KK resigns - see OP for new club statement issued September 6th

[LooneyToonArmy]

Money in charge for Hull,  assisted by Hughton and Alan Thompson.

 

Or Hughton in charge assisted by Thomson and Richard Money?

 

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11678_4117052,00.html

[cp40]

how appropriate

 

MONEY....in charge...

[NE5]

Anyone else watching Braveheart (C4) and thinking it somewhat reflects the current state of affairs at NUFC?

 

William Wallace = Kevin Keegan - passionate, a true leader, motivational, real enthusiasm, wants whats best for his people.

Scottish nobles = Newcastle Directors. Heartless, backstabbing, ruthless but successful folk only interested in lining their own pockets.

Robert the Bruce = Mike Ashley? Needs to wake up and stop listening to shit advice from his cronies, and will unfortunately only do so once Wallace/King Kev has gone?

 

Counting down the days till a mounted Keegan storms a London penthouse and kills Wise in his bed with a flail.

 

I haven't seen it, does William Wallace throw his toys out of the pram and storm off leaving his people behind in the end?

 

have you answered what I asked you the last time you spouted this bollocks ?

 

Do you think Alex Ferguson, Arsene Wenger for instance would stand for other people choosing the buys and sales ?

 

fact is, your precious DOF bollocks is at the root of all this. The club just want a yes man. I told you ages ago that no manager worth their salt would work under such conditions.

 

As for hoying toys out of the pram.........  irony personfied ......... mackems.gif

 

As I said to you then, if Keegan didn't like it then why except the job? I doubt Ferguson or Wenger would work like it which would be why they wouldn't accept the job.

 

Btw you didn't answer my question the other day - Are you glad Wise went out and bought a striker or would you prefer to stick with the strikers we've got?

 

Not sure why I'm even replying, one quick look at the time will tell us you're pissed looking for a cyber fight.

 

haha, no I'm not pissed, and when I go to the pub I don't take my internet phone with me .......

 

Anyway, I'm not glad Wise bought a striker, what a stupid question, he shouldn't have bought anybody. He should be accountable to the manager, and also the managers choice for the role. Not that the manager would have chosen him to be his glorifed scout, recent events sort of show this to be true.

 

You should keep up with the threads before jumping in. Even the biggest idiot by now has grasped the fact that Keegan has been misled and/or the goalposts moved, by this "professional board".  Or possibly they haven't grasped it yet, it seems a few haven't.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But didn't you say the club have to get a striker in and if they don't then they've failed? Even though i pointed out to you that he might not want one?

 

If they hadn't got one in meaning Keegan had stayed you would have been moaning over that.

 

a striker the manager wanted, Baggio.

 

A striker the manager wanted. You do realise he's gone in protest about something I take it ?

 

Do you really think he didn;t want a striker ?

 

We all know Keegan, he has been toeing the party line, and saying the diplomatic thing. Thats all he's been doing.

 

 

 

That must have been Smith then, seeing as he refused to sell him.

 

I'm sure Smith will prove us all wrong when he gets a run up top, isn't that right NE5?

 

to the 2 of you. It means one of two things. As you are both defending Ashley for all you're worth, think about your reply.

 

I'll be waiting.

 

 

[NE5]

 

 

But he knew the system was in place, even if he wasn't reporting to Wise he would be reporting to Mort.

 

Seems to me people are just looking for excuses for keegan walking out on the club for a second time, even turning down an offer of coming to a compromise.

 

I'm surprised that you can't see a difference from reporting to the Chairman of the football club and reporting to somebody who is less qualified than Keegan.  I've never tried to defend Keegan until last night, until last night I was giving him a lot of the blame.  What has changed is that now I know that we've all been lied to and I now know that the job Keegan was given has changed in the last 3 months.

 

their outlook was obvious long before that.

 

 

[Baggio]

Anyone else watching Braveheart (C4) and thinking it somewhat reflects the current state of affairs at NUFC?

 

William Wallace = Kevin Keegan - passionate, a true leader, motivational, real enthusiasm, wants whats best for his people.

