Skirge Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 For pure skill and Ability then Gazza was class, just a total tit that ruined his career, therefore Beardsley takes it by a mile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Gazza was without a doubt one of the most skillful English footballers of the last x number of years. But that's it. There more to being a top player than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 For pure skill and Ability then Gazza was class, just a total tit that ruined his career, therefore Beardsley takes it by a mile I wouldn't even agree that Beardsley did more with the time he had... Club and Country Gascoigne FIFA World Cup Fourth Place winners medal, 1990 FA Cup, 1991 Scottish League Championship, 1996 and 1997 Scottish Cup, 1996 Scottish League Cup, 1997 PFA Young Player of the Year, 1988 BBC Sports Personality of the Year, 1990 Scottish Players' Player of the Year, 1996 Scottish Football Writers' Player of the Year, 1996 English Football Hall of Fame Inaugural Inductee, 2002 Beardsley Football League First Division 1987/88 and 1989/90 FA Cup 1988/89 Charity Shield 1988/89, 1989/90 and 1990/91 Football League Second Division 1998/99 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 For pure skill and Ability then Gazza was class, just a total tit that ruined his career, therefore Beardsley takes it by a mile I wouldn't even agree that Beardsley did more with the time he had... Club and Country Gascoigne FA Cup, 1991 Scottish League Championship, 1996 and 1997 Scottish Cup, 1996 Scottish League Cup, 1997 Beardsley Football League First Division 1987/88 and 1989/90 FA Cup 1988/89 Charity Shield 1988/89, 1989/90 and 1990/91 Football League Second Division 1998/99 FYP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 For pure skill and Ability then Gazza was class, just a total tit that ruined his career, therefore Beardsley takes it by a mile I wouldn't even agree that Beardsley did more with the time he had... Club and Country Gascoigne FA Cup, 1991 Beardsley Football League First Division 1987/88 and 1989/90 FA Cup 1988/89 Charity Shield 1988/89, 1989/90 and 1990/91 Football League Second Division 1998/99 FYP. FYPAW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 For pure skill and Ability then Gazza was class, just a total tit that ruined his career, therefore Beardsley takes it by a mile I wouldn't even agree that Beardsley did more with the time he had... Club and Country Gascoigne FA Cup, 1991 Scottish League Championship, 1996 and 1997 Scottish Cup, 1996 Scottish League Cup, 1997 Beardsley Football League First Division 1987/88 and 1989/90 FA Cup 1988/89 Charity Shield 1988/89, 1989/90 and 1990/91 Football League Second Division 1998/99 FYP. I don't see how removing Gascoigne's individual awards is fixing the post. Perhaps if you'd added Beardsleys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Gazza was without a doubt one of the most skillful English footballers of the last x number of years. But that's it. There more to being a top player than that. So are you saying Gazza was just all skill and no end product? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Boot Boy Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Tough one IMO. Gascoigne. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gav H Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Pedro everytime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Gazza was without a doubt one of the most skillful English footballers of the last x number of years. But that's it. There more to being a top player than that. So are you saying Gazza was just all skill and no end product? No, not at all. I just don't think he had the mentality of a professional sportsmen and, as such, only achieved a percentage of what he could've. I'm a Gazza fan, but I don't admire him like I do Pedro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mobiius Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 pedro every time to be fair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Gazza was without a doubt one of the most skillful English footballers of the last x number of years. But that's it. There more to being a top player than that. So are you saying Gazza was just all skill and no end product? No, not at all. I just don't think he had the mentality of a professional sportsmen and, as such, only achieved a percentage of what he could've. I'm a Gazza fan, but I don't admire him like I do Pedro. Can't go along with that. Longevity shouldn't be a concern. The question is, when both players were on the pitch for 90 minutes, who could do more in that game? It's undoubtedly Gascoigne. His wife beating, drunken, psycholgically unbalanced, drug addled state of mind doesn't come into it. It's like saying The Clash are better than The Sex Pistols because they have a larger back catalogue. The Sex Pistols' one album is better than anything from The Clash. Both are good, but the Pistols defined the period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Novocastrian Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Gazza, had the ability to be the best in the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Gazza was without a doubt one of the most skillful English footballers of the last x number of years. But that's it. There more to being a top player than that. So are you saying Gazza was just all skill and no end product? No, not at all. I just don't think he had the mentality of a professional sportsmen and, as such, only achieved a percentage of what he could've. I'm a Gazza fan, but I don't admire him like I do Pedro. Can't go along with that. Longevity shouldn't be a concern. The question is, when both players were on the pitch for 90 minutes, who could do more in that game? It's undoubtedly Gascoigne. His wife beating, drunken, psycholgically