KK resigns - see OP for new club statement issued September 6th

[johnnypd]

in the blue corner - Kevin Keegan, Alan Shearer, Bobby Robson, Les Ferdinand

 

in the red corner - some bloke who runs a casino, Dennis Wise, the owner of a shell-suit shop

 

i know who i'm backing

[Robster]

I cant bring myself to read that Shite from the NOTW

[Unbelievable]

NUFC have every right to air their views, looks like keegan's as much to blame

 

They've got another thing coming when Keegan will air his side of the story, especially if it strategically timed at a couple of hours before next Saturday's match.. Doubt if Keegan will stoop to the same levels as this bunch though..

 

Sorry, but if you think Keegan hasn't been having his say for months, then you're seriously deluded!!

 

Where do you think the media have been getting all their inside info from!?!

 

Who'd have thought naive old KK would have totally gotten the better of cynical hard-nosed businessman Mike Ashley in the manipulation stakes, f***ing hell man he's had us all fooled, the blokes a PR genius!! A media manipulator par excellence.

 

I have no idea what you're trying to imply here

 

That doesn't surprise me.

 

I'm not implying anything I'm saying that Keegan, or someone on his behalf or with his interests at heart, has been talking to the media for months planting stories showing things from his point of view. That's not an implication its a direct accusation. I was one of the people who had been saying it was bollocks and the press were just making things up and s***-stirring because they didn't know what was going on, but seeing as it's now obvious that they knew exactly what was going on - or at least one side of it anyway - I've had to reassess my view, I was wrong.

 

People have been talking about Keegan having signed a confidentiality agreement, but I'd expect that's a totally pointless exercise as his view will undoubtedly turn up in the papers anyhow.

 

Well, maybe the fact that you were "one of the people who had been saying it was bollocks and the press were just making things up" should tell you aren't a very good judge of characters. A few people on here had been sceptical about Ashley and his middle management long before any of this came to light. Maybe some people in the press are also better judges of characters than you. You were wrong before in judging this whole affair by your own admission, so what makes you so convinced you've got it all figured out now..?

 

Perhaps because I'm able to admit to getting things wrong and know that no-one gets everything right all the time, unlike the vast majority of people on here seemingly.

 

Are you saying that you've never got anything wrong before, because if you have then you may as well answer you're own question. If you "haven't" then... ...well I'll know not to bother continuing with this conversation.

 

As for the people who were questioning Ashley's middle management, it's not what they were doing, but why they were doing it that's important when deciding whether or not their judgement's any good or not. If they were doing it because they had thought about the situation and had analysed it and eventually come to the same conclusion that was being reported in the press then kudos to them, they're either a very powerful psychic or a club-insider. If they were simply swallowing everything they read in the press and then regurgitating it onto these pages then I would suggest that their judgement in general would be very poor and their judgement in this specific case would none existent as they had made no judgement, simply restated someone else's.

 

As for my ability to judge character, well nah, I'm not actually going to go into that, my judgement of character is telling me that's not a very good idea.

 

Again, you are showing yourself to be a poor judge of character; people like Tsunami, johnnypd and me have not jumped on the bandwagon last year when most people on here and in the press thought Ashley's shit smelled of roses. We have decided to judge the new owner and management on its actions and its results and we have often been slayed and riduculed for it by people who labelled us doom mongers. Since I'm not English I hardly even read the press; I don't need to press to form an opinion on something. I am perfectly happy to do that myself. No need to go all "That doesn't surprise me." on me.

[Guest TheKingOfNewcastle]

That new statement shows them all up for what they are.

 

A PACK OF COCKNEY CUNTS.

[dinotheprehistoricgeordie]

Getting in Guthrie, as pointed out, hardly seems like the act of a manager who's actually got his eye on the likes of Lampard, Pelé, Bobby Moore's reanimated corpse and M. Bison from the Streetfighter 2 series.

 

Now that statement's just silly everybody knows M. Bison was the only character in the entire game who couldn't kick!

 

It depends where in the world you are.  In Japan, M.Bison was the Mike Tyson style boxer who couldn't kick.  In the West, M.Bison was the final boss, who could not only kick but kick with added big f*** off blue lightening s***.