Scottish nobles = Newcastle Directors. Heartless, backstabbing, ruthless but successful folk only interested in lining their own pockets.

Robert the Bruce = Mike Ashley? Needs to wake up and stop listening to shit advice from his cronies, and will unfortunately only do so once Wallace/King Kev has gone?

 

Counting down the days till a mounted Keegan storms a London penthouse and kills Wise in his bed with a flail.

 

I haven't seen it, does William Wallace throw his toys out of the pram and storm off leaving his people behind in the end?

 

have you answered what I asked you the last time you spouted this bollocks ?

 

Do you think Alex Ferguson, Arsene Wenger for instance would stand for other people choosing the buys and sales ?

 

fact is, your precious DOF bollocks is at the root of all this. The club just want a yes man. I told you ages ago that no manager worth their salt would work under such conditions.

 

As for hoying toys out of the pram.........  irony personfied ......... mackems.gif

 

As I said to you then, if Keegan didn't like it then why except the job? I doubt Ferguson or Wenger would work like it which would be why they wouldn't accept the job.

 

Btw you didn't answer my question the other day - Are you glad Wise went out and bought a striker or would you prefer to stick with the strikers we've got?

 

Not sure why I'm even replying, one quick look at the time will tell us you're pissed looking for a cyber fight.

 

haha, no I'm not pissed, and when I go to the pub I don't take my internet phone with me .......

 

Anyway, I'm not glad Wise bought a striker, what a stupid question, he shouldn't have bought anybody. He should be accountable to the manager, and also the managers choice for the role. Not that the manager would have chosen him to be his glorifed scout, recent events sort of show this to be true.

 

You should keep up with the threads before jumping in. Even the biggest idiot by now has grasped the fact that Keegan has been misled and/or the goalposts moved, by this "professional board".  Or possibly they haven't grasped it yet, it seems a few haven't.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But didn't you say the club have to get a striker in and if they don't then they've failed? Even though i pointed out to you that he might not want one?

 

If they hadn't got one in meaning Keegan had stayed you would have been moaning over that.

 

a striker the manager wanted, Baggio.

 

A striker the manager wanted. You do realise he's gone in protest about something I take it ?

 

Do you really think he didn;t want a striker ?

 

We all know Keegan, he has been toeing the party line, and saying the diplomatic thing. Thats all he's been doing.

 

 

 

That must have been Smith then, seeing as he refused to sell him.

 

I'm sure Smith will prove us all wrong when he gets a run up top, isn't that right NE5?

 

to the 2 of you. It means one of two things. As you are both defending Ashley for all you're worth, think about your reply.

 

I'll be waiting.

 

 

 

So what striker did he want then? Henry?! mackems.gif

[afar]

Well I don't really post much at weekends, so forgive me for coming to the party late.

 

Baggio, I honestly don't understand why you are still defending the board here.  What hold do they have on you that triggers this un questionable defence for them ? Or is it just a deep down disliking for KK that's bringing you to this ?

Even Mick has seen the light, FFS if NE5 and Mick agree on something surely that says everything about a situation ?

 

I'm not blind enough to think KK didn't have a part to play in all this, I'm sure he was a little naive is accepting the job initially but he did it becasue he loves the club and felt he could bring back the good times. The clearly contradicting statement we have seen issued from the board over the weekend, shows either that the goalposts have been moved or that the previous statements about KK having final say on transfer activity and not reporting to Wise were complete lies.

 

The worst part of this whole episode for me is that the board has made this job, which was already somewhat of a hard sell, a most unatractive position for managers with any nounce and quality about them. Our only hope for the future (assuming there's no buyout) is that we find someone who's talent is in coaching and has been ignorant of the events that have took place at the club over the last week. Good luck finding him

[Guest SpinTheBlackCircle]

Well I don't really post much at weekends, so forgive me for coming to the party late.

 

Baggio, I honestly don't understand why you are still defending the board here.  What hold do they have on you that triggers this un questionable defence for them ? Or is it just a deep down disliking for KK that's bringing you to this ?

