Guest fraser Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Maybe they dont have the tactical skills as european players do, but the speed and offensive is beyond what any european country can come up with i belive. Black people are simply better athletes than white people. Faster, more agile and generally just more explosive on the whole. No real point deluding ourselves and trying to be PC about it, it's a stonewall fact. Conversely, white folks are, by and large, better equiped at the cerebral side of sports (i.e reading what is going on around them and making decisions) You need only look at american football to see this. In the positions where speed and athleticism are crucial, like running-back, reciever or cornerback, you will do well to find a white person in the entire league. You get some wide-recievers, admittedly, but most of these are "slot recievers" who generally are expected to work the middle of the field and spot open space in zone coverages (which further illustrates my point) rather than be big playmakers. On the other hand pretty much all the elite QB's, for my money the most mentally challenging position is sport, are white guys. There are exceptions to the rule of course, but this is the way it generally goes. What utter bollocks. Well, you've certainly disproven the arguement there. What argument? Do you really consider your sort of infantile reasoning an argument? It's racism dressed up in a spurious series of statements designed never to be able to be gainsaid and therefore not (in your world) disproven; any contrary statements serve only to confirm you in your prejudices. Your racist patter has no intellectual credibility whatsoever. Whatever. If acknowledging very obvious differences between people of different races makes me a racist then I guess I'm a racist. Good guess. Strange, I'd always assumed there was some element of discrimination involved. You generally attribute qualities' or lack of them' to people on the basis of their race (black people run faster, whites are more cerebral). This is racism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Maybe they dont have the tactical skills as european players do, but the speed and offensive is beyond what any european country can come up with i belive. Black people are simply better athletes than white people. Faster, more agile and generally just more explosive on the whole. No real point deluding ourselves and trying to be PC about it, it's a stonewall fact. Conversely, white folks are, by and large, better equiped at the cerebral side of sports (i.e reading what is going on around them and making decisions) You need only look at american football to see this. In the positions where speed and athleticism are crucial, like running-back, reciever or cornerback, you will do well to find a white person in the entire league. You get some wide-recievers, admittedly, but most of these are "slot recievers" who generally are expected to work the middle of the field and spot open space in zone coverages (which further illustrates my point) rather than be big playmakers. On the other hand pretty much all the elite QB's, for my money the most mentally challenging position is sport, are white guys. There are exceptions to the rule of course, but this is the way it generally goes. What utter bollocks. Well, you've certainly disproven the arguement there. What argument? Do you really consider your sort of infantile reasoning an argument? It's racism dressed up in a spurious series of statements designed never to be able to be gainsaid and therefore not (in your world) disproven; any contrary statements serve only to confirm you in your prejudices. Your racist patter has no intellectual credibility whatsoever. Whatever. If acknowledging very obvious differences between people of different races makes me a racist then I guess I'm a racist. Good guess. Strange, I'd always assumed there was some element of discrimination involved. You generally attribute qualities' or lack of them' to people on the basis of their race (black people run faster, whites are more cerebral). This is racism. Never thought I'd see the day when a "Today's Other Games" thread was a candidate for being locked................ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Maybe they dont have the tactical skills as european players do, but the speed and offensive is beyond what any european country can come up with i belive. Black people are simply better athletes than white people. Faster, more agile and generally just more explosive on the whole. No real point deluding ourselves and trying to be PC about it, it's a stonewall fact. Conversely, white folks are, by and large, better equiped at the cerebral side of sports (i.e reading what is going on around them and making decisions) You need only look at american football to see this. In the positions where speed and athleticism are crucial, like running-back, reciever or cornerback, you will do well to find a white person in the entire league. You get some wide-recievers, admittedly, but most of these are "slot recievers" who generally are expected to work the middle of the field and spot open space in zone coverages (which further illustrates my point) rather than be big playmakers. On the other hand pretty much all the elite QB's, for my money the most mentally challenging position is sport, are white guys. There are exceptions to the rule of course, but this is the way it generally goes. What utter bollocks. Well, you've certainly disproven the arguement there. What argument? Do you really consider your sort of infantile reasoning an argument? It's racism dressed up in a spurious series of statements designed never to be able to be gainsaid and therefore not (in your world) disproven; any contrary statements serve only to confirm you in your prejudices. Your racist patter has no intellectual credibility whatsoever. Whatever. If acknowledging very obvious differences between people of different races makes me a racist then I guess I'm a racist. Good guess. Strange, I'd always assumed there was some element of discrimination involved. You generally attribute qualities' or lack of them' to people on the basis of their race (black people run faster, whites are more cerebral). This is racism. As I said, there are exceptions. But yes. Generally, in sports, this is the case. Are you telling me its just a big coincidence that the 10 greatest NFL quarterbacks of all time are white, while the 10 greatest running backs are all black? Again, apologies if you're offended, but I really don't see the point in blindly pretending that there aren't differences between different races of people that make some of them more suitable for certain things than others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Maybe they dont have the tactical skills as european players do, but the speed and offensive is beyond what any european country can come up with i belive. Black people are simply