midds Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 If the Jonas registration is true, then I have to assume they will get that resolved in time for Sunday. They can't afford not to. They have had a month and a half to identify this problem and find a solution. If he can't play, someone wants sacking. You don't run a club like that. this Give me one good reason for NUFC not wanting to tie up this deal and have him available for the games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 If the Jonas registration is true, then I have to assume they will get that resolved in time for Sunday. They can't afford not to. They have had a month and a half to identify this problem and find a solution. If he can't play, someone wants sacking. You don't run a club like that. this Give me one good reason for NUFC not wanting to tie up this deal and have him available for the game. your post bears no relevance to the 2 you've quoted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 If the Jonas registration is true, then I have to assume they will get that resolved in time for Sunday. They can't afford not to. They have had a month and a half to identify this problem and find a solution. If he can't play, someone wants sacking. You don't run a club like that. this Give me one good reason for NUFC not wanting to tie up this deal and have him available for the game. your post bears no relevance to the 2 you've quoted You're criticising the running of the club. I'm saying it isn't totally their fault and they want the deal done asap. You want people sacked for not getting the deal done ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 If the Jonas registration is true, then I have to assume they will get that resolved in time for Sunday. They can't afford not to. They have had a month and a half to identify this problem and find a solution. If he can't play, someone wants sacking. You don't run a club like that. this Give me one good reason for NUFC not wanting to tie up this deal and have him available for the game. your post bears no relevance to the 2 you've quoted You're criticising the running of the club. I'm saying it isn't totally their fault and they want the deal done asap. You want people sacked for not getting the deal done ffs. you said give me a reason for NUFC not wanting the deal concluded, neither of us mentioned desire as a factor as chicago says the deal was announced weeks ago, if he's not eligible to play sunday someone needs sacking..."want" has nothing to do with it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Maybe him missing a couple of games is what we have to cope with if we're going to use a very new and unclear rule to get him. It's not perfect but it's better than having to bid £8m, Portsmouth (who wanted him) hearing about it, "look, it's hot down here" and whoops he's signed for Harry. I'd have taken Modric missing a couple of hypothetical games if we'd got him and got him for next to nothing rather than the Dinamo brothers piping up and whoops he's signed for Juande. Pretty sure the club don't want this situation anymore than anyone else. Lack of communication with fans in relation to it, I agree that's not good, but I have no reason to think that the club aren't doing everything they can to sort it. Me? I reckon he'll play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 If the Jonas registration is true, then I have to assume they will get that resolved in time for Sunday. They can't afford not to. They have had a month and a half to identify this problem and find a solution. If he can't play, someone wants sacking. You don't run a club like that. this Give me one good reason for NUFC not wanting to tie up this deal and have him available for the game. your post bears no relevance to the 2 you've quoted You're criticising the running of the club. I'm saying it isn't totally their fault and they want the deal done asap. You want people sacked for not getting the deal done ffs. you said give me a reason for NUFC not wanting the deal concluded, neither of us mentioned desire as a factor as chicago says the deal was announced weeks ago, if he's not eligible to play sunday someone needs sacking..."want" has nothing to do with it Even if it's not our fault? Has it occurred to you that a the time we signed him and announced it, we believed the player's documentation was in transit too? The problems may have happened after we confirmed it. You can't rewind time. I'm just saying that I think the club is doing everything it can to get the documents and they're as pissed off about it all as you, I and all of us are. If another party, the Spanish FA, is holding the deal up, it's not our fault. Jesus fucking wept. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 I reckon we'll come away from Old Trafford with all three points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 If the Jonas registration is true, then I have to assume they will get that resolved in time for Sunday. They can't afford not to. They have had a month and a half to identify this problem and find a solution. If he can't play, someone wants sacking. You don't run a club like that. this Give me one good reason for NUFC not wanting to tie up this deal and have him available for the game. your post bears no relevance to the 2 you've quoted You're criticising the running of the club. I'm saying it isn't totally their fault and they want the deal done asap. You want people sacked for not getting the deal done ffs. you said give me a reason for NUFC not wanting the deal concluded, neither of us mentioned desire as a factor as chicago says the deal was announced weeks ago, if he's not eligible to play sunday someone needs sacking..."want" has nothing to do with it Even if it's not our fault? Has it occurred to you that a the time we signed him and announced it, we believed the player's documentation was in transit too? The problems may have happened after we confirmed it. You can't rewind time. I'm just saying that I think the club is doing everything it can to get the documents and they're as pissed off about it all as you, I and all of us are. If another party, the Spanish FA, is holding the deal up, it's not our fault. Jesus fucking wept. i'll reply in 2 ways before kip; 1. it's a good point, something unexpected happened after they announced the signing yet they chose not to announce said impediment 2. we employ people on crazy wages, embarrassing wages really, to ensure this shit does not happen have you seen it at another club? me either? thus someones not earning their money, fucken sack em Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 I reckon we'll come away from Old Trafford with all three points. Blue square sent me a free £5 bet, no questions asked. Straight on the win at 10/1! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 I reckon we'll come away from Old Trafford with all three points. Blue square sent me a free £5 bet, no questions asked. Straight on the win at 10/1! Get the day off booked for Monday. I hope you have a cracking night out on Sunday too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 If the Jonas registration is true, then I have to assume they will get that resolved in time for Sunday. They can't afford not to. They have had a month and a half to identify this problem and find a solution. If he can't play, someone wants sacking. You don't run a club like that. this Give me one good reason for NUFC not wanting to tie up this deal and have him available for the game. your post bears no relevance to the 2 you've quoted You're criticising the running of the club. I'm saying it isn't totally their fault and they want the deal done asap. You want people sacked for not getting the deal done ffs. you said give me a reason for NUFC not wanting the deal concluded, neither of us mentioned desire as a factor as chicago says the deal was announced weeks ago, if he's not eligible to play sunday someone needs sacking..."want" has nothing to do with it Even if it's not our fault? Has it occurred to you that a the time we signed him and announced it, we believed the player's documentation was in transit too? The problems may have happened after we confirmed it. You can't rewind time. I'm just saying that I think the club is doing everything it can to get the documents and they're as pissed off about it all as you, I and all of us are. If another party, the Spanish FA, is holding the deal up, it's not our fault. Jesus fucking wept. i'll reply in 2 ways before kip; 1. it's a good point, something unexpected happened after they announced the signing yet they chose not to announce said impediment 2. we employ people on crazy wages, embarrassing wages really, to ensure this shit does not happen have you seen it at another club? me either? thus someones not earning their money, fucken sack em How many times has the Webster ruling been invoked? I believe this is the third time, and I know that Webster himself had to sit out for quite a while. It's not the most clear cut ruling there is, and if Mallorca are trying to dispute it I'd imagine there isn't much we could do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 I reckon we'll come away from Old Trafford with all three points. Blue square sent me a free £5 bet, no questions asked. Straight on the win at 10/1! Get the day off booked for Monday. I hope you have a cracking night out on Sunday too. Cheers mate. Money in the bank, I tell thee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 If the Jonas registration is true, then I have to assume they will get that resolved in time for Sunday. They can't afford not to. They have had a month and a half to identify this problem and find a solution. If he can't play, someone wants sacking. You don't run a club like that. this Give me one good reason for NUFC not wanting to tie up this deal and have him available for the game. your post bears no relevance to the 2 you've quoted You're criticising the running of the club. I'm saying it isn't totally their fault and they want the deal done asap. You want people sacked for not getting the deal done ffs. you said give me a reason for NUFC not wanting the deal concluded, neither of us mentioned desire as a factor as chicago says the deal was announced weeks ago, if he's not eligible to play sunday someone needs sacking..."want" has nothing to do with it Even if it's not our fault? Has it occurred to you that a the time we signed him and announced it, we believed the player's documentation was in transit too? The problems may have happened after we confirmed it. You can't rewind time. I'm just