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I thought I'd rewatch all our goals this season and see who the people are that are really contributing to our goals this season.

 

Of course, goals and assists are important, but it takes good play to work the ball into positions from which a goal can be created.

 

Thus you get a key contribution if you:

 

Score

Assist

Win a free kick, corner or penalty that leads to a goal

Win back possession and the opponents dont get control of the ball before a goal is scored

Pass the ball between possession being won and the goal being scored

Force the opposition into making a mistake that leads to a goal.

 

And having tallied up the contributions the table (Premiership only) currently stands at:

 

N'Zogbia 8 (13 games)

Geremi 7 (12 games)

Martins 6 (13 games)

Milner 6 (13 games)

Emre 5 (7 games)

Owen 5 (10 games)

Smith 5 (12 games)

Viduka 4 (8 games)

Rozehnal 4 (12 games)

Butt 3 (12 games)

Enrique 3 (7 games)

Taylor 2 (9 games)

Faye 1 (7 games)

Cacapa 1 (9 games)

Barton 1 (5 games)

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Per game ratio:

 

Emre - 0.71

N'Zogbia - 0.62

Geremi - 0.58

Owen - 0.5

Viduka - 0.5

Martins - 0.46

Milner - 0.46

Enrique - 0.43

Smith - 0.42

Rozehnal - 0.33

Butt - 0.25

Taylor - 0.22

Barton - 0.2

Faye - 0.14

Cacapa - 0.11

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Completely ridiculous James as usual. You're giving equal weighting to a simple sideways pass in midfield to a goal. Etc.

 

Sort of makes a nonsense of the wole thing and its blatantly just you trying to find something to support your view that Geremi is good.

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Completely ridiculous James as usual. You're giving equal weighting to a simple sideways pass in midfield to a goal. Etc.

 

Sort of makes a nonsense of the wole thing and its blatantly just you trying to find something to support your view that Geremi is good.

 

:lol:

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Completely ridiculous James as usual. You're giving equal weighting to a simple sideways pass in midfield to a goal. Etc.

 

Sort of makes a nonsense of the wole thing and its blatantly just you trying to find something to support your view that Geremi is good.

 

I can tell you that discounting simple sideways passes only deducts 1 from Geremi's total. Most of of his KC's come from good forward passes, usually towards the wide left area.

 

Smith, Rozehnal and Butt would lose out the most from discounting sideways passes.

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Completely ridiculous James as usual. You're giving equal weighting to a simple sideways pass in midfield to a goal. Etc.

 

Sort of makes a nonsense of the wole thing and its blatantly just you trying to find something to support your view that Geremi is good.

 

I can tell you that discounting simple sideways passes only deducts 1 from Geremi's total. Most of of his KC's come from good forward passes, usually towards the wide left area.

 

Smith, Rozehnal and Butt would lose out the most from discounting sideways passes.

 

Break it down for me then (Geremi's points).

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I thought I'd rewatch all our goals this season and see who the people are that are really contributing to our goals this season.

 

Of course, goals and assists are important, but it takes good play to work the ball into positions from which a goal can be created.

 

Thus you get a key contribution if you:

 

Score

Assist

Win a free kick, corner or penalty that leads to a goal

Win back possession and the opponents dont get control of the ball before a goal is scored

Pass the ball between possession being won and the goal being scored

Force the opposition into making a mistake that leads to a goal.

 

And having tallied up the contributions the table (Premiership only) currently stands at:

 

N'Zogbia 8 (13 games)

Geremi 7 (12 games)

Martins 6 (13 games)

Milner 6 (13 games)

Emre 5 (7 games)

Owen 5 (10 games)

Smith 5 (12 games)

Viduka 4 (8 games)

Rozehnal 4 (12 games)

Butt 3 (12 games)

Enrique 3 (7 games)

Taylor 2 (9 games)

Faye 1 (7 games)

Cacapa 1 (9 games)

Barton 1 (5 games)

 

What a sad little life you lead.

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vs Manchester City - Long weighted ball to Martins who controls it and sticks it away

 

vs Middlesbough - Cross to Viduka who turns and slots it in.

 

vs Bolton - Forces LB into mishitting long pass to Martins near half way, who scores via lucky deflection

 

vs Bolton - Through pass from 35 yards out to Smith on left wing who passes short to Milner who is in a better crossing position who crosses for Martins bicycle kick

 

vs Everton - wins 50-50 ball, plays simple pass to N'Zogbia who plays in Smith wide right, Everton struggle to deal with the cross and Butt tucks it home.

 

vs West Ham - wins ball and plays it 35 yards diagonally for N'Zogbia who crosses to Martins

 

vs West Ham - wins ball and plays 15 yards diagonally to N'Zogbia who crosses for Viduka after exchanging a one-two with Milner

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vs Bolton - Forces LB into mishitting long pass to Martins near half way, who scores via lucky deflection

 

vs Bolton - Through pass from 35 yards out to Smith on left wing who passes short to Milner who is in a better crossing position who crosses for Martins bicycle kick

 

vs Everton - wins 50-50 ball, plays simple pass to N'Zogbia who plays in Smith wide right, Everton struggle to deal with the cross and Butt tucks it home.