better athletes than white people. Faster, more agile and generally just more explosive on the whole. No real point deluding ourselves and trying to be PC about it, it's a stonewall fact. Conversely, white folks are, by and large, better equiped at the cerebral side of sports (i.e reading what is going on around them and making decisions) You need only look at american football to see this. In the positions where speed and athleticism are crucial, like running-back, reciever or cornerback, you will do well to find a white person in the entire league. You get some wide-recievers, admittedly, but most of these are "slot recievers" who generally are expected to work the middle of the field and spot open space in zone coverages (which further illustrates my point) rather than be big playmakers. On the other hand pretty much all the elite QB's, for my money the most mentally challenging position is sport, are white guys. There are exceptions to the rule of course, but this is the way it generally goes. What utter bollocks. Well, you've certainly disproven the arguement there. What argument? Do you really consider your sort of infantile reasoning an argument? It's racism dressed up in a spurious series of statements designed never to be able to be gainsaid and therefore not (in your world) disproven; any contrary statements serve only to confirm you in your prejudices. Your racist patter has no intellectual credibility whatsoever. Whatever. If acknowledging very obvious differences between people of different races makes me a racist then I guess I'm a racist. Good guess. Strange, I'd always assumed there was some element of discrimination involved. You generally attribute qualities' or lack of them' to people on the basis of their race (black people run faster, whites are more cerebral). This is racism. Surely basing an opinion on facts cant be classed as racism. I am not sure about the cerebral idea but the fact that black people are better athletes and are better runners is pure fact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Barcelona only draw at Bilbao. If Madrid beat Villarreal at home the title is theirs. Barca really are on a downer again. (Correct me if i'm wrong on any of this) Deco not happy, not getting enough games, turning up late to training. Ronaldinho not happy, become complacent, also missed training sessions etc... Zambrotta's wife is homesick and he wants to leave. Henry reportedly not settled in Spain either. Talk of Rijkaard getting sacked at the end of the season. There's probably a lot more that i don't know about on top of all that. I hope so. His Barca team on FM is well good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Define 'athlete'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 It's a bit of a myth that black people make better athletes while white people have higher IQ so therefore I think we can safely say that in Shak, we have a raving racist in our ranks. Irish b******. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Balloons not to blame - Eriksson Manchester City boss Sven-Goran Eriksson is refusing to blame balloons bobbling on the pitch for his side's 2-1 FA Cup defeat to Sheffield United. Opening line of the year! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Sheffield United manager Bryan Robson admitted the balloons definitely worked in his side's favour. This is brilliant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimistic nit Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Maybe they dont have the tactical skills as european players do, but the speed and offensive is beyond what any european country can come up with i belive. Black people are simply better athletes than white people. Faster, more agile and generally just more explosive on the whole. No real point deluding ourselves and trying to be PC about it, it's a stonewall fact. Conversely, white folks are, by and large, better equiped at the cerebral side of sports (i.e reading what is going on around them and making decisions) You need only look at american football to see this. In the positions where speed and athleticism are crucial, like running-back, reciever or cornerback, you will do well to find a white person in the entire league. You get some wide-recievers, admittedly, but most of these are "slot recievers" who generally are expected to work the middle of the field and spot open space in zone coverages (which further illustrates my point) rather than be big playmakers. On the other hand pretty much all the elite QB's, for my money the most mentally challenging position is sport, are white guys. There are exceptions to the rule of course, but this is the way it generally goes. What utter bollocks. Well, you've certainly disproven the arguement there. What argument? Do you really consider your sort of infantile reasoning an argument? It's racism dressed up in a spurious series of statements designed never to be able to be gainsaid and therefore not (in your world) disproven; any contrary statements serve only to confirm you in your prejudices. Your racist patter has no intellectual credibility whatsoever. i think he's got a very good point. he doesn't say black people are dumb and white people are cleaver, but you'd be a fucking idiot not to notice black men's superior athleticism. judging intilectual capcity is many times more difficult to judge but for whatever reason black men don't do as well in school as white men. no doubt this has many sociological factors but genes will of course provide an influence as well. black men aren't black by accident and white men aren't white by accident, they differ in genes. calling him a racist is nowt more than political correctness, and by the way i'm not saying that black men have genes that make them more stupid than white men, but it is open to debate, and even if i was saying that i would only be talking about an average in the population, not about specific individuals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Thanks for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dokko Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 It gets better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 'Blades burst City's balloon' The funniest part of this whole drama (soz speccy) is the fans reaction to the goal being conceded, not only the obvious disbelief, but you could see it dawning on them that it was in fact their own fault the goal went in. Priceless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 FOR FUCK'S SAKE. I came in this thread to review what folks had said about today's games, and I had to scroll back about five pages before any fucking football was even mentioned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delima Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 i think he's got a very good point. he doesn't say black people are dumb and white people are cleaver, but you'd be a f****** idiot not to notice black men's superior athleticism. judging