Guest Pie Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 When he is completely shite there what will we do with him? Put him at centre half and say its not his fault he isnt fast enough, tall enough etc? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 When he is completely shite there what will we do with him? Put him at centre half and say its not his fault he isnt fast enough, tall enough etc? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest elbee909 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 When he is completely shite there what will we do with him? Put him at centre half and say its not his fault he isnt fast enough, tall enough etc? It's Kieron Dyer all over again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I'd assumed Guthrie was going to be our DM for the future? Didn't Keegan say something to that effect recently? So I'd imagine he and Butt will be competing for a spot at the start of the season, with the other providing back-up. I think we're fine at DM, but we could definitely do with a quality attack minded central player. As for Milner in the center, I think it could work in a 4-3-3 with a proper DM and a playmaker beside him, allowing Milner to play the box-to-box role. Reckon he'd be useful there, but in a 4-4-2 where he'd be expected to pull the strings for us going forward I can't see him proving a success at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Just because Damien Duff scores a hat-trick everyone thinks he should play, he will have to play well in every pre-season match to tell me if he should start in the coming season, because he has been abysmal since joining, takes more than a match against 'pool for me to think hes good. Same with Milner in the middle, if KK plans are for him in the middle, then he must do a good job throughout most of the pre-season. N'Zogbia will be a massive player next season imo, hopefully in the Barton/Geremi role of last season. My midfield would be: Butt Spiderman/Milner N'Zogbia Guthrie/Barton (may be good in this role) Unless Keegan plays 4-4-2, then that is the chance to test out Milner in the middle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrette Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Just because Damien Duff scores a hat-trick everyone thinks he should play No-one is saying that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicago_shearer Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Duff/Zog - Barton - Guthrie - Jonas would be my first choice as things stand. And it looks shit tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Not sure Milner has the mobility to do it in the middle of the park. He's got a good engine and he'll run all day but he's not 'nippy' enough imo. I've explained that poorly tbh. What I mean is he's got the stamina but not the speed to get him all over when and where he's needed. Still sounds shit but I know what I mean. :-[ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrette Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Zog - Milner - Butt/Guthrie - Gutierrez at the moment for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Not sure Milner has the mobility to do it in the middle of the park. He's got a good engine and he'll run all day but he's not 'nippy' enough imo. I've explained that poorly tbh. What I mean is he's got the stamina but not the speed to get him all over when and where he's needed. Still sounds shit but I know what I mean. :-[ His movement isn't fast enough you mean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I've seen nothing in Guthrie to suggest he's ready to take over the role of a holding man any time soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Not sure Milner has the mobility to do it in the middle of the park. He's got a good engine and he'll run all day but he's not 'nippy' enough imo. I've explained that poorly tbh. What I mean is he's got the stamina but not the speed to get him all over when and where he's needed. Still sounds shit but I know what I mean. :-[ His movement isn't fast enough you mean Aye, I suppose. He's a plodder who'll not stop running......just not quickly enough to get about the park. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrette Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I've seen nothing in Guthrie to suggest he's ready to take over the role of a holding man any time soon. Yeah nor have I but it's not like we're stocked up with other options as it stands. Obviously I hope that situation changes by the end of the window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toptoon Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I like Milner alot, quality young player! Very versatile. Yes give him a run in the middle, see how he does. deffo keep him though for the wing even if it doesn't work out in the middle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I hope Guthrie comes in and is a better player, one friendly against Hartlepool where Duff got a hattrick probably isn't the best place to judge though. Does that count as a bite? A fair bite though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Worth a try during pre-season, he has the engine to do it effectively but not the quality and he'll be shown up in that role in the Premiership imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I think he has very similar attributes to Frank Lampard. Very good fitness levels Good on both sids Not the quickest Great shot off both sides I think it could work, as long as he is given the opportunity to progress by the management AND the fans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I think he has very similar attributes to Frank Lampard. Very good fitness levels Good on both sids Not the quickest Great shot off both sides I think it could work, as long as he is given the opportunity to progress ny the management AND the fans That's the fucking post of the year. I think he's more like Ronaldo though, so perhaps we could stick him up front from time to time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I think he has very similar attributes to Frank Lampard. Very good fitness levels Good on both sids Not the quickest Great shot off both sides I think it could work, as long as he is given the opportunity to progress ny the management AND the fans That's the f***ing post of the year. I think he's more like Ronaldo though, so perhaps we could stick him up front from time to time. lowest form of wit! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Not sure Milner has the mobility to do it in the middle of the park. He's got a good engine and he'll run all day but he's not 'nippy' enough imo. I've explained that poorly tbh. What I mean is he's got the stamina but not the speed to get him all over when and where he's needed. Still sounds s*** but I know what I mean. :-[ His movement isn't fast enough you mean Aye, I suppose. He's a plodder who'll not stop running......just not quickly enough to get about the park. Personally find the idea that Milner is so slow that he can't even play in the center of the park laughable. The man's not a tortoise FFS. Slower players have played at CM just fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Just because Damien Duff scores a hat-trick everyone thinks he should play No-one is saying that. Tbf in the match thread a canny few were actually talking about a resurgence in him without actually seeing him at said match, when yes he scored a hat-trick against lower league opposition but it was still the same old Duff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Not sure Milner has the mobility to do it in the middle of the park. He's got a good engine and he'll run all day but he's not 'nippy' enough imo. I've explained that poorly tbh. What I mean is he's got the stamina but not the speed to get him all over when and where he's needed. Still sounds s*** but I know what I mean. :-[ His movement isn't fast enough you mean Aye, I suppose. He's a plodder who'll not stop running......just not quickly enough to get about the park. Personally find the idea that Milner is so slow that he can't even play in the center of the park laughable. The man's not a tortoise FFS. Slower players have played at CM just fine. you're not allowed to say that,pace is everything,technique,vision and reading of the game are pointless if he's not an olympic standard sprinter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Not sure Milner has the mobility to do it in the middle of the park. He's got a good engine and he'll run all day but he's not 'nippy' enough imo. I've explained that poorly tbh. What I mean is he's got the stamina but not the speed to get him all over when and where he's needed. Still sounds s*** but I know what I mean. :-[ His movement isn't fast enough you mean Aye, I suppose. He's a plodder who'll not stop running......just not quickly enough to get about the park. Personally find the idea that Milner is so slow that he can't even play in the center of the park laughable. The man's not a tortoise FFS. Slower players have played at CM just fine. Agreed. Milner just needs to make more goals and score them to be considered a viable prospect as an attacking midifelder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrette Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Just because Damien Duff scores a hat-trick everyone thinks he should play No-one is saying that. Tbf in the match thread a canny few were actually talking about a resurgence in him without actually seeing him at said match, when yes he scored a hat-trick against lower league opposition but it was still the same old Duff. Fair enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Not sure Milner has the mobility to do it in the middle of the park. He's got a good engine and he'll run all day but he's not 'nippy' enough imo. I've explained that poorly tbh. What I mean is he's got the stamina but not the speed to get him all over when and where he's needed. Still sounds s*** but I know what I mean. :-[ His movement isn't fast enough you mean Aye, I suppose. He's a plodder who'll not stop running......just not quickly enough to get about the park. Personally find the idea that Milner is so slow that he can't even play in the center of the park laughable. The man's not a tortoise FFS. Slower players have played at CM just fine. Never said he was tbh. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how he does if or when Keegan decides to play him as a CM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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