mrmojorisin75 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 if true all perfectly backs up what NE5's been saying for ages; that the new owner doesn't understand football for what it's worth i reckon we'd have seen a similar decline under shepherd had he still been in charge but the lad might be right if this continues, maybe he just doesn't get it? maybe he's had his wanker spurs fan mates telling him we're mugs and will turn up to watch dogshit every week so he went and bought the club on the back of that? maybe not, we'll see... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I've often wondered is it in clubs' interest to sell more season tickets? Your crowds will probably be the same next year as they were this. If they do that with fewer season tickets sold, that means a higher take per seat over the season, with individual match tickets costing more. We've capped our ST numbers at 27k, which is the number we had last year. The board have said that they want as many tickets available for the "occasional" supporter as possible. 42k minus 3k away fans minus 27k STs leaves 12k match day tickets per game. Their reasoning doesn't really stand up, it looks clearly like they're maximising income from those non ST tickets, an argument which would point at Ashley probably not being that bothered if your ST sales are down. Clubs are pretty clever money making machines these days, they've probably thought of all the points in the thread above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I've often wondered is it in clubs' interest to sell more season tickets? Your crowds will probably be the same next year as they were this. If they do that with fewer season tickets sold, that means a higher take per seat over the season, with individual match tickets costing more. We've capped our ST numbers at 27k, which is the number we had last year. The board have said that they want as many tickets available for the "occasional" supporter as possible. 42k minus 3k away fans minus 27k STs leaves 12k match day tickets per game. Their reasoning doesn't really stand up, it looks clearly like they're maximising income from those non ST tickets, an argument which would point at Ashley probably not being that bothered if your ST sales are down. Clubs are pretty clever money making machines these days, they've probably thought of all the points in the thread above. makes sense....so er, shit, maybe ashley does understand football!!!??!?!! fuck i'm lost, without a concrete standpoint to argue pointlessly i can't continue, goodbye cruel world... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I reckon that even if they don't sell the allocation, the majority of home games will still have a decent attendance with people just paying for individual games whenever they fancy. Obviously with games like Bolton we'll have low attendances though. Who knows who we're going to sign. 1 or 2 big signings and I can see there being a rush to buy season tickets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Well having a 28% increase and then being told by the customer services manager at SJP, that having the seat bond only entitles us to free cup tickets and not lower prices is taking the piss. He has really shot himself in the foot with the lack of a one year pay monthly thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 i'm not so sure the 'make a signing before renewal date' argument holds water, IF we make a few good signings then people will go and take up the left over tickets. whether its renewals or new applications doesn't make a difference to the club, the price is still the same and the season doesnt start until august. missed the point, if we'd went and signed jimmy fucking bullard or someone it wouldn't have made the slightest bit of difference, the point surely is to "say" to the fans things are gonna get better by indicating it with a (EDIT) 'trophy' signing right now no-one has a clue what the clubs intentions are and that explains a drop in renewals (assuming it's correct) going out now and signing another alan smith, david rozenthal or cacapa won't change shit either mind absolutely nothing in your post brings me any closer to getting this 'point' that i missed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Thing is despite last season overall being awful, we did play so much better at the end when the Keegan factor really kicked in and certain players started believing in themselves and wanting to play. Our front 3 looked great, Barton looked like an international and even the back 4 looked like a unit. I think we have to trust Keegan when he says we need a few quality players to add to an already decent squad and not panic cos we haven't (yet) been linked with every Johnny Foreigner who's had a half decent Euro 2008. Keegan has a good record of investing wisely in players and this board's philosophy and business acumen is completely different to the last, which is no bad thing. Trust those who are in charge, don't panic and look forward to a much more positive season than the last one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Thing is despite last season overall being awful, we did play so much better at the end when the Keegan factor really kicked in and certain players started believing in themselves and wanting to play. Our front 3 looked great, Barton looked like an international and even the back 4 looked like a unit. I think we have to trust Keegan when he says we need a few quality players to add to an already decent squad and not panic cos we haven't (yet) been linked with every Johnny Foreigner who's had a half decent Euro 2008. Keegan has a good record of investing wisely in players and this board's philosophy and business acumen is completely different to the last, which is no bad thing. Trust those who are in charge, don't panic and look forward to a much more positive season than the last one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Panic is the new calm tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Works out at 30 quid a game for the cheapest seats then... My renewal works out at £18 per game. Just been up to choose our new seats. The "singing section" is still pretty much completely empty. Outside of the front five rows we were offered any