Dave Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 I'm dying for us to get rid of Smith and Shola and bring someone better in, but you can only sell if someone wants to buy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 fucking disgrace if only Martins and Smith are fit for Man U The club have been aware of Viduka's problems since May and Owen is always going to be a doubt, why we dont already have a striker in the bag is beyond me. Alan fucking Smith up front, fucking idiots Have you seen how many strikers KK has already been lumbered with? It's not his fault Sherla won't fuck off and nobody wants to buy that useless knacker Smith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Owen, Viduka and Martins are the only strikers we have. Two of which are injury prone. Smith and Shola cannot be considered strikers. That suggests to me that we should already have a new striker in the squad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Owen, Viduka and Martins are the only strikers we have. Two of which are injury prone. Smith and Shola cannot be considered strikers. That suggests to me that we should already have a new striker in the squad They're both still burning a huge hole in our resources. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Owen, Viduka and Martins are the only strikers we have. Two of which are injury prone. Smith and Shola cannot be considered strikers. That suggests to me that we should already have a new striker in the squad They're both still burning a huge hole in our resources. I know that, but all the same we've had 2 months to sort the problem and here we are still with it. And it's a bloody serious one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Owen, Viduka and Martins are the only strikers we have. Two of which are injury prone. Smith and Shola cannot be considered strikers. That suggests to me that we should already have a new striker in the squad They're both still burning a huge hole in our resources. I know that, but all the same we've had 2 months to sort the problem and here we are still with it. And it's a bloody serious one What if the budget isn't there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Owen, Viduka and Martins are the only strikers we have. Two of which are injury prone. Smith and Shola cannot be considered strikers. That suggests to me that we should already have a new striker in the squad They're both still burning a huge hole in our resources. I know that, but all the same we've had 2 months to sort the problem and here we are still with it. And it's a bloody serious one What if the budget isn't there? Why isn't it there? We've got a small enough squad! Speculate to accumulate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Owen, Viduka and Martins are the only strikers we have. Two of which are injury prone. Smith and Shola cannot be considered strikers. That suggests to me that we should already have a new striker in the squad They're both still burning a huge hole in our resources. I know that, but all the same we've had 2 months to sort the problem and here we are still with it. And it's a bloody serious one What if the budget isn't there? If there isn't enough funds for a new striker when we only have ONE we can rely on to be fit and perform then Mr Ashley has no business owning this club tbh. I'm 100% convinced there is funds, a half-decent striker from the continent could cost as little as £2m. And I'm sure we'll get one before sep 1st, but why leave it that long is beyond me, amateurs tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Owen, Viduka and Martins are the only strikers we have. Two of which are injury prone. Smith and Shola cannot be considered strikers. That suggests to me that we should already have a new striker in the squad They're both still burning a huge hole in our resources. I know that, but all the same we've had 2 months to sort the problem and here we are still with it. And it's a bloody serious one What if the budget isn't there? Why isn't it there? We've got a small enough squad! Speculate to accumulate. As entered in two different threads. If Alan Smith stays for the remaining 4 years of his contract we will pay hime £10.4 million Shola has shown how difficult it is to get highe earners to leave. £10m would give us a huge amount of leverage to work with Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Owen, Viduka and Martins are the only strikers we have. Two of which are injury prone. Smith and Shola cannot be considered strikers. That suggests to me that we should already have a new striker in the squad They're both still burning a huge hole in our resources. I know that, but all the same we've had 2 months to sort the problem and here we are still with it. And it's a bloody serious one What if the budget isn't there? Why isn't it there? We've got a small enough squad! Speculate to accumulate. As entered in two different threads. If Alan Smith stays for the remaining 4 years of his contract we will pay hime £10.4 million Shola has shown how difficult it is to get highe earners to leave. £10m would give us a huge amount of leverage to work with Which is exactly why running a football club just like a business doesn't work. You can't say that we're not signing a new striker because one of our shit players will cost us £10.4m over the next 4 years! The teams at the top are there because they sign players when they need them. Does it bother Man United and Liverpool that they owe so much money? Does it bother Chelsea that their money is coming from a billionaire owner rather than "recovered" funds? Fuck it, let's stop bringing players in until we sell everyone we don't want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Owen, Viduka and Martins are the only strikers we have. Two of which are injury prone. Smith and Shola cannot be considered strikers. That suggests to me that we should already have a new striker in the squad They're both still burning a huge hole in our resources. I know that, but all the same we've had 2 months to sort the problem and here we are still with it. And it's a bloody serious one What if the budget isn't there? If there isn't enough funds for a new striker when we only have ONE we can rely on to be fit and perform then Mr Ashley has no business owning this club tbh. I'm 100% convinced there is funds, a half-decent striker from the continent could cost as little as £2m. And I'm sure we'll get one before sep 1st, but why leave it that long is beyond me, amateurs tbh If they're amateurs who are paid to do that role, where does that leave us numpties who post on message boards? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danswan Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Reckon he'd do alright at Everton. Suited to their harrying/in your face style. Moyes usually gets the best out of players like him n all. Can't see that like. He's been abysmal for us under two different managers, both in midfield and up front. Moyes is a good manager, but you can't polish a turd It is possible to polish a turd, it just makes a bit of a stinking mess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Owen, Viduka and Martins are the only strikers we have. Two of which are injury prone. Smith and Shola cannot be considered strikers. That suggests to me that we should already have a new striker in the squad They're both still burning a huge hole in our resources. I know that, but all the same we've had 2 months to sort the problem and here we are still with it. And it's a bloody serious one What if the budget isn't there? Why isn't it there? We've got a small enough squad! Speculate to accumulate. As entered in two different threads. If Alan Smith stays for the remaining 4 years of his contract we will pay hime £10.4 million Shola has shown how difficult it is to get highe earners to leave. £10m would give us a huge amount of leverage to work with that just made me sick in my mouth a little........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Owen, Viduka and Martins are the only strikers we have. Two of which are injury prone. Smith and Shola cannot be considered strikers. That suggests to me that we should already have a new striker in the squad They're both still burning a huge hole in our resources. I know that, but all the same we've had 2 months to sort the problem and here we are still with it. And it's a bloody serious one What if the budget isn't there? If there isn't enough funds for a new striker when we only have ONE we can rely on to be fit and perform then Mr Ashley has no business owning this club tbh. I'm 100% convinced there is funds, a half-decent striker from the continent could cost as little as £2m. And I'm sure we'll get one before sep 1st, but why leave it that long is beyond me, amateurs tbh If they're amateurs who are paid to do that role, where does that leave us numpties who post on message boards? who knows, the ones who have to suffer their mistakes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Loved him when he was at Leeds. for £1.75m I'd take him. He's like Beattie but he can actually run. Stick him in a decent team and give him some confidence and he could be good for 10-15 goals a season. I think Moyes might be buying him as cover for a perma-crocked Cahill. Just doing the link up play in the hole. I think if we hadn't had such a transfer window of high promise and ultimate discontent people would be warmer to this deal. He's not a bad player, he just hadn't had much of a settled time at ManU(he's never a holding mid Fergie lad) and Newcastle are proper crap who can't supply decent football, let alone supply their forwards. Thumbs up from me. if it happens the poor fucker is in for a surprise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 David Moyes could well be our knight in shining armour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Owen, Viduka and Martins are the only strikers we have. Two of which are injury prone. Smith and Shola cannot be considered strikers. That suggests to me that we should already have a new striker in the squad They're both still burning a huge hole in our resources. I know that, but all the same we've had 2 months to sort the problem and here we are still with it. And it's a bloody serious one What if the budget isn't there? Why isn't it there? We've got a small enough squad! Speculate to accumulate. We've got a small squad but up front we're well stocked, you can't go adding extra strikers to make up the numbers when you've already got 6 of them that featured last season still here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Some people, honest to God. We've got six strikers with six wage bills. If no one wants so sign any of the current ones, we're not going to get another really are we. Sack the fucking board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 He's never a holding mid Fergie lad Now that just has to be the most inappropriately patronising remark I've ever read on this forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Owen, Viduka and Martins are the only strikers we have. Two of which are injury prone. Smith and Shola cannot be considered strikers. That suggests to me that we should already have a new striker in the squad They're both still burning a huge hole in our resources. I know that, but all the same we've had 2 months to sort the problem and here we are still with it. And it's a bloody serious one What if the budget isn't there? Why isn't it there? We've got a small enough squad! Speculate to accumulate. We've got a small squad but up front we're well stocked, you can't go adding extra strikers to make up the numbers when you've already got 6 of them that featured last season still here. we're nowhere near well stocked. On the balance sheet yes, perhaps. On the pitch we have ONE, ONE ffs who we can rely on to be fit and perform Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Owen, Viduka and Martins are the only strikers we have. Two of which are injury prone. Smith and Shola cannot be considered strikers. That suggests to me that we should already have a new striker in the squad They're both still burning a huge hole in our resources. I know that, but all the same we've had 2 months to sort the problem and here we are still with it. And it's a bloody serious one What if the budget isn't there? Why isn't it there? We've got a small enough squad! Speculate to accumulate. We've got a small squad but up front we're well stocked, you can't go adding extra strikers to make up the numbers when you've already got 6 of them that featured last season still here. we're nowhere near well stocked. On the balance sheet yes, perhaps. On the pitch we have ONE, ONE ffs who we can rely on to be fit and perform We've got 6 strikers on our books, you can't just keep adding more without getting rid of the shit and all the crying in the World won't change that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Owen, Viduka and Martins are the only strikers we have. Two of which are injury prone. Smith and Shola cannot be considered strikers. That suggests to me that we should already have a new striker in the squad They're both still burning a huge hole in our resources. I know that, but all the same we've had 2 months to sort the problem and here we are still with it. And it's a bloody