Even Mick has seen the light, FFS if NE5 and Mick agree on something surely that says everything about a situation ?

 

I'm not blind enough to think KK didn't have a part to play in all this, I'm sure he was a little naive is accepting the job initially but he did it becasue he loves the club and felt he could bring back the good times. The clearly contradicting statement we have seen issued from the board over the weekend, shows either that the goalposts have been moved or that the previous statements about KK having final say on transfer activity and not reporting to Wise were complete lies.

 

The worst part of this whole episode for me is that the board has made this job, which was already somewhat of a hard sell, a most unatractive position for managers with any nounce and quality about them. Our only hope for the future (assuming there's no buyout) is that we find someone who's talent is in coaching and has been ignorant of the events that have took place at the club over the last week. Good luck finding him

 

Baggio is a Mackem

[afar]

Well I don't really post much at weekends, so forgive me for coming to the party late.

 

Baggio, I honestly don't understand why you are still defending the board here.  What hold do they have on you that triggers this un questionable defence for them ? Or is it just a deep down disliking for KK that's bringing you to this ?

Even Mick has seen the light, FFS if NE5 and Mick agree on something surely that says everything about a situation ?

 

I'm not blind enough to think KK didn't have a part to play in all this, I'm sure he was a little naive is accepting the job initially but he did it becasue he loves the club and felt he could bring back the good times. The clearly contradicting statement we have seen issued from the board over the weekend, shows either that the goalposts have been moved or that the previous statements about KK having final say on transfer activity and not reporting to Wise were complete lies.

 

The worst part of this whole episode for me is that the board has made this job, which was already somewhat of a hard sell, a most unatractive position for managers with any nounce and quality about them. Our only hope for the future (assuming there's no buyout) is that we find someone who's talent is in coaching and has been ignorant of the events that have took place at the club over the last week. Good luck finding him

 

Baggio is a Mackem

 

That would explain everthing actually.

[Baggio]

Well I don't really post much at weekends, so forgive me for coming to the party late.

 

Baggio, I honestly don't understand why you are still defending the board here.  What hold do they have on you that triggers this un questionable defence for them ? Or is it just a deep down disliking for KK that's bringing you to this ?

Even Mick has seen the light, FFS if NE5 and Mick agree on something surely that says everything about a situation ?

 

I'm not blind enough to think KK didn't have a part to play in all this, I'm sure he was a little naive is accepting the job initially but he did it becasue he loves the club and felt he could bring back the good times. The clearly contradicting statement we have seen issued from the board over the weekend, shows either that the goalposts have been moved or that the previous statements about KK having final say on transfer activity and not reporting to Wise were complete lies.

 

The worst part of this whole episode for me is that the board has made this job, which was already somewhat of a hard sell, a most unatractive position for managers with any nounce and quality about them. Our only hope for the future (assuming there's no buyout) is that we find someone who's talent is in coaching and has been ignorant of the events that have took place at the club over the last week. Good luck finding him

 

Because this whole situation has been blown completely out of proportion due to KK being a petulant twat, he basically refused to meet with the club to find a solution and preferred to get with his lawyers to screw as much money out of the club as possible.

 

I'm not jumping to the defence of the board as they have clearly played a role in all of this but if keegan thought Smith was good enough and that we didn't need a new striker then he's an idiot, I'm just looking forward to them getting someone else in so we can put this whole thing behind us.

[Guest Darth Toon]

 

Because this whole situation has been blown completely out of proportion due to KK being a petulant twat, he basically refused to meet with the club to find a solution and preferred to get with his lawyers to screw as much money out of the club as possible.

 

Source?

[Syrette]

 

Because this whole situation has been blown completely out of proportion due to KK being a petulant twat, he basically refused to meet with the club to find a solution and preferred to get with his lawyers to screw as much money out of the club as possible.

 

Source?

 

That Steve Curry felloiw I think.