 

Aaaaaaah yeah forgot about that  :-[

[Syrette]

I don't know what to think really and I find it hard to really believe but I hope people don't completely write off that NOTW article just because of its source and its content. None of us know the truth, don't pretend you do.

 

Either way if their source said that Keegan was never given the final say on transfers and yet we were told publicly that he was then that was a disgraceful lie that we told.

[stozo]

in the blue corner - Kevin Keegan, Alan Shearer, Bobby Robson, Les Ferdinand

 

in the red corner - some bloke who runs a casino, Dennis Wise, the owner of a shell-suit shop

 

i know who i'm backing

To be fair the club look to have scored a MASSIVE PR victory with these back page stories that paint KK as a lunatic basically. Whether what's been written is true or not these stories are gonna have massive influence on how people see the situation.

[Guest elbee909]

"Our source" this, "insider" that.  Amazing that if that's all true, they don't just come out and put their names to it.  Strange, eh?  Yeah.  Right.

[Crumpy Gunt]

Statement in respect of further comments from Newcastle United F.C.

The directors of Newcastle United Football Club have late this evening issued a statement. The League Managers Association and Kevin Keegan made the following response.

 

Richard Bevan, LMA chief executive, said:

 

“Kevin Keegan’s chief complaint, amongst others, is that it was always agreed that the director of football could not impose a player that the manager did not want. This agreement has been broken and, notwithstanding the fact that the chairman at the time of Kevin Keegan’s appointment, the director of football and the owner of Newcastle United, have confirmed previously in public meetings and publications, that he would always have the final say.”

 

Kevin Keegan said:

 

“At the time at which I joined Newcastle United Football Club it was made very clear to me that I would have the final say on player movement in and out of the club.”

 

The following quotes are reproduced from published articles:

 

In the Evening Chronicle (Newcastle) on 1st February this year, Newcastle United’s executive director of football, Dennis Wise, said: “I am here to help Kevin as much as possible with bringing young players through and also recommending certain players to him. He will say yes or no. He has the final word. No-one else. I am not going to do things like bring players in behind his back. I am not into that. Everything that happens will be run past him and he will say yes or no.”

 

In an interview that appears in the September edition of the official Newcastle United magazine Mike Ashley said: "If the deal is right - and that means the right player who Kevin wants - then we will do that deal. Kevin himself is very particular about who he wants. To use his words, they have to have the right heart for Newcastle. That is massively important for him. If they don't then he's not interested."

 

For further information please contact:

 

Richard Bevan, LMA Chief Executive, 07860 474 767

 

[Optimistic Nut]

The club needs a complete f*cking overhaul from top to bottom...absolute joke.

 

And this means no Ashley, no Wise, no Keegan, no Jimenez, no Llambias, etc. If a new owner comes in, I hope he doesn't crack to the public pressure and reinstates Keegan.

[Cronky]

To sum up - the Board wanted to run the club like Arsenal, with Spain as the source of young talent instead of France.

 

Keegan wanted to manage the club like Chelsea.

[johnnypd]

Statement in respect of further comments from Newcastle United F.C.

The directors of Newcastle United Football Club have late this evening issued a statement. The League Managers Association and Kevin Keegan made the following response.

 

Richard Bevan, LMA chief executive, said:

 

“Kevin Keegan’s chief complaint, amongst others, is that it was always agreed that the director of football could not impose a player that the manager did not want. This agreement has been broken and, notwithstanding the fact that the chairman at the time of Kevin Keegan’s appointment, the director of football and the owner of Newcastle United, have confirmed previously in public meetings and publications, that he would always have the final say.”

 

Kevin Keegan said:

 

“At the time at which I joined Newcastle United Football Club it was made very clear to me that I would have the final say on player movement in and out of the club.”

 

The following quotes are reproduced from published articles:

 

In the Evening Chronicle (Newcastle) on 1st February this year, Newcastle United’s executive director of football, Dennis Wise, said: “I am here to help Kevin as much as possible with bringing young players through and also recommending certain players to him. He will say yes or no. He has the final word. No-one else. I am not going to do things like bring players in behind his back. I am not into that. Everything that happens will be run past him and he will say yes or no.”