saying that I think the club is doing everything it can to get the documents and they're as pissed off about it all as you, I and all of us are. If another party, the Spanish FA, is holding the deal up, it's not our fault. Jesus fucking wept. i'll reply in 2 ways before kip; 1. it's a good point, something unexpected happened after they announced the signing yet they chose not to announce said impediment 2. we employ people on crazy wages, embarrassing wages really, to ensure this shit does not happen have you seen it at another club? me either? thus someones not earning their money, fucken sack em How many times has the Webster ruling been invoked? I believe this is the third time, and I know that Webster himself had to sit out for quite a while. It's not the most clear cut ruling there is, and if Mallorca are trying to dispute it I'd imagine there isn't much we could do. then don't tell me the guy is an nufc player then, if you're not certain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 <snip> How many times has the Webster ruling been invoked? I believe this is the third time, and I know that Webster himself had to sit out for quite a while. It's not the most clear cut ruling there is, and if Mallorca are trying to dispute it I'd imagine there isn't much we could do. then don't tell me the guy is an nufc player then, if you're not certain Honestly? You'd rather he hadn't played any of the pre-season or anything, because there's still a couple of ts need crossing? We've clearly got him, and if there is a delay over clearance to play (still only an if) it's just Mallorca being buggars and complaining they wanted more money for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 <snip> How many times has the Webster ruling been invoked? I believe this is the third time, and I know that Webster himself had to sit out for quite a while. It's not the most clear cut ruling there is, and if Mallorca are trying to dispute it I'd imagine there isn't much we could do. then don't tell me the guy is an nufc player then, if you're not certain Honestly? You'd rather he hadn't played any of the pre-season or anything, because there's still a couple of ts need crossing? We've clearly got him, and if there is a delay over clearance to play (still only an if) it's just Mallorca being buggars and complaining they wanted more money for him. so despite knowing nothing and admitting the webster ruling is a grey area you're perfectly confident all is well then? wierd and as i said earlier if the club knew he couldn't play they should have used pre-season for players they know can, outlandish opinion i know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 <snip> How many times has the Webster ruling been invoked? I believe this is the third time, and I know that Webster himself had to sit out for quite a while. It's not the most clear cut ruling there is, and if Mallorca are trying to dispute it I'd imagine there isn't much we could do. then don't tell me the guy is an nufc player then, if you're not certain Honestly? You'd rather he hadn't played any of the pre-season or anything, because there's still a couple of ts need crossing? We've clearly got him, and if there is a delay over clearance to play (still only an if) it's just Mallorca being buggars and complaining they wanted more money for him. so despite knowing nothing and admitting the webster ruling is a grey area you're perfectly confident all is well then? wierd and as i said earlier if the club knew he couldn't play they should have used pre-season for players they know can, outlandish opinion i know And then his clearance comes through tomorrow and he still can't play because he's not fit? Fuck me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 If the Jonas registration is true, then I have to assume they will get that resolved in time for Sunday. They can't afford not to. They have had a month and a half to identify this problem and find a solution. If he can't play, someone wants sacking. You don't run a club like that. this Give me one good reason for NUFC not wanting to tie up this deal and have him available for the game. your post bears no relevance to the 2 you've quoted You're criticising the running of the club. I'm saying it isn't totally their fault and they want the deal done asap. You want people sacked for not getting the deal done ffs. you said give me a reason for NUFC not wanting the deal concluded, neither of us mentioned desire as a factor as chicago says the deal was announced weeks ago, if he's not eligible to play sunday someone needs sacking..."want" has nothing to do with it Even if it's not our fault? Has it occurred to you that a the time we signed him and announced it, we believed the player's documentation was in transit too? The problems may have happened after we confirmed it. You can't rewind time. I'm just saying that I think the club is doing everything it can to get the documents and they're as pissed off about it all as you, I and all of us are. If another party, the Spanish FA, is holding the deal up, it's not our fault. Jesus fucking wept. i'll reply in 2 ways before kip; 1. it's a good point, something unexpected happened after they announced the signing yet they chose not to announce said impediment 2. we employ people on crazy wages, embarrassing