seat we wanted in the corner. Bloke that showed us our seats said virtually everyone who's been up has complained about it. Either everyone moved has picked somewhere other than the corner, or they haven't renewed at all. Whatever the case, tomorrow being the last day to choose seats suggests the singing corner has been a damp squib amongst existing season ticket holders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Works out at 30 quid a game for the cheapest seats then... My renewal works out at £18 per game. Just been up to choose our new seats. The "singing section" is still pretty much completely empty. Outside of the front five rows we were offered any seat we wanted in the corner. Bloke that showed us our seats said virtually everyone who's been up has complained about it. Either everyone moved has picked somewhere other than the corner, or they haven't renewed at all. Whatever the case, tomorrow being the last day to choose seats suggests the singing corner has been a damp squib amongst existing season ticket holders. Anyone who takes the 'Singing section' is a mug. It's all well and good getting a cheaper season ticket, but the prices will rise, and you'll be paying the same as what you used to for a decent view. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Works out at 30 quid a game for the cheapest seats then... My renewal works out at £18 per game. Just been up to choose our new seats. The "singing section" is still pretty much completely empty. Outside of the front five rows we were offered any seat we wanted in the corner. Bloke that showed us our seats said virtually everyone who's been up has complained about it. Either everyone moved has picked somewhere other than the corner, or they haven't renewed at all. Whatever the case, tomorrow being the last day to choose seats suggests the singing corner has been a damp squib amongst existing season ticket holders. Anyone who takes the 'Singing section' is a mug. It's all well and good getting a cheaper season ticket, but the prices will rise, and you'll be paying the same as what you used to for a decent view. I'll sit anywhere with the same 6 lads I've been going with for years. If I could sit on my todd with a great view for half the price I'd knock it back. The craic is all that's entertained me for 4 years now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slugsy Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Tomorrow aint the last day, I had to reschedule duie to work to next monday for a consultation appt and when I asked when the deadline was, the guys said mid July!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Tomorrow aint the last day, I had to reschedule duie to work to next monday for a consultation appt and when I asked when the deadline was, the guys said mid July!!! When does the general sale start then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slugsy Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Good question, to be honest, I take everything they sau with a pinch of salt, couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I'll sit anywhere with the same 6 lads I've been going with for years. If I could sit on my todd with a great view for half the price I'd knock it back. The craic is all that's entertained me for 4 years now. The craic is defo important like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkwdavis2001 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I got an email off the box office today after I emailed them about the general sale. All they would say is watch out on the website. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I'm a mug like seeing as I've gone for the 3 year option. The fucking cunts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I'm a mug like seeing as I've gone for the 3 year option. The fucking cunts. Me too. Guaranteed £18 a match for 3 years. It's not too shabby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I'll sit anywhere with the same 6 lads I've been going with for years. If I could sit on my todd with a great view for half the price I'd knock it back. The craic is all that's entertained me for 4 years now. The craic is defo important like. Aye, but that's got bugger all to do with the offer though. You should be able to get all six of you together, elsewhere in the ground. Eventually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I think the three year thing's pretty good if you can afford it. Can't see the next two summers being increase-free, so it'll get 'cheaper' too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I'll sit anywhere with the same 6 lads I've been going with for years. If I could sit on my todd with a great view for half the price I'd knock it back. The craic is all that's entertained me for 4 years now. The craic is defo important like. Aye, but that's got bugger all to do with the offer though. You should be able to get all six of you together, elsewhere in the ground. Just a general comment really that one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I'll sit anywhere with the same 6 lads I've been going with for years. If I could sit on my todd with a great view for half the price I'd knock it back. The craic is all that's entertained me for 4 years now. The craic is defo important like. Aye, but that's got bugger all to do with the offer though. You should be able to get all six of you together, elsewhere in the ground. Eventually. But we couldn't next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iklgizmo Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 ive renewed, but only just, so i didnt take the option of 3 years because i dont know if i'l want the ticket next year. Used to say i would never give my ticket up, but now im getting older there are other things to spend money on, plus, we dont get much back for our loyalty. Heard from someone who does the ground tours that they are really struggling to sell the boxes this season because of the 30% increase in prices Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Souness? Aye, I'll renew. Roeder? Aye, I'll renew. Allardyce? Aye, I'll renew. Keegan? Fuck it. I'm sick. Can't understand the mentality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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