unbalanced, drug addled state of mind doesn't come into it. It's like saying The Clash are better than The Sex Pistols because they have a larger back catalogue. The Sex Pistols' one album is better than anything from The Clash. Both are good, but the Pistols defined the period. Well, you're wrong about that an' all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UV Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Gazza was without a doubt one of the most skillful English footballers of the last x number of years. But that's it. There more to being a top player than that. So are you saying Gazza was just all skill and no end product? No, not at all. I just don't think he had the mentality of a professional sportsmen and, as such, only achieved a percentage of what he could've. I'm a Gazza fan, but I don't admire him like I do Pedro. Can't go along with that. Longevity shouldn't be a concern. The question is, when both players were on the pitch for 90 minutes, who could do more in that game? It's undoubtedly Gascoigne. His wife beating, drunken, psycholgically unbalanced, drug addled state of mind doesn't come into it. It's like saying The Clash are better than The Sex Pistols because they have a larger back catalogue. The Sex Pistols' one album is better than anything from The Clash. Both are good, but the Pistols defined the period. Completely wrong, but good analogy. The Clash were much better than the Sex Pistols, but the Pistols are the one's people who aren't really into music remember because of the hype and the drama. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Beardsley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. TC Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Pretty conclusive so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Gazza was without a doubt one of the most skillful English footballers of the last x number of years. But that's it. There more to being a top player than that. So are you saying Gazza was just all skill and no end product? No, not at all. I just don't think he had the mentality of a professional sportsmen and, as such, only achieved a percentage of what he could've. I'm a Gazza fan, but I don't admire him like I do Pedro. Can't go along with that. Longevity shouldn't be a concern. The question is, when both players were on the pitch for 90 minutes, who could do more in that game? It's undoubtedly Gascoigne. His wife beating, drunken, psycholgically unbalanced, drug addled state of mind doesn't come into it. It's like saying The Clash are better than The Sex Pistols because they have a larger back catalogue. The Sex Pistols' one album is better than anything from The Clash. Both are good, but the Pistols defined the period. Completely wrong, but good analogy. The Clash were much better than the Sex Pistols, but the Pistols are the one's people who aren't really into music remember because of the hype and the drama. Bollocks. I love the clash, but they never made an album as good as Never Mind the Bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BigAl2 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Beardsley for me Gascoigne was a great player but for sheer longevity and class it has to be Beardsley. PS didn't Beardsley play a major roll in the 1990 England world cup semi final team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Gascoigne at his peak was the greatest footballer in the world. Sadly his peak was very short, whereas Pedro was still turning it on well into his 30s and gave me far more enjoyment, not least becasue I saw him play for Newcastle whereas Gazza was here before my time. Despite this, I voted for Gazza even though Beardsley did much more with his talent than Paul did with his, because I've decided I'm voting on simply who was the best player at their peak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Beardsley for me Gascoigne was a great player but for sheer longevity and class it has to be Beardsley. PS didn't Beardsley play a major roll in the 1990 England world cup semi final team? Gascoigne was the only Englishman in the the team of the tournament. EDIT: He was also in the Euro '96 one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BigAl2 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Beardsley for me Gascoigne was a great player but for sheer longevity and class it has to be Beardsley. PS didn't Beardsley play a major roll in the 1990 England world cup semi final team? Gascoigne was the only Englishman in the the team of the tournament. EDIT: He was also in the Euro '96 one. I also remember the 1986 England team being inspired by a Beardsley fed Lineker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mucky01 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Gascoigne was the single greatest English player of the last 30 odd years. Beardsley was one of the other talented ones. Anyone voting the other way is over romanticising things. agreed Gazza – before he knacked his knee was probably the best midfielder in the world. Pedro one of the best in the toon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 It's like saying The Clash are better than The Sex Pistols because they have a larger back catalogue. The Sex Pistols' one album is better than anything from The Clash. Both are good, but the Pistols defined the period. Bull. Longevity is important. It's like the point made in another thread about Sir Les being at his best greater than Shearer (dubious imo)-- the problem being that Les' peak lasted two years while Shearer's six (a very important point). Shearer was the greater player. And the Clash were the greater band. And as far as individual albums go, I'd take London Calling any day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Gazza should have been, Beardsley was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now