 

In an interview that appears in the September edition of the official Newcastle United magazine Mike Ashley said: "If the deal is right - and that means the right player who Kevin wants - then we will do that deal. Kevin himself is very particular about who he wants. To use his words, they have to have the right heart for Newcastle. That is massively important for him. If they don't then he's not interested."

 

For further information please contact:

 

Richard Bevan, LMA Chief Executive, 07860 474 767

 

 

ashley and wise can't really argue with their own words.

[S.S.R.]

Comical Llambias

 

http://i34.tinypic.com/dr2npy.jpg

 

"You were all told in January that Keegan wasn't in control and money was scarce..."

[Cronky]

Statement in respect of further comments from Newcastle United F.C.

The directors of Newcastle United Football Club have late this evening issued a statement. The League Managers Association and Kevin Keegan made the following response.

 

Richard Bevan, LMA chief executive, said:

 

Kevin Keegans chief complaint, amongst others, is that it was always agreed that the director of football could not impose a player that the manager did not want. This agreement has been broken and, notwithstanding the fact that the chairman at the time of Kevin Keegans appointment, the director of football and the owner of Newcastle United, have confirmed previously in public meetings and publications, that he would always have the final say.

 

Kevin Keegan said:

 

At the time at which I joined Newcastle United Football Club it was made very clear to me that I would have the final say on player movement in and out of the club.

 

The following quotes are reproduced from published articles:

 

In the Evening Chronicle (Newcastle) on 1st February this year, Newcastle Uniteds executive director of football, Dennis Wise, said: I am here to help Kevin as much as possible with bringing young players through and also recommending certain players to him. He will say yes or no. He has the final word. No-one else. I am not going to do things like bring players in behind his back. I am not into that. Everything that happens will be run past him and he will say yes or no.

 

In an interview that appears in the September edition of the official Newcastle United magazine Mike Ashley said: "If the deal is right - and that means the right player who Kevin wants - then we will do that deal. Kevin himself is very particular about who he wants. To use his words, they have to have the right heart for Newcastle. That is massively important for him. If they don't then he's not interested."

 

For further information please contact:

 

Richard Bevan, LMA Chief Executive, 07860 474 767

 

 

Exactly who was bought in or sold without Keegan's consent? Anyone know?

[NJS]

To sum up - the Board wanted to run the club like Arsenal, with Spain as the source of young talent instead of France.

 

Keegan wanted to manage the club like Chelsea.

 

Despite all the comments he'd made since Jan where he was very realistic?

 

 

[stozo]

"Our source" this, "insider" that.  Amazing that if that's all true, they don't just come out and put their names to it.  Strange, eh?  Yeah.  Right.

I wouldn't be surprised if the "source" for tomorow articles are Wise or Jimenez. The quotes have obviously been given from the top of the club because the Times and NOTW are running articles with near identical quotes, so thery clearly aren't made up.

[Optimistic Nut]

The only players it seems that were forced on Keegan, were the two on deadline day...even then, Xisco has even said he met with Keegan who told him what the plans were. He walked the day after by the sounds of it. Could Keegan REALLY not have just calmed down, got on with it for a bit, and THEN went to Ashley or whoever with his concerns?

[Robster]

To sum up - the Board wanted to run the club like Arsenal, with Spain as the source of young talent instead of France.

 

Keegan wanted to manage the club like Chelsea.

 

So you really believe that Keegan believed we could go for and sign Thierry Henry and Frank Lampard ?

[Dave]

Statement in respect of further comments from Newcastle United F.C.

The directors of Newcastle United Football Club have late this evening issued a statement. The League Managers Association and Kevin Keegan made the following response.

 

Richard Bevan, LMA chief executive, said:

 

“Kevin Keegan’s chief complaint, amongst others, is that it was always agreed that the director of football could not impose a player that the manager did not want. This agreement has been broken and, notwithstanding the fact that the chairman at the time of Kevin Keegan’s appointment, the director of football and the owner of Newcastle United, have confirmed previously in public meetings and publications, that he would always have the final say.”

