Dokko Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 It's painfully obvious, and to repeat what I've said around 100 times already but he should have been out on loan this season and at least half of the championship season, three half seasons where he should have been out on loan and he's been on the bench doing fuk all, is not great blooding, especially when the like of shola and lovenkrands get games without question by the management, if he doesn't rate him above those two then he should have been out to somewhere that would use him. Also loaning him out shows he has a long long way to go and the club see him as a kid rather than a premier league players as that's where he seems to See himself currently. A player with this many problems off field and has a history should be monitored 24-7 like Fergie does with all his players, turning up at parties and dragging the likes of giggs and Lee sharpe out and marching them home. It sounds drastic but some players need this kind of discipline, especially in a city like Newcastle. If you treat every footballer the same, every personality with a one size fits all attitude, especially with a problem like ranger then expect poor results. Craic is the club thought they could handle him, they haven't, they didn't, and the club must take some responsibility as to why this has happened. In saying that most of the blame lies at the players feet, but I expected more from us especially after the way we handled Carroll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 And Barton for that matter. (can't add that on to my initial post as I'm on me iPad) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cort Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Definitely with the club on this. The only attribute he's got going for him is pace, he's shit otherwise. His finishing is especially crap, difficult to overlook because he's a striker. Another Dennis Wise flop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I know we like to criticise Mr. Wise, but he's hardly been a 'flop'. Just another in the long list of young players who don't make it for whatever reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 We really could have done with that extra £2.5m or whatever to invest in the scouting setup. With 3 or 4 exceptions we've brought nothing but complete and utter rubbish through in the last decade. Pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 We really could have done with that extra £2.5m or whatever to invest in the scouting setup. With 3 or 4 exceptions we've brought nothing but complete and utter rubbish through in the last decade. Pathetic. Do the 3 or 4 exceptions not count for some reason like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 We really could have done with that extra £2.5m or whatever to invest in the scouting setup. With 3 or 4 exceptions we've brought nothing but complete and utter rubbish through in the last decade. Pathetic. Do the 3 or 4 exceptions not count for some reason like? The reason is that they don't agree with Ronaldo's opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 We really could have done with that extra £2.5m or whatever to invest in the scouting setup. With 3 or 4 exceptions we've brought nothing but complete and utter rubbish through in the last decade. Pathetic. Do the 3 or 4 exceptions not count for some reason like? p*ss off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayno Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 We really could have done with that extra £2.5m or whatever to invest in the scouting setup. With 3 or 4 exceptions we've brought nothing but complete and utter rubbish through in the last decade. Pathetic. Somewhat correct but there has been alot of changes in the scouting set up in that time and it would wrong to brandish the current set up with the same brush. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 I'd say I don't like the thought of him coming back to haunt us but based on his time here, last season especially, it doesn't seem likely to happen. He might have the talent but he doesn't seem to have the dedication, commitment to want to do well and, most importantly, appreciation of the support he has had so far. Sadly it seems his priorities are fucked. 1. Wannabe gangster 2. Professional footballer Shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 He's probably afraid his mates will laugh at him if he takes up the offer of extra training or appears to care about his career at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CaPiTaL cHaP Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Perhaps he's done a couple of things the club are not happy with and they want rid of him. I reckon he could end up at Blackpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 He'll go back to London. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisd09 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 I think once he does leave us his career will go on a downward sprial. At times he looks as if he's got the talent, but needs to work hard, by the sounds of what is coming out of the club he hasn't got that dedication to improve. It doesn't look like he'll become a good player with us. He is 4th choice as it stands, we are looking for a top notch forward and are likely to play with only 1 out and out striker next season so his chances will be very limited. If he goes then I don't think it will affect us at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Back to the mean streets. He'll end up having a half decent career at Barnet or somewhere similar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Any idea what kind of wage he'll be on? Chances are he might not accept less to go elsewhere if he thinks he won't get another chance at a club like Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KingKev Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 With a 5year contract he doesn't have to move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 I would have thought he would be on about £7k per week, if that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Rather than leave for another club he might be happy to rot in the reserves for 5 years, doing the bare minimum training whilst pissing about in his private life with the money we pay him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 “Discipline in and around the building I will definitely improve next year,” Pardew said. “When you inherit a club halfway through a season and you start laying down the law – and I think that has happened in the past here — and changing things and saying this isn’t acceptable, that isn’t acceptable. I’m not sure it works. “Players need to be in at a certain time, food will stop at a certain time, let’s train on time. I think that is the minimum ask from a professional player.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Newcastle remain convinced that a permanent move is required to invigorate the 6ft 1in forward’s career and his removal from the payroll will raise the club’s chances of signing French international Kevin Gameiro from Lorient. Not sure whether to laugh or cringe at this suggestion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 And they've got the height wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Does he not like Ranger like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Any idea what kind of wage he'll be on? Chances are he might not accept less to go elsewhere if he thinks he won't get another chance at a club like Newcastle. According to some people that know him from Wood Green (where he was raised up) He's on 15k a week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Any idea what kind of wage he'll be on? Chances are he might not accept less to go elsewhere if he thinks he won't get another chance at a club like Newcastle. According to some people that know him from Wood Green (where he was raised up) He's on 15k a week. Are we allowed to accept hearsay on Ranger's wages when so many have taken offense at assuming Barton and Nolan's demands based on pure speculation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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