Guest nufc_geordie Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Porto lose Champions League place Portuguese champions Porto have been excluded from next season's Champions League over alleged bribery of referees in the 2003/04 season. The allegations relate to Porto's 2-0 win against Estrela da Amadora and their 0-0 draw with Beira Mar. Porto won their domestic title and the Champions League in 2003/04 under their former coach Jose Mourinho, who has not been mentioned in any allegations. The club has already confirmed it will appeal against Uefa's decision. Porto won their domestic title in 2004 by eight points from runners-up Benfica. Last month, they were found guilty by the Portuguese league of fixing the two league matches in question. As a result Porto were docked six points, but they decided not to appeal against that decision on the grounds the club had a substantial lead in the league. The punishment did not affect final standings as Porto still won last season's title for the third time in a row, 14 points ahead of Sporting Lisbon. However, the club's president Jorge Pinto da Costa has appealed against a two-year suspension and he will go to trial in a civil lawsuit by Porto prosecutors. Boavista were relegated to the second division for their part in the match-fixing. The affair, which came to light in April 2004, also resulted in five referees being suspended for periods between two-and-a-half and six years. The referees were found guilty of accepting the offer of prostitutes after matches, while in once case an official received 2,500 Euros prior to a match. Strange that they never got relegated the same as Boavista and only got a 6pt deduction in the league. From the outside and without knowing all of the facts it looks like double standards to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Porto are a big club in Portugal, Boavista are. See West Ham & AFC Wimbledon for reference in the English game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToonArmy Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 time to stick in a bid for Quaresma, Lucho, Bruno Alves and co Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Mian miss out and all hell break lose, wonder how many teams are going to get thrown out untill they come back in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sam Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 CSKA have been kicked out aswell cos of severe debts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 CSKA have been kicked out aswell cos of severe debts. Chelsea next! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Surely this increases the likelihood of Jo leaving? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Jo plays for CSKA Moscow, not CSKA Sofia doesn't he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Me stoopid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Jo plays for CSKA Moscow, not CSKA Sofia doesn't he? pwned Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 CSKA have been kicked out aswell cos of severe debts. Chelsea next! Man Utd have higher debts than Chelsea, I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 CSKA have been kicked out aswell cos of severe debts. the whole thing is such a joke you wouldn't even believe it.. CSKA's boss is this former pseudo-politician who is known in Bulgaria as the biggest liar that communism ever produced.. the media are hysteric, fans are fighting, politicians are lying.. all in all quality entertainment for somebody who supports the rival Levski Sofia (they'll replace CSKA in the CL ) although you lot obviously don't understand bulgarian it'd be worth it to check the following vids, for the sheer amount of abuse and aggression they contain.. first one is from the official press conference of the club, the second is the police escorting the cska boss out of the press-conference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGhKMsZDi30 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_5BzZ0zZog Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Knowing some of our backdoor entries (ooo-err) into Europe in recent years, I'm surprised we don't get one of their places. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcmichael Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Newcastle in Europe after all? Take a look at this article http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=722703 The normal procedure is that the BFU send the runner-up Levski Sofia to the CL instead, however it is reported that instead of this, the highest UEFA ranked team not already in the competition will be the replacement, and this is Milan. According to this, Milan will take CSKA's Champions League spot, because they're the highest ranked team, who's not already in the competition. Porto is also out of the tournament and that means that Sevilla as the 2nd highest ranked team af Milan, will take their place. Now it becomes interesting because the next team on the list is Newcastle, and if UEFA decides to use this rule, then it should also count in the UEFA cup, and who will then take over Milan and Sevillas UEFA cup qualifications? According to UEFA's rules, it should be Newcastle. 1 Chelsea Eng 22.7125 25.1385 17.7610 28.4860 30.8985 124.996 2 AC Milan Ita 16.9285 31.6200 26.0675 27.9360 17.3825 119.934 3 Liverpool Eng 14.7125 30.1385 17.7610 29.4860 26.8985 118.996 4 FC Barcelona Esp 16.7230 17.1040 34.1620 20.2700 29.5785 117.837 5 Arsenal Eng 17.7125 19.1385 31.7610 18.4860 23.8985 110.996 6 Manchester United Eng 15.7125 17.1385 12.7610 27.4860 34.8985 107.996 7 Sevilla Esp 4.7230 16.1040 30.1620 31.2700 20.5785 102.837 8 Olympique Lyon Fra 18.4550 23.7710 24.5680 18.3000 14.2860 99.380 9 Internazionale Ita 15.9285 22.6200 24.0675 16.9360 17.3825 96.934 10 Real Madrid Esp 21.7230 18.1040 17.1620 20.2700 16.5785 93.837 11 Bayern München Ger 10.5555 19.4885 17.4440 20.1350 24.4550 92.078 12 PSV Eindhoven Ned 17.7875 24.9600 13.5025 17.7105 17.6500 91.610 13 Villarreal Esp 20.7230 22.1040 24.1620 6.2700 17.5785 90.837 14 Newcastle United Eng 24.7125 27.1385 4.7610 22.4860 5.8985 84.996 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Told ya. