SUPERTOON Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Position (prior year position) Club Revenue (£m) Revenue (€m) 1 (1) Real Madrid 236.2 351.0 2 (4) Manchester United 212.1 315.2 3 (2) FC Barcelona 195.3 290.1 4 (6) Chelsea 190.5 283.0 5 (9) Arsenal 177.6 263.9 6 (5) AC Milan 153.0 227.2 7 (8) Bayern Munich 150.3 223.3 8 (10) Liverpool 133.9 198.9 9 (7) Internazionale 131.3 195.0 10 (12) AS Roma 106.1 157.6 11 (15) Tottenham Hotspur 103.1 153.1 12 (3) Juventus 97.7 145.2 13 (11) Olympique Lyonnais 94.6 140.6 14 (13) Newcastle United 87.1 129.4 15 (16) Hamburg SV 81.0 120.4 16 (14) Schalke 04 76.9 114.3 17 (n/a) Celtic 75.2 111.8 18 (n/a) Valencia 72.4 107.6 19 (n/a) Olympique de Marseille 66.6 99.0 20 (n/a) Werder Bremen 65.5 97.3 NEWCASTLE United have dropped a place in football's 'rich list' - but are still among the 20 wealthiest clubs in the world. The Magpies' slump in fortunes over the last year has seen them fall from 13th place to 14th, based on revenue. Manchester United have climbed two places to second in the latest Football Money League from business advisory firm Deloitte, which ranks the 20 biggest football clubs in the world based on revenue. Real Madrid remain the world's largest revenue-generating club, completing a hat-trick of first-place finishes. Analysis in the Football Money League is based on the latest financial information for the 2006/07 season. Manchester United arejoined in the top five by Chelsea and Arsenal. Chelsea have climbed two places to fourth, while Arsenal are the biggest climber in the 2007 Money League, rising four places to fifth. Spanish giants Barcelona have dropped one place from second to third. Dan Jones, Partner in the Sports Business Group at Deloitte, commented: "This is the first time that any country has had three clubs in the top five of the Money League. "Arsenal's move to the Emirates Stadium has transformed their revenues, whilst Chelsea's revenue increase sees them return to the top five." Real Madrid and Manchester United became the first football clubs to generate more than €300m in a season. Real enjoyed an impressive 20 per cent increase to take their total revenue to €351m (£236m), whilst Manchester United's revenue grew even more quickly to reach €315m (£212m). Jones added: "With the new Premier League television deals now online for the 2007/08 season, Manchester United have the opportunity to significantly close the gap on Real and a successful Champions League run may even see them challenge again for the number one position." Football remains a growth sport, especially at the highest level. The top 20 clubs' collective revenues grew by 11 per cent to €3.7bn (£2.5bn) in 2006/07, the highest rate of growth since 2002/03. The top 20 clubs now generate more than three times the combined revenues of the clubs in the first Money League in 1996/97. The global top 20 is entirely populated by European clubs. Six English clubs feature in this year's Money League, along with four clubs from each of Germany and Italy, three Spanish clubs, two French clubs and one from Scotland - Celtic. Post-World Cup there are more German clubs in the Money League than ever before. Alan Switzer, Director in the Sports Business Group, says: "The performance of German clubs particularly catches the eye, with enhanced revenues being generated from new and improved stadia. "The stadium is a club's biggest asset, and the majority of the Money League clubs are looking to complete stadium developments in the short and medium term." While the number of English clubs in this season's Money League dropped from eight to six, next year the number could significantly increase. Paul Rawnsley, director of Deloitte's sports business group, said: "Clubs such as Aston Villa, Everton, Manchester City and West Ham United are already just outside the top 20. "With the revenue uplift from the new broadcast deals now benefiting the clubs, we expect to see the bottom half of next year's Money League dominated by English teams." http://www.shieldsgazette.com/nufc/Man-U-Chelsea-Arsenal-Liverpool.3774205.jp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Spuds quite a bit ahead of us Results not too bad considering how bad we have been the last 2-3 seasons. If Ashley can develop us over the next 3-5 years i can see us easily getting back into the top 8 if not the top 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Just to reiterate; nobody makes money out out football, and anyone who invests in it is a crazy romantic fool. Thanks for saving us, Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 How would Spurs be so far ahead of the Toon? I haven't got a hang up about Spurs like some on here just curious as to how they would have more! Surely league positions and them being in Europe does not account for a £16million difference? Bearing in mind we get a lot bigger crowds. If these figures are accurate then it again highlights how mismanaged the club has been in the past! Though that's hardly a surprise! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 How would Spurs be so far ahead of the Toon? I haven't got a hang up about Spurs like some on here just curious as to how they would have more! Surely league positions and them being in Europe does not account for a £16million difference? Bearing in mind we get a lot bigger crowds. If these figures are accurate then it again highlights how mismanaged the club has been in the past! Though that's hardly a surprise! Why give a fuck? It's not like a works lottery syndicate, where they divvy it all out to us at the end of the year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 I had a bizarre nightmare last night -- Fat Fred had reassumed control of the club and gave a press conference talking about all the great things he was going to accomplish. That's all I remember. Wonder what Freud would've made of that. Anyway... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Wow, how come Spurs income has gone up so much? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 they signed a huge sponsorship deal with mansion and finished far higher than us in the league which probably accounts for the gap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Spuds quite a bit ahead of us Results not too bad considering how bad we have been the last 2-3 seasons. If Ashley can develop us over the next 3-5 years i can see us easily getting back into the top 8 if not the top 6 Either that or raise season ticket prices! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
