midds Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Harper out. Jussi in. Baffles me how anyone could possibly rate Harper above Jussi or Given. i doubt jussi would come as a back up Concurred, but Harper has been happy to sit on the bench for 7 years. Rather Jussi than harper tbh. He'd provide competition at least... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Harper out. Jussi in. Baffles me how anyone could possibly rate Harper above Jussi or Given. i doubt jussi would come as a back up Concurred, but Harper has been happy to sit on the bench for 7 years. Rather Jussi than harper tbh. He'd provide competition at least... yes but harper is "home" so is happy.to be honest the keepers are the least of our worries so far,neither are the players. the formations and tactics have me shit scared week after week . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 No chance of selling Harper, unless its to bench warm at the scum or boro. He's already proven he's happy to sit on his ass here. Sell Given (£8m) bring in Jussi on a free. Given is a great shot stopper but doesn't have any leadership skills. I think Jussi could end up at Manure/Arsenal/Spurs as well tho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danswan Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Talk about exaggerate, he's not that good and he's been injury prone for the last 18 months, how can you rely on someone like that? wHAT?Ok whose being better besides Cech?Ya since the star trek fucker nearly killed him!I would,he has being out for any serious amount of time!Im confident that Sam and his team can sort it! Sorry if I'm being dim. Star Trek fucker? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Talk about exaggerate, he's not that good and he's been injury prone for the last 18 months, how can you rely on someone like that? wHAT?Ok whose being better besides Cech?Ya since the star trek fucker nearly killed him!I would,he has being out for any serious amount of time!Im confident that Sam and his team can sort it! Sorry if I'm being dim. Star Trek fucker? Think he means Lescott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Replacing Given with Jussi would be beyond stupid, and i don't think it'd really be worth the hassle replacing Harper with him, either. He'd probably cost a bit, and we'd get nowt for Harper. And we don't really need him, and he's older than both of our current ones. Wouldn't be interested, personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Replacing Given with Jussi would be beyond stupid, and i don't think it'd really be worth the hassle replacing Harper with him, either. He'd probably cost a bit, and we'd get nowt for Harper. And we don't really need him, and he's older than both of our current ones. Wouldn't be interested, personally. Jaaskelainen is a far better keeper than Harper though, I can also see the benefits of having him here over Given, the main one being that he comes out and collects crosses quite easily where as Given usually stays rooted to his line. With Given having become injury prone over the past 18 months we would be stupid not to strengthen that area of the pitch with a free transfer as good as him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 I'd definetly do it. Bring in Jussi on a free, sell Given for £6m and use the £6m to strengthen other areas. Given isn't anything special, especially after his injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 jussi has been shite this season, shouldve saved lots of shots and he also spills quite a bit used to think he was class but hes changed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Talk about exaggerate, he's not that good and he's been injury prone for the last 18 months, how can you rely on someone like that? wHAT?Ok whose being better besides Cech?Ya since the star trek fucker nearly killed him!I would,he has being out for any serious amount of time!Im confident that Sam and his team can sort it! Sorry if I'm being dim. Star Trek fucker? Think he means Lescott Harewood? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimistic nit Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 I'm not really interested in what he's done for Ireland, he's been poor for us all season though and didn't deserve to get his place back from Harper, i'm not sure why he's playing for Ireland in a pointless match either when he's been on the sick for us. Jussi was the best keeper in the Premiership last year imo and I'd happily have him here. he's playd 4 games only conceded 7 as well, not exactly terrible, and he could do nowt for the 3 scored by citeh for starters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimistic nit Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 shows how much loyalty you get up here doesn't it. our best player for nigh on 10 years yet you get a couple of injuries and a couple of average performances (no worse than anything harper produced during his games) and you're shit, we want rid. 2 years ago how many of us were shit scared he'd hand in a transfer request and fuck off to arsenal? i'm ashamed and embarrassed at the shortness of our memories tbh, best fans in the league, as if, "nothing special" try sayingg that 2 years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toptoon Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Can't actually believe that some on here preffer Jaaskelainen to Given Yes lets fuck up the one area of the team that is actually world class and fuck it up to match the rest of the team Great idea lads If Big Sam does this and it backfires on us as expected then he deserves the sack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Given could certainly use some competition, and we most certainly could do with the cover, Harper is average at best, i wouldn't mind letting him go for free if we could bring in Jussi for nothing at the end of the season (or possibly a swap to allow the deal to go through in the winter window) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 I heard Given's off to Arsenal in January btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 