intilectual capcity is many times more difficult to judge but for whatever reason black men don't do as well in school as white men. no doubt this has many sociological factors but genes will of course provide an influence as well. black men aren't black by accident and white men aren't white by accident, they differ in genes. calling him a racist is nowt more than political correctness, and by the way i'm not saying that black men have genes that make them more stupid than white men, but it is open to debate, and even if i was saying that i would only be talking about an average in the population, not about specific individuals. Optomystyc Knight what are you trying to say? You say you don't think blacks are genetically stupidier than whiteman, then only to proceed to say that if you had say so you mean blacks in general. So do you really NOT think that blacks are genetically stupidier? If you don't think blacks are genetically stupidier than whites then why do you say you think Shak has a point, which is the racist view that blacks are inherently more lacking in intellectual department? Don't forget previously you also said that you think it is many times more difficult to judge the intellectual capacity of a man. If you want to suggest someone a fucking idiot at least write some coherent post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 City players woz robbed! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7212383.stm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delima Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Surely basing an opinion on facts cant be classed as racism. I am not sure about the cerebral idea but the fact that black people are better athletes and are better runners is pure fact. You say you are not sure about the cerebral thing as a fact, so this can't be a fact to you. So Shaks makes a false generalisation that blacks are more lacking in intellectual compartment - surely he can be classed as a racist scum? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 FOR f***'S SAKE. I came in this thread to review what folks had said about today's games, and I had to scroll back about five pages before any f****** football was even mentioned. Just watch with wonder, couple of lads busy trying to open a reeeeaaallly big can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 If you don't think blacks are genetically stupidier than whites then why do you say you think Shak has a point, which is the racist view that blacks are inherently more lacking in intellectual department? No, I said that it's been pretty much shown that they haven't been as succesful in specialised positions in sport that are more cerebral than others, which nobody has offered anything in response to other than "Ooh, you're such a big racist". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 If you don't think blacks are genetically stupidier than whites then why do you say you think Shak has a point, which is the racist view that blacks are inherently more lacking in intellectual department? No, I said that it's been pretty much shown that they haven't been as succesful in specialised positions in sport that are more cerebral than others, which nobody has offered anything in response to other than "Ooh, you're such a big racist". I'm not saying i disagree, infact - i really don't have an opinion on such matters, but i don't understand why you're so surprised, Shak. Your post was always going to ignite an argument. What was the point man? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 If you don't think blacks are genetically stupidier than whites then why do you say you think Shak has a point, which is the racist view that blacks are inherently more lacking in intellectual department? No, I said that it's been pretty much shown that they haven't been as succesful in specialised positions in sport that are more cerebral than others, which nobody has offered anything in response to other than "Ooh, you're such a big racist". I'm not saying i disagree, infact - i really don't have an opinion on such matters, but i don't understand why you're so surprised, Shak. Your post was always going to ignite an argument. What was the point man? You're right like. Just a bit annoyed that people are taking it so badly and I'm such a big racist scum all of a sudden when I didn't mean anything bad by it, just stating something which I saw to be pretty obvious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Spectrum Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 'Blades burst City's balloon' The funniest part of this whole drama (soz speccy) is the fans reaction to the goal being conceded, not only the obvious disbelief, but you could see it dawning on them that it was in fact their own fault the goal went in. Priceless. I can see why its funny. I even posted in an atroticously puntastic baloon jokes thread. My favourite was "Baloon, you saw me standing alone...." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delima Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 As I said, there are exceptions. But yes. Generally, in sports, this is the case. Are you telling me its just a big coincidence that the 10 greatest NFL quarterbacks of all time are white, while the 10 greatest running backs are all black? Again, apologies if you're offended, but I really don't see the point in blindly pretending that there aren't differences between different races of people that make some of them more suitable for certain things than others. One can make physical difference of different peoples easily - different skin colours, hair colours etc. But why classify people based on skin colours, and not say length of penis, diameter of pussy, depth of arseholes? Of course you are a racist person who indulges in classifying people by skin colour first and foremost. There could be many reasons why best quarterbacks are supposedly white - The coaches are racist and take easy assumption that whites are intellectually superior - Blacks are physically more fit so they are play more physical positions, so that an advantage could be gained. And while the best blacks play in physical positions, so the white play in less physical demanding positions. - The population of white is bigger thant the population of blacks in America Just take a look at some greatest footballers in the history: - Pele - black - Ronaldinho - black - Weah - black It is plain stupididity to use an all time top 10 quarter back list to suggest that blacks are inherently stupidier. Just look at football, the reason we all are here, and you will know your racist view would not stand. Yet you cherrypick figures to back your opinion - if you are not racist then what are you? Ignorant? You are a racist and I am glad you acknowledge it. You should be banned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Shut up mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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