wages really, to ensure this shit does not happen have you seen it at another club? me either? thus someones not earning their money, fucken sack em Using the 'Webster rule' to sign a player isn't exactly a run-of-the-mill transfer. It's unusual and clubs are still trying to get their heads around the new legislation atm. I'm not exonerating the club totally however, and I hope they learn from their mistakes. I'm suggesting the problems with the missing registration surfaced after we'd signed him and the Spanish FA are backing their team and holding fire for the time being. I don't believe for a second that NUFC don't want this sorted asap and want to play Gutierrez as much and as soon as possible and are doing everything they can to get it resolved. PS. I bet the same twats who are complaining about us announcing the Jonas signing early are the very same twats who are complaining about Coloccini not being confirmed on the website. Maybe, just fucking maybe, Ashley is a bit embarrassed by the Guti deal being held up and is holding fire on going public about the Colo deal. Just a thought. Sleep tight, tiger. x Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Great point re: Coloccini there Midds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicago_shearer Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 If the Jonas registration is true, then I have to assume they will get that resolved in time for Sunday. They can't afford not to. They have had a month and a half to identify this problem and find a solution. If he can't play, someone wants sacking. You don't run a club like that. this Give me one good reason for NUFC not wanting to tie up this deal and have him available for the game. your post bears no relevance to the 2 you've quoted You're criticising the running of the club. I'm saying it isn't totally their fault and they want the deal done asap. You want people sacked for not getting the deal done ffs. you said give me a reason for NUFC not wanting the deal concluded, neither of us mentioned desire as a factor as chicago says the deal was announced weeks ago, if he's not eligible to play sunday someone needs sacking..."want" has nothing to do with it Even if it's not our fault? Has it occurred to you that a the time we signed him and announced it, we believed the player's documentation was in transit too? The problems may have happened after we confirmed it. You can't rewind time. I'm just saying that I think the club is doing everything it can to get the documents and they're as pissed off about it all as you, I and all of us are. If another party, the Spanish FA, is holding the deal up, it's not our fault. Jesus f***ing wept. They confirmed it a month and a half ago. They have had a lot of time to resolve this problem, and they haven't. Whether they wanted to or tried very hard doesn't matter. When you make only 2 first team signings, you expect them to play. So yes, I am criticizing the way the club is being run. I honestly didn't expect to be looking at the same team on August 16 that lost 0-6 minus Stephen Carr, plus Bolton's Danny Guthrie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 We're gonna get tonked 4-1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 If the Jonas registration is true, then I have to assume they will get that resolved in time for Sunday. They can't afford not to. They have had a month and a half to identify this problem and find a solution. If he can't play, someone wants sacking. You don't run a club like that. this Give me one good reason for NUFC not wanting to tie up this deal and have him available for the game. your post bears no relevance to the 2 you've quoted You're criticising the running of the club. I'm saying it isn't totally their fault and they want the deal done asap. You want people sacked for not getting the deal done ffs. you said give me a reason for NUFC not wanting the deal concluded, neither of us mentioned desire as a factor as chicago says the deal was announced weeks ago, if he's not eligible to play sunday someone needs sacking..."want" has nothing to do with it Even if it's not our fault? Has it occurred to you that a the time we signed him and announced it, we believed the player's documentation was in transit too? The problems may have happened after we confirmed it. You can't rewind time. I'm just saying that I think the club is doing everything it can to get the documents and they're as pissed off about it all as you, I and all of us are. If another party, the Spanish FA, is holding the deal up, it's not our fault. Jesus fucking wept. i'll reply in 2 ways before kip; 1. it's a good point, something unexpected happened after they announced the signing yet they chose not to announce said impediment 2. we employ people on crazy wages, embarrassing wages really, to ensure this shit does not happen have you seen it at another club? me either? thus someones not earning their money, fucken sack em Using the 'Webster rule' to sign a player isn't exactly a run-of-the-mill transfer. It's unusual and clubs are still trying to get their heads around the new legislation atm. I'm not exonerating the club totally however, and I hope they learn from their mistakes. I'm suggesting the problems with the missing registration surfaced after we'd signed him and