[Baggio]

 

Because this whole situation has been blown completely out of proportion due to KK being a petulant twat, he basically refused to meet with the club to find a solution and preferred to get with his lawyers to screw as much money out of the club as possible.

 

Source?

 

It's an opinion, the same as what everyone else is using to judge whats happening.

 

But it was pointed out yesterday on the Sunday Supplement that he was offered a chance to meet with the club to come to some sort of agreement where everyone can work together and pull in the same direction, he didn't even bother turning up for the meeting, that suggests he had no intention of coming back after claiming he still wants the job.

 

It's my opinion that he stayed away while his lawyers looked at his contract situation so he can push for constructive dismissal, now they think he's got a chance of screwing money out of the club he was happy to throw the towel in without even attempting to sort it out which would have been the best thing for the club.

[Mick]

 

Because this whole situation has been blown completely out of proportion due to KK being a petulant t***, he basically refused to meet with the club to find a solution and preferred to get with his lawyers to screw as much money out of the club as possible.

 

I'm not jumping to the defence of the board as they have clearly played a role in all of this but if keegan thought Smith was good enough and that we didn't need a new striker then he's an idiot, I'm just looking forward to them getting someone else in so we can put this whole thing behind us.

 

If Keegan didn't want a striker, why was he quoted as wanting Henry?

[Benwell Lad]

I can't imagine anyone was sicker than myself when it was confirmed Keegan had left, mind I'm sure most were equally sick.

One of the main reasons for being so down was that I believed Keegan fit into a structure which was designed to bring financial stability and playing success to us at last.

But Keegan walked, he wasn't fired, he CHOSE to leave rather than fight his corner and after leaving chose only to speak through the LMA in carefully worded statements designed to preserve his right to compensation.

Could the furore have been any greater if he had been fired ?

 

I have met Keegan and he is an awesome man, it's a huge pity that he can't be instrumental in Newcastle's future and use his immense motivational skills to our benefit but having supported Newcastle for half a century and seen no domestic success, foolish previous regimes trying to bankrupt the club squandering tens of millions on trophy signings and managers who failed, I'm prepared to go with the new way and hope foundations for lasting stability and success can be built and who knows perhaps even win a trophy im my lifetime.

 

I wish Keegan could be part of it but he chose to leave so I guess we just have to get on without him.

[Guest Darth Toon]

It's my opinion that he stayed away while his lawyers looked at his contract situation so he can push for constructive dismissal, now they think he's got a chance of screwing money out of the club he was happy to throw the towel in without even attempting to sort it out which would have been the best thing for the club.

 

Assuming the meeting was even offered (which is a mighty big assumption given the source is presumably the same "club insider" who has been shown to be willing to say pretty much anything to support their version of events) I think it's more likely KK was so frustrated by the manner and tone of previous communications that he knew it would be a waste of time.

 

And if the letter he received from Llambias was worded anything like the absolute abortion of a club statement that we got to see I don't blame him.

 

Besdies, if a pay-off was his primary motivation, why not just hang around and wait to be sacked?

[Baggio]

 

Because this whole situation has been blown completely out of proportion due to KK being a petulant t***, he basically refused to meet with the club to find a solution and preferred to get with his lawyers to screw as much money out of the club as possible.

 

I'm not jumping to the defence of the board as they have clearly played a role in all of this but if keegan thought Smith was good enough and that we didn't need a new striker then he's an idiot, I'm just looking forward to them getting someone else in so we can put this whole thing behind us.

 

If Keegan didn't want a striker, why was he quoted as wanting Henry?

 

He probably did want Henry, but it's been pointed out to him from the very beginning that the club wouldn't be pushing for players like this who cost big money and are on the way down.

 

Perhaps the report in the Times was right and he couldn't get his head around the strategy the club were working too, forcing Wise to come in over his head.

[afar]

Well I don't really post much at weekends, so forgive me for coming to the party late.

 

Baggio, I honestly don't understand why you are still defending the board here.  What hold do they have on you that triggers this un questionable defence for them ? Or is it just a deep down disliking for KK that's bringing you to this ?