serious one What if the budget isn't there? Why isn't it there? We've got a small enough squad! Speculate to accumulate. We've got a small squad but up front we're well stocked, you can't go adding extra strikers to make up the numbers when you've already got 6 of them that featured last season still here. we're nowhere near well stocked. On the balance sheet yes, perhaps. On the pitch we have ONE, ONE ffs who we can rely on to be fit and perform We've got 6 strikers on our books, you can't just keep adding more without getting rid of the s*** and all the crying in the World won't change that. Right , so you need 4 players. You have 1 who is generally fit and performs well, 2 that peform well but cannot be relied on to be available, and 2 that cannot be considered adequate players for that role. You're still nowhere near having the 4 players you need. As Shearergol said, that's why you cant run a football club like a business and why you can view players like assets Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Owen, Viduka and Martins are the only strikers we have. Two of which are injury prone. Smith and Shola cannot be considered strikers. That suggests to me that we should already have a new striker in the squad They're both still burning a huge hole in our resources. I know that, but all the same we've had 2 months to sort the problem and here we are still with it. And it's a bloody serious one What if the budget isn't there? Why isn't it there? We've got a small enough squad! Speculate to accumulate. We've got a small squad but up front we're well stocked, you can't go adding extra strikers to make up the numbers when you've already got 6 of them that featured last season still here. we're nowhere near well stocked. On the balance sheet yes, perhaps. On the pitch we have ONE, ONE ffs who we can rely on to be fit and perform We've got 6 strikers on our books, you can't just keep adding more without getting rid of the s*** and all the crying in the World won't change that. Right , so you need 4 players. You have 1 who is generally fit and performs well, 2 that peform well but cannot be relied on to be available, and 2 that cannot be considered adequate players for that role. You're still nowhere near having the 4 players you need. As Shearergol said, that's why you cant run a football club like a business and why you can view players like assets But if you are in a position where you are paying £10m in wages to one of the strikers common sense says you can not kleep adding to that cost. In that way you do have to run it like a business, decisions have to be made on how you fill your squad. We made the decision to sign Smith as a striker cum midfielder. We are not in a position to replicate the cost on a replacement until we get rid. And none of this 'We've got a billionaire owner' crap. There is a limit to how much a person is willing to put into anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Owen, Viduka and Martins are the only strikers we have. Two of which are injury prone. Smith and Shola cannot be considered strikers. That suggests to me that we should already have a new striker in the squad They're both still burning a huge hole in our resources. I know that, but all the same we've had 2 months to sort the problem and here we are still with it. And it's a bloody serious one What if the budget isn't there? Why isn't it there? We've got a small enough squad! Speculate to accumulate. We've got a small squad but up front we're well stocked, you can't go adding extra strikers to make up the numbers when you've already got 6 of them that featured last season still here. we're nowhere near well stocked. On the balance sheet yes, perhaps. On the pitch we have ONE, ONE ffs who we can rely on to be fit and perform We've got 6 strikers on our books, you can't just keep adding more without getting rid of the s*** and all the crying in the World won't change that. Right , so you need 4 players. You have 1 who is generally fit and performs well, 2 that peform well but cannot be relied on to be available, and 2 that cannot be considered adequate players for that role. You're still nowhere near having the 4 players you need. As Shearergol said, that's why you cant run a football club like a business and why you can view players like assets We've got 6 strikers on our books, you can't just keep adding more without getting rid of the s*** and all the crying in the World won't change that. Why is it difficult to understand? We've got six strikers. They've each got a wage bill. We're not going to add another striker until we get rid of the current ones. We can't shift one of the current one's cos they're dogshite, like you say. And that's not our fault in the slightest. It's just tough luck; if you want to blame anyone, blame Allardyce - not the current board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Owen, Viduka and Martins are the only strikers we have. Two of which are injury prone. Smith and Shola cannot be considered strikers. That suggests to me that we should already have a new striker in the squad They're both still burning a huge hole in our resources. I know that, but all the same we've had 2 months to sort the problem and here we are still with it. And it's a bloody serious one What if the budget isn't there? Why isn't it there? We've got a small enough squad! Speculate to accumulate. We've got a small squad but up front we're well stocked, you can't go adding extra strikers to make up the numbers when you've already got 6 of them that featured last season still here. we're nowhere near well stocked. On the balance sheet yes, perhaps. On the pitch we have ONE, ONE ffs who we can rely on to be fit and perform We've got 6 strikers on our books, you can't just keep adding more without getting rid of the s*** and all the crying in the World won't change that. Right , so you need 4 players. You have 1 who is generally fit and performs well, 2 that peform well but cannot be relied on to be available, and 2 that cannot be considered adequate players for that role. You're still nowhere near having the 4 players you need. As Shearergol said, that's why you cant run a football club like a business and why you can view players like assets Welcome to real life, you name another club apart from Chelsea that will just continue to add players to a certain position without getting rid of the shite? You can call it running the club as a business but I see it as keeping your house in order, and having a player on £50k + per week as a minimum of 5th choice isn't doing that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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