Thespence Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 The magistrate who refused him bail said “I also have to consider the safety of the public - you lashed out indiscriminately.” How can she say that (ie `you're guilty') before he has even entered a plea, let alone had his case heard? Sweet Jesus. The magistrate gets a case presented before them why bail should not be given. This does not equal being found guilty or not guilty for the offence. What did you think happend? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Well that sounds like he's up shit creek without a paddle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 I bet Dabo is happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magorific Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 The magistrate who refused him bail said I also have to consider the safety of the public - you lashed out indiscriminately. How can she say that (ie `you're guilty') before he has even entered a plea, let alone had his case heard? Sweet Jesus. The magistrate gets a case presented before them why bail should not be given. This does not equal being found guilty or not guilty for the offence. What did you think happend? Sweet Jesus. I asked that question before I'd read the report from the court, which explains exactly why the magistrate said what she said - his lawyer completely 'fessed up. If he hadn't she wouldn't have been legally entitled to say what she said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Well that sounds like he's up shit creek without a paddle. Or boat. Can't explain why but my overriding emotion here isn't anger but disappointment, almost parental like. Just really, really disappointed in the lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ridzuan Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Well,he wouldnt be able to make much of a difference either if he is playing,so might as well spend some his time behind bars,nothing new for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiesned Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Basically, if found guilty of affray (Section 3 Public Order Act 1986) then the Magistrates have the power to sentence him to a maximum 3 years imprisonment. However, a much smaller sentence would be more likely especially as provocation could be taken into account by the Magistrates. Given what his defence solicitor has said and the fact the incident has been caught on CCTV then I'd be very surprised if a guilty plea wasn't entered entered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Can this incident be used (as evidence of his character) in the Dabo trial in any way? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Well that sounds like he's up shit creek without a paddle. Or boat. Can't explain why but my overriding emotion here isn't anger but disappointment, almost parental like. Just really, really disappointed in the lad. Stuart Pearce would be able to relate to that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gray Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 surely we had some sort of clause saying we wouldnt pay him if he was locked up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiesned Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Can this incident be used (as evidence of his character) in the Dabo trial in any way? The CPS can apply to the court to enter a Bad Character application. However, this latest incident would not be able to be mentioned or taken into account until it is concluded in court. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest duffyg Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 when will the cctv video leak? should be in the NOTW on sunday methinks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Here's what kicked off then. . . Jayne Hughes, prosecuting, had earlier told the court that Barton could clearly be seen on CCTV involved in a series of incidents in Church Street in Liverpool city centre at 5.30am yesterday. She said Barton and his friends became involved in a confrontation with another group inside a McDonald’s restaurant and the manager asked both parties to leave. Outside, she said, the alleged affray took place when an unknown man made a gesture towards the player. She said there followed a final incident in which a man was allegedly punched to the ground by Barton. She said: “The CCTV clearly shows Mr Barton involved in altercations with members of the public going about their business. “He was seen pacing around Church Street and lashing out indiscriminately at people walking around and standing around.” Alongside Barton, his brother, Andrew, 19, from Widnes, is charged with actual bodily harm and affray and Nadine Wilson, 27, from Huyton, Merseyside, who was also part of Barton’s group, is charged with common assault and affray. Barton’s solicitor, Gwyn Lewis, said the 11-minute long incident was the result of a “great deal of provocation”. He said: “Mr Barton was involved in an incident of which he is in no way proud. “He was goaded. They recognised his face and he was an easy target for them. “It is fair to say there was an enormous amount of provocation, although that is not a defence.” Mr Lewis said the player was goaded because he did not sign for Everton FC this summer, over his playing abilities, and over the conviction of his half-brother Michael for the racist murder of Anthony Walker in 2005. Mr Lewis said the final straw came when a girl in Barton’s group was assaulted in the street by a man. He said: “That was the spark that lit the tinderbox and, there is no secret about it, he lost his temper.” Mr Lewis offered the court a number of bail conditions including a police imposed curfew and the offer of residency at the Sporting Chance clinic in Hampshire. TEXT BOOK!!! Can someone drop Tony Adams or the other Peter kay a line/email & tell them we need a place for Joey for the next few days, his demons have kicked somebody in again. Email address & telephone number: [email protected]. Telephone number: 0870 2200714. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Bloody idiot. Agree with others that say Allardyce will have to take a lot of responsibility for this. He brought him in on the promise any bother wasn't going to rear its ugly head again. That lasted long. Don't suppose you know where there are any quotes to this effect? Can't find them... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ridzuan Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Does anyone think Barton should quit from playing football and join the wrestling industry instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 It's assumption on my part, but I'm sure I read something from Barton saying he knew this was his last chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 He must be, officially, the thickest cunt in England Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 What the fuck was he doing out on the piss after the game anyway? What a twat, doesn't deserve to be a footballer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gray Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 What the f*** was he doing out on the piss after the game anyway? eh? why not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magorific Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 What the f*** was he doing out on the piss after the game anyway? eh? why not? Most clubs insist on a 72-hour no-drinking curfew before games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 fair to say his professional career is over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 I doubt that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 fair to say his professional career is over. Not yet, but step by step he gets closer to the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Barton reminds me of an out of control car careering downhill and lurching from one accident to the next. Unfortunately this club pays the insurance and is liable for all the damage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Aye, if that ginger prick can off someone and waltz back into professional football, i'm fairly sure Joey Barton can deal with kicking the shit out of some mouthy scouse fuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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