Karjala Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Was I watching a different game to the majority of the board? We were by far the superior team and if it wasn't for defensive deficiencies we would have walked away with all three points. First half we played the ball around pretty well and created openings throughout. Naturally this is irrelevant if you don't take your chances, Barnes took his but where was the closing down, you can't afford to give players with ability that much time and space. Second half began with Derby on the attack but as it played out we progressively improved until we bagged a deserved equalizer. Lets not forget we were only behind due to inept defending by Rozehnal, how can you allow a an opposition player breeze past you in such an important area of the field, it's elementary stuff. All in all it was a shocking result but the performance wasn't too bad. If it wasn't for the same old school boy errors at the back we would have been walking away with a comfortable 2-0 win. IF, IF, IF.... Being the superior team against Derby ain't hard, having a crap defence you won't win matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxaux Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 We didn't win so it must be time to sack the manager again Of course, he can do no right. Sack the fat bastard, the Richter scale recorded a new high today due to the amount of knees jerking at full time, a clear signal it's time for Sam to go... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxaux Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Was I watching a different game to the majority of the board? We were by far the superior team and if it wasn't for defensive deficiencies we would have walked away with all three points. First half we played the ball around pretty well and created openings throughout. Naturally this is irrelevant if you don't take your chances, Barnes took his but where was the closing down, you can't afford to give players with ability that much time and space. Second half began with Derby on the attack but as it played out we progressively improved until we bagged a deserved equalizer. Lets not forget we were only behind due to inept defending by Rozehnal, how can you allow a an opposition player breeze past you in such an important area of the field, it's elementary stuff. All in all it was a shocking result but the performance wasn't too bad. If it wasn't for the same old school boy errors at the back we would have been walking away with a comfortable 2-0 win. IF, IF, IF.... Being the superior team against Derby ain't hard, having a crap defence you won't win matches. ...and that's been a reoccurring problem for years now, hardly papering over cracks now is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 It was a game we should have won because Derby were poor defensively, and we had plenty of chances. We were let down by poor defending. Up front it should be Viduka or Smith but not both. They lack pace and Smith looks far more effective either as the target man or in midfield. Christ knows why people are complaining about 4-3-3, because we played 4-4-2 throughout. The good news was Duff, who looked in very good condition for a player coming back from a long injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Toongaboom Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Why Barton not Emre at home? Martins on right? Why i love this club....? Peking Olympics....moon.......space....................F*** F***F*** Derby 7pts and 4 of those from us... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 What was with the sarcastic cheering of taking Barton off even a couple near me booing what a joke!! Least him, Butt, and Milner were actually looking for the ball (fair enough sometimes gave it away) unlike other spineless players hiding behind players etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Was I watching a different game to the majority of the board? We were by far the superior team and if it wasn't for defensive deficiencies we would have walked away with all three points. First half we played the ball around pretty well and created openings throughout. Naturally this is irrelevant if you don't take your chances, Barnes took his but where was the closing down, you can't afford to give players with ability that much time and space. Second half began with Derby on the attack but as it played out we progressively improved until we bagged a deserved equalizer. Lets not forget we were only behind due to inept defending by Rozehnal, how can you allow a an opposition player breeze past you in such an important area of the field, it's elementary stuff. All in all it was a shocking result but the performance wasn't too bad. If it wasn't for the same old school boy errors at the back we would have been walking away with a comfortable 2-0 win. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Toongaboom Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Harper Carr Cacapa Martins Zog Geremi Smith Barton Given Krull Edgar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Emre doesn't play half as well from the start as he does as a sub but i'm sure that will be over looked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Was I watching a different game to the majority of the board? We were by far the superior team and if it wasn't for defensive deficiencies we would have walked away with all three points. First half we played the ball around pretty well and created openings throughout. Naturally this is irrelevant if you don't take your chances, Barnes took his but where was the closing down, you can't afford to give players with ability that much time and space. Second half began with Derby on the attack but as it played out we progressively improved until we bagged a deserved equalizer. Lets not forget we were only behind due to inept defending by Rozehnal, how can you allow a an opposition player breeze past you in such an important area of the field, it's elementary stuff. All in all it was a shocking result but the performance wasn't too bad. If it wasn't for the same old school boy errors at the back we would have been walking away with a comfortable 2-0 win. This. Bullshit the midfield were the last to just about every ball, we were awful in the middle of the park Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Was I watching a different game to the majority of the board? We were by far the superior team and if it wasn't for defensive deficiencies we would have walked away with all three points. First half we played the ball around pretty well and created openings throughout. Naturally this is irrelevant if you don't take your chances, Barnes took his but where was the closing down, you can't afford to give players with ability that much time and space. Second half began with Derby on the attack but as it played out we progressively improved until we bagged a deserved equalizer. Lets not forget we were only behind due to inept defending by Rozehnal, how can you allow a an opposition player breeze past you in such an important area of the field, it's elementary stuff. All in all it was a shocking result but the performance wasn't too bad. If it wasn't for the same old school boy errors at the back we would have been walking away with a comfortable 2-0 win. This. Bullshit the midfield were the last to just about every ball, we were awful in the middle of the park Aweful yet we had far more shots on goal. Your ridiculas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Was I watching a different game to the majority of the board? We were by far the superior