, is to make sure we do not lose Tim Krul, going to be a top top keeper that young lad is!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpinho Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 As Goalkeeper is obviously not even close to being a priority and is a frankly ridiculous suggestion, what position do people think should be the main priority? I would probably go for attacking midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 As Goalkeeper is obviously not even close to being a priority and is a frankly ridiculous suggestion, what position do people think should be the main priority? I would probably go for attacking midfield. Draw a line infront of Butt/Geremi, exclude the left wing and there is your priotiy area. Attacking midfield, right wing and centre forwards (personally I think we potentially have a dynamic front line in Oba/Smith/Dukes/Owen but they obviously (so far) aint suited to Sams style of play) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stout Heart Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Living abroad I don't get the chance to visit SJP very often. Watching on the television I don't see the whole pitch. The result is I don't get to see where Given and Harper stand when the ball is played into the penalty box. So here's a couple of questions/scenarios: 1. Newcastle concede a free kick on the half way line. Where are Given/Harper standing when the ball is kicked? Are they on their line or are they further forward? Are other Premier League goalies standing in the same position? 2. Opposition winger crosses from the byline swinging the ball away from goal. Where are Given/Harper standing when the ball is kicked? Are they on their line or are they further forward? Are other Premier League goalies standing in the same position? I'm not making a judgment here, I'm just trying to get some information. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nguyen Van Falk Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 How is Krul doing at Falkirk these days? not brilliantly, and even talking about him in this thread at his age is stupid. Falkirk have conceded 25 in 12. he did well in his first game, but conceded 4 against celtic then 7 against rangers not long after. 4 clean sheets so far, but according to soccernet he's made 72 saves in all competitions, a respectable total (although i think they are a bit liberal with what they classify as saves (coming for crosses counts to them i think)) and made a total of 21 "saves" in the 2 games against the old firm, which ties in what i heard at the time that it was diabolical defending that cost them the 7-2 defeat, not really bad keeping. He's the only thing stopping them from drubbing in most matches tbh, their defence is abismal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 I like Harper but to call him a top class shot stopper is bordering on ridiculous to be honest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 We finished 3rd, 4th and 5th with Shay in net, how can we not get back to that level with him, he has already been there and done that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 We finished 3rd, 4th and 5th with Shay in net, how can we not get back to that level with him, he has already been there and done that. we finished 3rd, 4th and 5th with Andy O'Brien, let's get him back Teddy Sheringham, been there and done that, let's sign him too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 We finished 3rd, 4th and 5th with Shay in net, how can we not get back to that level with him, he has already been there and done that. we finished 3rd, 4th and 5th with Andy O'Brien, let's get him back Teddy Sheringham, been there and done that, let's sign him too Slight difference between O'Brien and Shay tbh. Shay single handedly won us alot of games to get us in that league position mainly thanks to O'Briens and Brambles silly mistakes. theres also a difference between a bit of experience and an OAP, Shay is only 32, Sheringham 41, whats wrong with Shay proving himself as a champions league keeper, as he has done, hence 'been there done that'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliemort Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 This is riduclous!I dont understand peoples thinking!Given is a top keeper,hes proved it for many seasons! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 This is riduclous!I dont understand peoples thinking!Given is a top keeper,hes proved it for many seasons! .. he had two injuries man, he's finished.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin99. Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 I can only come to the conclusion that Given must have run over a number of poeple's loved pets for him to receive the amount of criticism mentioned here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chizzletooth Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 People who don't rate Given, do not understand football. Someone needs to make a youtube compilation of all his miraculous saves over the years, since this is clearly how his critics make their judgements on football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 ...and not post it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chizzletooth Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 Obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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