James Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 I thought I'd rewatch all our goals this season and see who the people are that are really contributing to our goals this season. Of course, goals and assists are important, but it takes good play to work the ball into positions from which a goal can be created. Thus you get a key contribution if you: Score Assist Win a free kick, corner or penalty that leads to a goal Win back possession and the opponents dont get control of the ball before a goal is scored Pass the ball between possession being won and the goal being scored Force the opposition into making a mistake that leads to a goal. And having tallied up the contributions the table (Premiership only) currently stands at: N'Zogbia 8 (13 games) Geremi 7 (12 games) Martins 6 (13 games) Milner 6 (13 games) Emre 5 (7 games) Owen 5 (10 games) Smith 5 (12 games) Viduka 4 (8 games) Rozehnal 4 (12 games) Butt 3 (12 games) Enrique 3 (7 games) Taylor 2 (9 games) Faye 1 (7 games) Cacapa 1 (9 games) Barton 1 (5 games) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 Geremi? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 Geremi? Signed him this summer, little black bloke, not much hair, tends to wear the captains armband when he's on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 Per game ratio: Emre - 0.71 N'Zogbia - 0.62 Geremi - 0.58 Owen - 0.5 Viduka - 0.5 Martins - 0.46 Milner - 0.46 Enrique - 0.43 Smith - 0.42 Rozehnal - 0.33 Butt - 0.25 Taylor - 0.22 Barton - 0.2 Faye - 0.14 Cacapa - 0.11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 im suprised with geremi being up there he shouldnt be playing for us hes too shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 Completely ridiculous James as usual. You're giving equal weighting to a simple sideways pass in midfield to a goal. Etc. Sort of makes a nonsense of the wole thing and its blatantly just you trying to find something to support your view that Geremi is good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 I read this as 'Kev contributions' and had a post full of nothing ready to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 Completely ridiculous James as usual. You're giving equal weighting to a simple sideways pass in midfield to a goal. Etc. Sort of makes a nonsense of the wole thing and its blatantly just you trying to find something to support your view that Geremi is good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 Completely ridiculous James as usual. You're giving equal weighting to a simple sideways pass in midfield to a goal. Etc. Sort of makes a nonsense of the wole thing and its blatantly just you trying to find something to support your view that Geremi is good. I can tell you that discounting simple sideways passes only deducts 1 from Geremi's total. Most of of his KC's come from good forward passes, usually towards the wide left area. Smith, Rozehnal and Butt would lose out the most from discounting sideways passes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 Completely ridiculous James as usual. You're giving equal weighting to a simple sideways pass in midfield to a goal. Etc. Sort of makes a nonsense of the wole thing and its blatantly just you trying to find something to support your view that Geremi is good. I can tell you that discounting simple sideways passes only deducts 1 from Geremi's total. Most of of his KC's come from good forward passes, usually towards the wide left area. Smith, Rozehnal and Butt would lose out the most from discounting sideways passes. Break it down for me then (Geremi's points). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 KC's? Please don't tell me you've already given your absurdity an acronym. At best it's very subjective. At worst it's a steaming pile of pigshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 I thought I'd rewatch all our goals this season and see who the people are that are really contributing to our goals this season. Of course, goals and assists are important, but it takes good play to work the ball into positions from which a goal can be created. Thus you get a key contribution if you: Score Assist Win a free kick, corner or penalty that leads to a goal Win back possession and the opponents dont get control of the ball before a goal is scored Pass the ball between possession being won and the goal being scored Force the opposition into making a mistake that leads to a goal. And having tallied up the contributions the table (Premiership only) currently stands at: N'Zogbia 8 (13 games) Geremi 7 (12 games) Martins 6 (13 games) Milner 6 (13 games) Emre 5 (7 games) Owen 5 (10 games) Smith 5 (12 games) Viduka 4 (8 games) Rozehnal 4 (12 games) Butt 3 (12 games) Enrique 3 (7 games) Taylor 2 (9 games) Faye 1 (7 games) Cacapa 1 (9 games) Barton 1 (5 games) What a sad little life you lead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 vs Manchester City - Long weighted ball to Martins who controls it and sticks it away vs Middlesbough - Cross to Viduka who turns and slots it in. vs Bolton - Forces LB into mishitting long pass to Martins near half way, who scores via lucky deflection vs Bolton - Through pass from 35 yards out to Smith on left wing who passes short to Milner who is in a better crossing position who crosses for Martins bicycle kick vs Everton - wins 50-50 ball, plays simple pass to N'Zogbia who plays in Smith wide right, Everton struggle to deal with the cross and Butt tucks it home. vs West Ham - wins ball and plays it 35 yards diagonally for N'Zogbia who crosses to Martins vs West Ham - wins ball and plays 15 yards diagonally to N'Zogbia who crosses for Viduka after exchanging a one-two with Milner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 vs Bolton - Forces LB into mishitting long pass to Martins near half way, who scores via lucky deflection vs Bolton - Through pass from 35 yards out to Smith on left wing who passes short to Milner who is in a better crossing position who crosses for Martins bicycle kick vs Everton - wins 50-50 ball, plays simple pass to N'Zogbia who plays in Smith wide right, Everton struggle to deal with the cross and Butt tucks it home. vs West Ham - wins ball and plays it 