Even Mick has seen the light, FFS if NE5 and Mick agree on something surely that says everything about a situation ?

 

I'm not blind enough to think KK didn't have a part to play in all this, I'm sure he was a little naive is accepting the job initially but he did it becasue he loves the club and felt he could bring back the good times. The clearly contradicting statement we have seen issued from the board over the weekend, shows either that the goalposts have been moved or that the previous statements about KK having final say on transfer activity and not reporting to Wise were complete lies.

 

The worst part of this whole episode for me is that the board has made this job, which was already somewhat of a hard sell, a most unatractive position for managers with any nounce and quality about them. Our only hope for the future (assuming there's no buyout) is that we find someone who's talent is in coaching and has been ignorant of the events that have took place at the club over the last week. Good luck finding him

 

Because this whole situation has been blown completely out of proportion due to KK being a petulant t***, he basically refused to meet with the club to find a solution and preferred to get with his lawyers to screw as much money out of the club as possible.

 

I'm not jumping to the defence of the board as they have clearly played a role in all of this but if keegan thought Smith was good enough and that we didn't need a new striker then he's an idiot, I'm just looking forward to them getting someone else in so we can put this whole thing behind us.

 

Baggio if you think you are the voice of reason amongst the tidal of illinformed, KK god like can't do no wrong crap. Then you are sadly mistaken.

 

Most if not all here accept that KK had a part to play iin this, I'm pretty sure he's not entirely blameless and he probably is trying to look out for himself in getting a package for leaving, like about 99% of us would in his position.

 

As naive KK may have been for taking on the role in the first place, so too was Ashley in appointing him, he's virtually un sackable, an old fashioned type manager that would find working under a DOF system very difficult if not impossible. Ashley described his appointment as a "no brainer" need I remind you, if that was the case then he surely must have had an idea what best environment KK would need to perform well, SJH (the life president) should have been able to point him in the right direction, if he'd bothered to seek his counsel.

 

They have handled things since it blew up like a bunch of amateurs, their PR is shambolic, they just have no idea how to communicate with the fans. But worst of all they've have made the job, which should be a hugely attractive one, almost untouchable by quality managers.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

So afar, if Keegan has to take some of the blame then how come it is only Ashley/Wise that have to take the brunt of the fans ill-informed rage?

 

If you're saying it's because of poor PR then I can't go along with that at all, they put out statements when they had something to say. No other club would have acted any differently in their dealings with the fans (read 'media').

 

It seems to me like he is getting a very easy ride on all counts, even if a small minority of people have enough sense to see what Baggio is saying.

[Slugsy]

Well I don't really post much at weekends, so forgive me for coming to the party late.

 

Baggio, I honestly don't understand why you are still defending the board here.  What hold do they have on you that triggers this un questionable defence for them ? Or is it just a deep down disliking for KK that's bringing you to this ?

Even Mick has seen the light, FFS if NE5 and Mick agree on something surely that says everything about a situation ?

 

I'm not blind enough to think KK didn't have a part to play in all this, I'm sure he was a little naive is accepting the job initially but he did it becasue he loves the club and felt he could bring back the good times. The clearly contradicting statement we have seen issued from the board over the weekend, shows either that the goalposts have been moved or that the previous statements about KK having final say on transfer activity and not reporting to Wise were complete lies.

 

The worst part of this whole episode for me is that the board has made this job, which was already somewhat of a hard sell, a most unatractive position for managers with any nounce and quality about them. Our only hope for the future (assuming there's no buyout) is that we find someone who's talent is in coaching and has been ignorant of the events that have took place at the club over the last week. Good luck finding him

 

Because this whole situation has been blown completely out of proportion due to KK being a petulant t***, he basically refused to meet with the club to find a solution and preferred to get with his lawyers to screw as much money out of the club as possible.

 

I'm not jumping to the defence of the board as they have clearly played a role in all of this but if keegan thought Smith was good enough and that we didn't need a new striker then he's an idiot, I'm just looking forward to them getting someone else in so we can put this whole thing behind us.