I'm not really interested in what he's done for Ireland, he's been poor for us all season though and didn't deserve to get his place back from Harper, i'm not sure why he's playing for Ireland in a pointless match either when he's been on the sick for us. Jussi was the best keeper in the Premiership last year imo and I'd happily have him here. he's playd 4 games only conceded 7 as well, not exactly terrible, and he could do nowt for the 3 scored by citeh for starters. He's been poor this season no matter how many games he's played, whether it's putting in his own net against Everton, getting outjumped by Anichebe which nearly cost us a goal, the Cacapa back pass moment where he didn't bother coming to collect, even Andy Johnsons goal where he stayed on his line rather than coming to intercept the cross. He's been average for 18 months and the great saves he used to make are few and far between, the amount of times our back is put under pressure because he doesn't come and collect crosses very often has always been a worry and it's something Allardyce will look to sort. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 shows how much loyalty you get up here doesn't it. our best player for nigh on 10 years yet you get a couple of injuries and a couple of average performances (no worse than anything harper produced during his games) and you're shit, we want rid. 2 years ago how many of us were shit scared he'd hand in a transfer request and fuck off to arsenal? i'm ashamed and embarrassed at the shortness of our memories tbh, best fans in the league, as if, "nothing special" try sayingg that 2 years ago. And it's sentimental bollocks like that that made us suffer watching Shearer plod around for 2 years after his sell by date. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 "With Given having become injury prone over the past 18 months we would be stupid not to strengthen that area of the pitch with a free transfer as good as him" Remind me how many games he has played in the past 18 months. Its like banging your head off a brick wall with some people on here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 He's on a free? Ah, missed that. Yeah - would probably be worth looking into, then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Being older than Shay it'd not exactly be a signing for long would it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 "With Given having become injury prone over the past 18 months we would be stupid not to strengthen that area of the pitch with a free transfer as good as him" Remind me how many games he has played in the past 18 months. Its like banging your head off a brick wall with some people on here How can anyone deny that he's been injury prone, for a goalkeeper anyway, since that Harewood injury?When have Harper and Given EVER had 50%* of the season each since they've both been here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Being older than Shay it'd not exactly be a signing for long would it? Aye, that was one of the reasons that i pointed out for not bothering. But it's different if he's free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toptoon Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 I'm not really interested in what he's done for Ireland, he's been poor for us all season though and didn't deserve to get his place back from Harper, i'm not sure why he's playing for Ireland in a pointless match either when he's been on the sick for us. Jussi was the best keeper in the Premiership last year imo and I'd happily have him here. he's playd 4 games only conceded 7 as well, not exactly terrible, and he could do nowt for the 3 scored by citeh for starters. He's been poor this season no matter how many games he's played, whether it's putting in his own net against Everton, getting outjumped by Anichebe which nearly cost us a goal, the Cacapa back pass moment where he didn't bother coming to collect, even Andy Johnsons goal where he stayed on his line rather than coming to intercept the cross. He's been average for 18 months and the great saves he used to make are few and far between, the amount of times our back is put under pressure because he doesn't come and collect crosses very often has always been a worry and it's something Allardyce will look to sort. Disagree with both your posts. Given has had one bad game and that was Everton, no others and as for slating shearer that's pretty much laughable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Being older than Shay it'd not exactly be a signing for long would it? 32 isn't exactly old for a keeper though, Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 I'm not really interested in what he's done for Ireland, he's been poor for us all season though and didn't deserve to get his place back from Harper, i'm not sure why he's playing for Ireland in a pointless match either when he's been on the sick for us. Jussi was the best keeper in the Premiership last year imo and I'd happily have him here. he's playd 4 games only conceded 7 as well, not exactly terrible, and he could do nowt for the 3 scored by citeh for starters. He's been poor this season no matter how many games he's played, whether it's putting in his own net against Everton, getting outjumped by Anichebe which nearly cost us a goal, the Cacapa back pass moment where he didn't bother coming to collect, even Andy Johnsons goal where he stayed on his line rather than coming to intercept the cross. He's been average for 18 months and the great saves he used to make are few and far between, the amount of times our back is put under pressure because he doesn't come and collect crosses very often has always been a worry and it's something Allardyce will look to sort. Disagree with both your posts. Given has had one bad game and that was Everton, no others and as for slating shearer that's pretty much laughable Perhaps you should watch more football then because Shearer should have retired 2 years before he did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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