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Oh God no, this is going to be the Fair Play League all over again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Dear me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Oh God no, this is going to be the Fair Play League all over again. So are we in or not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Newcastle in Europe after all? Take a look at this article http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=722703 The normal procedure is that the BFU send the runner-up Levski Sofia to the CL instead, however it is reported that instead of this, the highest UEFA ranked team not already in the competition will be the replacement, and this is Milan. According to this, Milan will take CSKA's Champions League spot, because they're the highest ranked team, who's not already in the competition. Porto is also out of the tournament and that means that Sevilla as the 2nd highest ranked team af Milan, will take their place. Now it becomes interesting because the next team on the list is Newcastle, and if UEFA decides to use this rule, then it should also count in the UEFA cup, and who will then take over Milan and Sevillas UEFA cup qualifications? According to UEFA's rules, it should be Newcastle. 1 Chelsea Eng 22.7125 25.1385 17.7610 28.4860 30.8985 124.996 2 AC Milan Ita 16.9285 31.6200 26.0675 27.9360 17.3825 119.934 3 Liverpool Eng 14.7125 30.1385 17.7610 29.4860 26.8985 118.996 4 FC Barcelona Esp 16.7230 17.1040 34.1620 20.2700 29.5785 117.837 5 Arsenal Eng 17.7125 19.1385 31.7610 18.4860 23.8985 110.996 6 Manchester United Eng 15.7125 17.1385 12.7610 27.4860 34.8985 107.996 7 Sevilla Esp 4.7230 16.1040 30.1620 31.2700 20.5785 102.837 8 Olympique Lyon Fra 18.4550 23.7710 24.5680 18.3000 14.2860 99.380 9 Internazionale Ita 15.9285 22.6200 24.0675 16.9360 17.3825 96.934 10 Real Madrid Esp 21.7230 18.1040 17.1620 20.2700 16.5785 93.837 11 Bayern München Ger 10.5555 19.4885 17.4440 20.1350 24.4550 92.078 12 PSV Eindhoven Ned 17.7875 24.9600 13.5025 17.7105 17.6500 91.610 13 Villarreal Esp 20.7230 22.1040 24.1620 6.2700 17.5785 90.837 14 Newcastle United Eng 24.7125 27.1385 4.7610 22.4860 5.8985 84.996 honestly speaking it should be the next bulgarian team but i wouldn't put it past uefa to find a way to squeeze in another team from one of the richer leagues and it wouild just be bloody typical of us to get it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Pmsl if we end up in europe after the season we just had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcmichael Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Newcastle in Europe after all? Take a look at this article http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=722703 The normal procedure is that the BFU send the runner-up Levski Sofia to the CL instead, however it is reported that instead of this, the highest UEFA ranked team not already in the competition will be the replacement, and this is Milan. According to this, Milan will take CSKA's Champions League spot, because they're the highest ranked team, who's not already in the competition. Porto is also out of the tournament and that means that Sevilla as the 2nd highest ranked team af Milan, will take their place. Now it becomes interesting because the next team on the list is Newcastle, and if UEFA decides to use this rule, then it should also count in the UEFA cup, and who will then take over Milan and Sevillas UEFA cup qualifications? According to UEFA's rules, it should be Newcastle. 1 Chelsea Eng 22.7125 25.1385 17.7610 28.4860 30.8985 124.996 2 AC Milan Ita 16.9285 31.6200 26.0675 27.9360 17.3825 119.934 3 Liverpool Eng 14.7125 30.1385 17.7610 29.4860 26.8985 118.996 4 FC Barcelona Esp 16.7230 17.1040 34.1620 20.2700 29.5785 117.837 5 Arsenal Eng 17.7125 19.1385 31.7610 18.4860 23.8985 110.996 6 Manchester United Eng 15.7125 17.1385 12.7610 27.4860 34.8985 107.996 7 Sevilla Esp 4.7230 16.1040 30.1620 31.2700 20.5785 102.837 8 Olympique Lyon Fra 18.4550 23.7710 24.5680 18.3000 14.2860 99.380 9 Internazionale Ita 15.9285 22.6200 24.0675 16.9360 17.3825 96.934 10 Real Madrid Esp 21.7230 18.1040 17.1620 20.2700 16.5785 93.837 11 Bayern München Ger 10.5555 19.4885 17.4440 20.1350 24.4550 92.078 12 PSV Eindhoven Ned 17.7875 24.9600 13.5025 17.7105 17.6500 91.610 13 Villarreal Esp 20.7230 22.1040 24.1620 6.2700 17.5785 90.837 14 Newcastle United Eng 24.7125 27.1385 4.7610 22.4860 5.8985 84.996 honestly speaking it should be the next bulgarian team but i wouldn't put it past uefa to find a way to squeeze in another team from one of the richer leagues and it wouild just be bloody typical of us to get it. I agree with you, but as you say, UEFA would rather have the big teams in it.... But I don't know how realistic this is, it would be typical for Newcastle though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 As much as I'd love to believe this, no way would UEFA allow 5 Italian & Spanish clubs in the Champions League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Can't see it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcmichael Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Sevilla is actually not important in this matter, the matter is that IF UEFA decides to give Milan the CL spot, who would then take over Milans UEFA cup spot... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 the next club in the bulgarian league (Levski) get the place, it has already been confirmed. the papers in Italy published the story that Milan can replace CSKA in the CL yesterday, but that was denied by UEFA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now