the Spanish FA are backing their team and holding fire for the time being. I don't believe for a second that NUFC don't want this sorted asap and want to play Gutierrez as much and as soon as possible and are doing everything they can to get it resolved. PS. I bet the same twats who are complaining about us announcing the Jonas signing early are the very same twats who are complaining about Coloccini not being confirmed on the website. Maybe, just fucking maybe, Ashley is a bit embarrassed by the Guti deal being held up and is holding fire on going public about the Colo deal. Just a thought. Sleep tight, tiger. x ah, am i one of those twats then? research my posts mate, i've consistently said i think colo's our player and am still of that opinion wish i wasn't such a twat oh and your point about ashley & guti/colo is so far beyond embarrassing i'm not even going to pull you on it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 We're gonna get tonked 4-1. Can't see us scoring. Agree apart from that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 We'll not score in a month of Sundays on er....Sunday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 If the Jonas registration is true, then I have to assume they will get that resolved in time for Sunday. They can't afford not to. They have had a month and a half to identify this problem and find a solution. If he can't play, someone wants sacking. You don't run a club like that. this Give me one good reason for NUFC not wanting to tie up this deal and have him available for the game. your post bears no relevance to the 2 you've quoted You're criticising the running of the club. I'm saying it isn't totally their fault and they want the deal done asap. You want people sacked for not getting the deal done ffs. you said give me a reason for NUFC not wanting the deal concluded, neither of us mentioned desire as a factor as chicago says the deal was announced weeks ago, if he's not eligible to play sunday someone needs sacking..."want" has nothing to do with it Even if it's not our fault? Has it occurred to you that a the time we signed him and announced it, we believed the player's documentation was in transit too? The problems may have happened after we confirmed it. You can't rewind time. I'm just saying that I think the club is doing everything it can to get the documents and they're as pissed off about it all as you, I and all of us are. If another party, the Spanish FA, is holding the deal up, it's not our fault. Jesus f***ing wept. They confirmed it a month and a half ago. They have had a lot of time to resolve this problem, and they haven't. Whether they wanted to or tried very hard doesn't matter. When you make only 2 first team signings, you expect them to play. So yes, I am criticizing the way the club is being run. I honestly didn't expect to be looking at the same team on August 16 that lost 0-6 minus Stephen Carr, plus Bolton's Danny Guthrie. I've already said i think it's out of their hands and the delay is at the Spanish end of the deal. In hindsight they probably shouldn't have announced the transfer as quickly as they did but I'm prepared to look at things and give them the benefit of the doubt. We want him available and I'm not blaming them for the delay. Yes it should have been sorted earlier but what are we going to do if the Spanish FA dig their heels in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 If the Jonas registration is true, then I have to assume they will get that resolved in time for Sunday. They can't afford not to. They have had a month and a half to identify this problem and find a solution. If he can't play, someone wants sacking. You don't run a club like that. this Give me one good reason for NUFC not wanting to tie up this deal and have him available for the game. your post bears no relevance to the 2 you've quoted You're criticising the running of the club. I'm saying it isn't totally their fault and they want the deal done asap. You want people sacked for not getting the deal done ffs. you said give me a reason for NUFC not wanting the deal concluded, neither of us mentioned desire as a factor as chicago says the deal was announced weeks ago, if he's not eligible to play sunday someone needs sacking..."want" has nothing to do with it Even if it's not our fault? Has it occurred to you that a the time we signed him and announced it, we believed the player's documentation was in transit too? The problems may have happened after we confirmed it. You can't rewind time. I'm just saying that I think the club is doing everything it can to get the documents and they're as pissed off about it all as you, I and all of us are. If another party, the Spanish FA, is holding the deal up, it's not our fault. Jesus f***ing wept. They confirmed it a month and a half ago. They have had a lot of time to resolve this problem, and they haven't. Whether they wanted to or tried very hard doesn't matter. When you make only 2 first team signings, you expect them to play. So yes, I am criticizing the way the club is being run. I honestly didn't expect to be looking at the same team on August 16 that lost 0-6 minus Stephen Carr, plus Bolton's Danny Guthrie. [/quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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