 

Kevin Keegan said:

 

“At the time at which I joined Newcastle United Football Club it was made very clear to me that I would have the final say on player movement in and out of the club.”

 

The following quotes are reproduced from published articles:

 

In the Evening Chronicle (Newcastle) on 1st February this year, Newcastle United’s executive director of football, Dennis Wise, said: “I am here to help Kevin as much as possible with bringing young players through and also recommending certain players to him. He will say yes or no. He has the final word. No-one else. I am not going to do things like bring players in behind his back. I am not into that. Everything that happens will be run past him and he will say yes or no.”

 

In an interview that appears in the September edition of the official Newcastle United magazine Mike Ashley said: "If the deal is right - and that means the right player who Kevin wants - then we will do that deal. Kevin himself is very particular about who he wants. To use his words, they have to have the right heart for Newcastle. That is massively important for him. If they don't then he's not interested."

 

For further information please contact:

 

Richard Bevan, LMA Chief Executive, 07860 474 767

 

 

Didn't take long.

[Guest Howaythetoon]

Keegan wanted to manage the club like Chelsea.

 

Bob, you seriously don't believe that do you, honestly?

 

If anything I think KK wanted the best of both worlds, he was very complimentary about Jonas et al and seemed excited about the kind of talent the new set-up could find him, while I'm sure he'd have liked some of his own targets brought in but I don't for one minute think that included Henry, Lampard and Ronaldinho, players he actually laughed at at the end of last season as dreamworld signings and that fans should not expect such players. Again it points to the sale of Milner for me.

[winnie]

The madness is making my ears bleed!

[Guest elbee909]

"Our source" this, "insider" that.  Amazing that if that's all true, they don't just come out and put their names to it.  Strange, eh?  Yeah.  Right.

I wouldn't be surprised if the "source" for tomorow articles are Wise or Jimenez. The quotes have obviously been given from the top of the club because the Times and NOTW are running articles with near identical quotes, so thery clearly aren't made up.

 

It's the fact they haven't put any names to them that gets me.  If it's true, then why not?  Plausible deniability, I believe it's called.

[timnufc22]

Absolute disgrace, its a sham.

 

They lied, the f*cking lied about Keegan saying yes or no. Whatever the f*ck else is said, that simply diminishes any credibility.

 

FACT - YOU ARE NOT WELCOME, SELL UP.

 

 

[GM]

Comical Llambias

 

http://i34.tinypic.com/dr2npy.jpg

 

"You were all told in January that Keegan wasn't in control and money was scarce..."

 

[Guest Howaythetoon]

Statement in respect of further comments from Newcastle United F.C.

The directors of Newcastle United Football Club have late this evening issued a statement. The League Managers Association and Kevin Keegan made the following response.

 

Richard Bevan, LMA chief executive, said:

 

Kevin Keegans chief complaint, amongst others, is that it was always agreed that the director of football could not impose a player that the manager did not want. This agreement has been broken and, notwithstanding the fact that the chairman at the time of Kevin Keegans appointment, the director of football and the owner of Newcastle United, have confirmed previously in public meetings and publications, that he would always have the final say.

 

Kevin Keegan said:

 

At the time at which I joined Newcastle United Football Club it was made very clear to me that I would have the final say on player movement in and out of the club.

 

The following quotes are reproduced from published articles:

 

In the Evening Chronicle (Newcastle) on 1st February this year, Newcastle Uniteds executive director of football, Dennis Wise, said: I am here to help Kevin as much as possible with bringing young players through and also recommending certain players to him. He will say yes or no. He has the final word. No-one else. I am not going to do things like bring players in behind his back. I am not into that. Everything that happens will be run past him and he will say yes or no.

 

In an interview that appears in the September edition of the official Newcastle United magazine Mike Ashley said: "If the deal is right - and that means the right player who Kevin wants - then we will do that deal. Kevin himself is very particular about who he wants. To use his words, they have to have the right heart for Newcastle. That is massively important for him. If they don't then he's not interested."

 

For further information please contact:

 

Richard Bevan, LMA Chief Executive, 07860 474 767

 

 

Exactly who was bought in or sold without Keegan's consent? Anyone know?

 

Milner and perhaps that German player as his replacement which ended up falling through?