 

vs West Ham - wins ball and plays it 35 yards diagonally for N'Zogbia who crosses to Martins

 

vs West Ham - wins ball and plays 15 yards diagonally to N'Zogbia who crosses for Viduka after exchanging a one-two with Milner

 

All as good as goals.

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vs Manchester City - Long weighted ball to Martins who controls it and sticks it away

 

vs Middlesbough - Cross to Viduka who turns and slots it in.

 

vs Bolton - Forces LB into mishitting long pass to Martins near half way, who scores via lucky deflection

 

vs Bolton - Through pass from 35 yards out to Smith on left wing who passes short to Milner who is in a better crossing position who crosses for Martins bicycle kick

 

vs Everton - wins 50-50 ball, plays simple pass to N'Zogbia who plays in Smith wide right, Everton struggle to deal with the cross and Butt tucks it home.

 

vs West Ham - wins ball and plays it 35 yards diagonally for N'Zogbia who crosses to Martins

 

vs West Ham - wins ball and plays 15 yards diagonally to N'Zogbia who crosses for Viduka after exchanging a one-two with Milner

Has he not won any throw-ins or corners too?

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vs Bolton - Forces LB into mishitting long pass to Martins near half way, who scores via lucky deflection

 

vs Bolton - Through pass from 35 yards out to Smith on left wing who passes short to Milner who is in a better crossing position who crosses for Martins bicycle kick

 

vs Everton - wins 50-50 ball, plays simple pass to N'Zogbia who plays in Smith wide right, Everton struggle to deal with the cross and Butt tucks it home.

 

vs West Ham - wins ball and plays it 35 yards diagonally for N'Zogbia who crosses to Martins

 

vs West Ham - wins ball and plays 15 yards diagonally to N'Zogbia who crosses for Viduka after exchanging a one-two with Milner

 

All as good as goals.

 

He is not a goalscorer though. None of our central midfielders are really scoring goals, so other variables need to be taken account, and as far as these stats are concerned, Geremi wins the ball in the right places and does something effective with the ball, whereas the same can not be said about Nicky Butt.

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vs Bolton - Forces LB into mishitting long pass to Martins near half way, who scores via lucky deflection

 

vs Bolton - Through pass from 35 yards out to Smith on left wing who passes short to Milner who is in a better crossing position who crosses for Martins bicycle kick

 

vs Everton - wins 50-50 ball, plays simple pass to N'Zogbia who plays in Smith wide right, Everton struggle to deal with the cross and Butt tucks it home.

 

vs West Ham - wins ball and plays it 35 yards diagonally for N'Zogbia who crosses to Martins

 

vs West Ham - wins ball and plays 15 yards diagonally to N'Zogbia who crosses for Viduka after exchanging a one-two with Milner

 

All as good as goals.

 

He is not a goalscorer though. None of our central midfielders are really scoring goals, so other variables need to be taken account, and as far as these stats are concerned, Geremi wins the ball in the right places and does something effective with the ball, whereas the same can not be said about Nicky Butt.

exactly!

 

Love the way Nicky "can do no wrong" Butt gets treated like the messiah these days, when actually he can't pass a ball to save his life and that costs us possession every time.

 

Geremi is actually capable of far more if he raised his game, but he's doing a lot better than Butt overall and far better than some people have been making out.

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vs Bolton - Forces LB into mishitting long pass to Martins near half way, who scores via lucky deflection

 

vs Bolton - Through pass from 35 yards out to Smith on left wing who passes short to Milner who is in a better crossing position who crosses for Martins bicycle kick

 

vs Everton - wins 50-50 ball, plays simple pass to N'Zogbia who plays in Smith wide right, Everton struggle to deal with the cross and Butt tucks it home.

 

vs West Ham - wins ball and plays it 35 yards diagonally for N'Zogbia who crosses to Martins

 

vs West Ham - wins ball and plays 15 yards diagonally to N'Zogbia who crosses for Viduka after exchanging a one-two with Milner

 

All as good as goals.

 

He is not a goalscorer though. None of our central midfielders are really scoring goals, so other variables need to be taken account, and as far as these stats are concerned, Geremi wins the ball in the right places and does something effective with the ball, whereas the same can not be said about Nicky Butt.

exactly!

 

Love the way Nicky "can do no wrong" Butt gets treated like the messiah these days, when actually he can't pass a ball to save his life and that costs us possession every time.

 

Geremi is actually capable of far more actually if he raised his game, but he doing a lot better than Butt overall and far better than some people have been making out.

 

I'd replace Butt before Geremeee.

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Key Contributions?  I'll take a goal line clearance or a last ditch tackle that prevents a goal over a 5 yard sideways pass in midfield thanks.

 

Gotta love shit statistics like this.  Isn't that how Sam picks his teams and formations?

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