indi Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Just to reiterate; nobody makes money out out football, and anyone who invests in it is a crazy romantic fool. Thanks for saving us, Mike. There's a huge difference between revenue and profit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Just to reiterate; nobody makes money out out football, and anyone who invests in it is a crazy romantic fool. Thanks for saving us, Mike. There's a huge difference between revenue and profit. So you reckon we spend more than £87 million a year on wages and transfers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 It's £87m isn't it? The second figure is euros. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 It's £87m isn't it? The second figure is euros. Oh, sorry. We're a co-operative then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Just saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
indi Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Just to reiterate; nobody makes money out out football, and anyone who invests in it is a crazy romantic fool. Thanks for saving us, Mike. There's a huge difference between revenue and profit. So you reckon we spend more than £130 million a year on wages and transfers? No, I don't know, but I know Chelsea have been making fucking HUGE losses these last few years. I also reckon that there are numerous ways Ashley could make much larger returns on however many hundreds of millions of pounds he eventually ends up investing in NUFC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Just to reiterate; nobody makes money out out football, and anyone who invests in it is a crazy romantic fool. Thanks for saving us, Mike. There's a huge difference between revenue and profit. So you reckon we spend more than £87 million a year on wages and transfers? spent more than that iirc, at least we did under shepherd when we were losing money each month. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 "One of the principles was we wanted short-term success on the field," said Buck. "If we had not accepted that as a basic principle maybe we would have developed a different business plan." "We realised from day one we had to find a way to make this club profitable in the long term." "We are working towards a long-term position where this club can sustain itself without outside financial support." Just a few quotes from Chelsea's chairman. By the way, the money Abramovich has spent on Chelsea is in the form of 'non-interest-bearing loans'. For what it's worth, I hope Ashley makes a shitload of money - off the back of the success he hopefully steers us towards. Not thanking him until he does, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
indi Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 According to this: http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/PLCDetail/0,,10278~733426,00.html in 2005 we made £6m before player trading and amortisation, and our pre-tax profits were actually only £4.5m, meaning that after tax we'd have make basically £fuck all. If you look here: http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/staticFiles/ea/3d/0,,10278~81386,00.pdf it appears as though in 2006 we made a £12m LOSS (page 33 or 35, depending on what you're looking at). So it's hardly a cash cow is it!?! How much has Ashley invested in NUFC to-date? £150m? You realise that if he'd put that in the bank at 6% he'd have made £9m plus by the end of the year? You realise that when you've got that kind of money you have access to investments that pay a lot more than 6% per year? Like I said, there's a HUGE difference between revenue and profit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 According to this: http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/PLCDetail/0,,10278~733426,00.html in 2005 we made £6m before player trading and amortisation, and our pre-tax profits were actually only £4.5m, meaning that after tax we'd have make basically £fuck all. Shepherd and the Halls got their cut before that. Foreign investors coming out of every corner of the world, desperate to get a piece of the pie, season tickets and tv deals rising every year, but still, nobody makes any money out of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 How would Spurs be so far ahead of the Toon? I haven't got a hang up about Spurs like some on here just curious as to how they would have more! Surely league positions and them being in Europe does not account for a £16million difference? Bearing in mind we get a lot bigger crowds. If these figures are accurate then it again highlights how mismanaged the club has been in the past! Though that's hardly a surprise! Seeing as NE5 seems to be absent I will make his point on behalf of him: you don´t get in the top 15 of financial powerhouses in world football by being mismanaged. Now if only it could translate to some decent results on the pitch.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 According to this: http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/PLCDetail/0,,10278~733426,00.html in 2005 we made £6m before player trading and amortisation, and our pre-tax profits were actually only £4.5m, meaning that after tax we'd have make basically £fuck all. Shepherd and the Halls got their cut before that. Foreign investors coming out of every corner of the world, desperate to get a piece of the pie, season tickets and tv deals rising every year, but still, nobody makes any money out of it. The players? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Looks like the weekly debate about Shepherd where the same point is raised all the time will happen in this thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Fair play to Spurs, they've done things the right way and overtaken us quite easily, all while remaining debt free. No point in being bitter about it, it's up to us to close the gap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 How would Spurs be so far ahead of the Toon? I haven't got a hang up about Spurs like some on here just curious as to how they would have more! Surely league positions and them being in Europe does not account for a £16million difference? Bearing in mind we get a lot bigger crowds. If these figures are accurate then it again highlights how mismanaged the club has been in the past! Though that's hardly a surprise! Seeing as NE5 seems to be absent I will make his point on behalf of him: you don´t get in the top 15 of financial powerhouses in world football by being mismanaged. Now if only it could translate to some decent results on the pitch.. That's why we are seen as a big club by some. Truth is if someone like citeh, villa or the spuds take on what we've gone through they'd sink. Fanbase and mainly gate receipts keeps this club in the zombie like state its been in for years. The catch is ever present in the shell of a club we call our own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Fair play to Spurs, they've done things the right way and overtaken us quite easily, all while remaining debt free. No point in being bitter about it, it's up to us to close the gap. i thought they had a shit board and their DOF system was a shambles... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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