35 yards diagonally for N'Zogbia who crosses to Martins vs West Ham - wins ball and plays 15 yards diagonally to N'Zogbia who crosses for Viduka after exchanging a one-two with Milner All as good as goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 vs Manchester City - Long weighted ball to Martins who controls it and sticks it away vs Middlesbough - Cross to Viduka who turns and slots it in. vs Bolton - Forces LB into mishitting long pass to Martins near half way, who scores via lucky deflection vs Bolton - Through pass from 35 yards out to Smith on left wing who passes short to Milner who is in a better crossing position who crosses for Martins bicycle kick vs Everton - wins 50-50 ball, plays simple pass to N'Zogbia who plays in Smith wide right, Everton struggle to deal with the cross and Butt tucks it home. vs West Ham - wins ball and plays it 35 yards diagonally for N'Zogbia who crosses to Martins vs West Ham - wins ball and plays 15 yards diagonally to N'Zogbia who crosses for Viduka after exchanging a one-two with Milner Has he not won any throw-ins or corners too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Amy Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 Good thread James. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 vs Bolton - Forces LB into mishitting long pass to Martins near half way, who scores via lucky deflection vs Bolton - Through pass from 35 yards out to Smith on left wing who passes short to Milner who is in a better crossing position who crosses for Martins bicycle kick vs Everton - wins 50-50 ball, plays simple pass to N'Zogbia who plays in Smith wide right, Everton struggle to deal with the cross and Butt tucks it home. vs West Ham - wins ball and plays it 35 yards diagonally for N'Zogbia who crosses to Martins vs West Ham - wins ball and plays 15 yards diagonally to N'Zogbia who crosses for Viduka after exchanging a one-two with Milner All as good as goals. He is not a goalscorer though. None of our central midfielders are really scoring goals, so other variables need to be taken account, and as far as these stats are concerned, Geremi wins the ball in the right places and does something effective with the ball, whereas the same can not be said about Nicky Butt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Amy Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 vs Bolton - Forces LB into mishitting long pass to Martins near half way, who scores via lucky deflection vs Bolton - Through pass from 35 yards out to Smith on left wing who passes short to Milner who is in a better crossing position who crosses for Martins bicycle kick vs Everton - wins 50-50 ball, plays simple pass to N'Zogbia who plays in Smith wide right, Everton struggle to deal with the cross and Butt tucks it home. vs West Ham - wins ball and plays it 35 yards diagonally for N'Zogbia who crosses to Martins vs West Ham - wins ball and plays 15 yards diagonally to N'Zogbia who crosses for Viduka after exchanging a one-two with Milner All as good as goals. He is not a goalscorer though. None of our central midfielders are really scoring goals, so other variables need to be taken account, and as far as these stats are concerned, Geremi wins the ball in the right places and does something effective with the ball, whereas the same can not be said about Nicky Butt. exactly! Love the way Nicky "can do no wrong" Butt gets treated like the messiah these days, when actually he can't pass a ball to save his life and that costs us possession every time. Geremi is actually capable of far more if he raised his game, but he's doing a lot better than Butt overall and far better than some people have been making out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 vs Bolton - Forces LB into mishitting long pass to Martins near half way, who scores via lucky deflection vs Bolton - Through pass from 35 yards out to Smith on left wing who passes short to Milner who is in a better crossing position who crosses for Martins bicycle kick vs Everton - wins 50-50 ball, plays simple pass to N'Zogbia who plays in Smith wide right, Everton struggle to deal with the cross and Butt tucks it home. vs West Ham - wins ball and plays it 35 yards diagonally for N'Zogbia who crosses to Martins vs West Ham - wins ball and plays 15 yards diagonally to N'Zogbia who crosses for Viduka after exchanging a one-two with Milner All as good as goals. He is not a goalscorer though. None of our central midfielders are really scoring goals, so other variables need to be taken account, and as far as these stats are concerned, Geremi wins the ball in the right places and does something effective with the ball, whereas the same can not be said about Nicky Butt. exactly! Love the way Nicky "can do no wrong" Butt gets treated like the messiah these days, when actually he can't pass a ball to save his life and that costs us possession every time. Geremi is actually capable of far more actually if he raised his game, but he doing a lot better than Butt overall and far better than some people have been making out. I'd replace Butt before Geremeee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edd Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 Key Contributions? I'll take a goal line clearance or a last ditch tackle that prevents a goal over a 5 yard sideways pass in midfield thanks. Gotta love shit statistics like this. Isn't that how Sam picks his teams and formations? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elbel1 Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 James Do have a girlfriend? somehow i doubt it very much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 Simple but effective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 More importantly I dont have a job, and its raining, and I'd rather spend my day analysing Newcastle goals than watching Jeremy Kyle and This Morning Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elbel1 Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 Is that a no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 Seriously Allardyce should consider hiring James.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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