team and if it wasn't for defensive deficiencies we would have walked away with all three points. First half we played the ball around pretty well and created openings throughout. Naturally this is irrelevant if you don't take your chances, Barnes took his but where was the closing down, you can't afford to give players with ability that much time and space. Second half began with Derby on the attack but as it played out we progressively improved until we bagged a deserved equalizer. Lets not forget we were only behind due to inept defending by Rozehnal, how can you allow a an opposition player breeze past you in such an important area of the field, it's elementary stuff. All in all it was a shocking result but the performance wasn't too bad. If it wasn't for the same old school boy errors at the back we would have been walking away with a comfortable 2-0 win. This. Bullshit the midfield were the last to just about every ball, we were awful in the middle of the park Aweful yet we had far more shots on goal. Your ridiculas. the performance was fucking awful from the midfield, we didn't look anything close to superior until Duff came on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Was I watching a different game to the majority of the board? We were by far the superior team and if it wasn't for defensive deficiencies we would have walked away with all three points. First half we played the ball around pretty well and created openings throughout. Naturally this is irrelevant if you don't take your chances, Barnes took his but where was the closing down, you can't afford to give players with ability that much time and space. Second half began with Derby on the attack but as it played out we progressively improved until we bagged a deserved equalizer. Lets not forget we were only behind due to inept defending by Rozehnal, how can you allow a an opposition player breeze past you in such an important area of the field, it's elementary stuff. All in all it was a shocking result but the performance wasn't too bad. If it wasn't for the same old school boy errors at the back we would have been walking away with a comfortable 2-0 win. This. Bullshit the midfield were the last to just about every ball, we were awful in the middle of the park Aweful yet we had far more shots on goal. Your ridiculas. the performance was fucking awful from the midfield, we didn't look anything close to superior until Duff came on Duff created nothing IMO. He just ran in a different direction to Milner when he picked up the ball (ie outside the fullback) without doing anything of note Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Emre doesn't play half as well from the start as he does as a sub but i'm sure that will be over looked. Its not even that. Hes a crock, and the best way to deal with a more attacking crock is to bench them regularly and only have them starting the odd game - when theyre not starting, opposition midfielders and defenders dont get instructions like "take him out of the game, rough him up, hes fragile". Thats why Madrid got a whole season out of Owen. Regularly benched, coming on when the opposition were tired and had no gameplan from the off to deal with him (ie rough him up), starting the odd game, it was a good way to reduce the possibility of injury and keeping him at a prime fitness level. I think both of them would be good players to have on the bench. Whether theyd be happy with that is another matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 and just what the fuck has the fact 'we had more shots on goal' got to do with anything Derby led twice, they weren't trying to increase their lead, use your head mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Barring matches against us, Derby have 3 points from half a season of football. Extrapolate that and they are comfortably the worst team to ever have played Premiership football. For periods today they played us off the park. Pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Barring matches against us, Derby have 3 points from half a season of football. Extrapolate that and they are comfortably the worst team to ever have played Premiership football. For periods today they played us off the park. Pathetic. Not to mention they've only scored 5 goals if you take away our games against them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Barring matches against us, Derby have 3 points from half a season of football. Extrapolate that and they are comfortably the worst team to ever have played Premiership football. For periods today they played us off the park. Pathetic. Not to mention they've only scored 5 goals if you take away our games against them. before today they'd managed 1 goal away from home, it's a fucking joke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Barring matches against us, Derby have 3 points from half a season of football. Extrapolate that and they are comfortably the worst team to ever have played Premiership football. For periods today they played us off the park. Pathetic. Not to mention they've only scored 5 goals if you take away our games against them. If you take off those five goals and the points from the three games they've drawn before today, they have no points and no goals. I don't see it as a useful statistic though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Barring matches against us, Derby have 3 points from half a season of football. Extrapolate that and they are comfortably the worst team to ever have played Premiership football. For periods today they played us off the park. Pathetic. Not to mention they've only scored 5 goals if you take away our games against them. before today they'd managed 1 goal away from home, it's a fucking joke At Old Trafford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 We were all over them. There was a ten-minute period after they scored where they were on top and looked good. Other than that, the other 75 minutes or whatever, we were by far the better team. It was average vs absolute s*** today. I'm not happy with the result or the performance, but we should have won. I agree 100%, but it gets so frustrating at times I can understand why people over react on this board. It could have been 3-1 at the half if not for some horrible refereeing and Barnes clearing Martins off the post. I would honestly love to sit and listen to Sam's reasoning for that starting midfield. Also, if Taylor is healthy, why isn't he starting a head of Rozy? It was a Czech-mate-nutmeg of an embarrassment on their 2nd. I feel bad for Rozy, he looks like he's trying his best, but it ain't good enough. More points lost to an abysmal team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 sad thing is, Taylor and Roz are as bad as each other, both clueless when it comes to defending Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 People can make excuses and explore our performance today, talk about what we deserved etc. but at the end of the day, In games where we should have taken 6 points (Derby (h) and (a)), we have instead taken 1 point. That is not acceptable in any way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Taylor was dreadful when he came on, he was like Peter Kay in the john smiths advert with some of his clearances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Taylor was dreadful when he came on, he was like Peter Kay in the john smiths advert with some of his clearances. Taylor was dreadful making good clearances? Something the other two didn't do all afternoon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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