 

Baggie if you think you are the voice of reason amongst the tidal of illinformed, KK god like can't do no wrong crap. Then you are sadly mistaken.

 

Most if not all here accept that KK had a part to play iin this, I'm pretty sure he's not entirely blameless and he probably is trying to look out for himself in getting a package for leaving, like about 99% of us would in his position.

 

As Niave KK may have been for taking on the role in the first place, so too was Ashley in appointing him, he's virtually un sackable, an old fashioned type manager that would find working under a DOF system very difficult if not impossible. Ashley described his appointment as a "no brainer" need I remind you, if that was the case then he surely must have had an idea what best environment KK would need to perform well, SJH (the life president) should have been able to point him in the right direction, if he'd bothered to seek his counsel.

 

They have handled things since they blew up like a bunch of amateurs, their PR is shambolic, they just have no idea how to communicate with the fans. But worst of all they've have made the job, which should be a hugely attractive one, almost untouchable by quality managers.

 

Great post

[Guest johnson293]

So afar, if Keegan has to take some of the blame then how come it is only Ashley/Wise that have to take the brunt of the fans ill-informed rage?

 

If you're saying it's because of poor PR then I can't go along with that at all, they put out statements when they had something to say. No other club would have acted any differently in their dealings with the fans (read 'media').

 

It seems to me like he is getting a very easy ride on all counts, even if a small minority of people have enough sense to see what Baggio is saying.

 

Because the PR and statements they (NUFC) have put out have been very poor.

 

The first statement they put out was several hours after the inital rumours broke, and didn't answer what everyone wanted to know - whether Keegan had gone.

 

They then waited another two days to respond further, answering what everyone wanted to know in the first place - that Keegan wasn't sacked, and hadn't resigned, so effectively was still at the club.

 

Then, after KK's resignation and statement of reason (manager should be allowed ot manage, etc) they issued what can only be dscribed as a very unprofessional, almost childish response, with their list of 'facts' - a list of facts that contradict quotes direct from Ashley, Wise, et al in the previous weeks/months. This response coming late on Saturday night when they probably felt/hoped he and/or the LMA wouldn't have time to respond before the Media got hold of it.

 

KK probably isn't blameless in this, but the Board have acted quite poorly, and would do well to remember what they have said in articles/interviews previously, before stating 'facts'.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

So afar, if Keegan has to take some of the blame then how come it is only Ashley/Wise that have to take the brunt of the fans ill-informed rage?

 

If you're saying it's because of poor PR then I can't go along with that at all, they put out statements when they had something to say. No other club would have acted any differently in their dealings with the fans (read 'media').

 

It seems to me like he is getting a very easy ride on all counts, even if a small minority of people have enough sense to see what Baggio is saying.

 

Because the PR and statements they put out have been very poor.

 

The first statement they put out was several hours after the inital rumours broke, and didn't answer what everyone wanted to know - whether Keegan had gone.

 

They then waited another two days to respond further, answering what everyone wanted to know in the first place - that Keegan wasn't sacked, and hadn't resigned, so effectively was still at the club.

 

Then, after KK's resignation and statement of reason (manger should be allowed ot manage, etc) they issued what can only be dscribed as a very unprofessional, almost childish response, with their list of 'facts' - a list of facts that contradict quotes direct from Ashley, Wise, et al in the previous weeks/months.

 

KK isn't blameless in this, but the Board have acted quite poorly, and would do well to remember what they have said in articles/interviews previously, before stating 'facts'.

 

Well I know, both sides have previously said everything was fine on bringing in players. The board have said that KK had a say, and he himself never spoke out about it before. What we don't know is what say he did have and what the dispute was about in detail.

 

But football clubs don't put out statements every couple of hours to respond to ongoing press speculation. When they were having discussions they said so, and when something was decided they announced it.

 

To say the problems were cause by the PR and not by the reality of KK leaving us just seems a bit misleading to me.

 

There's nothing the club could have said that would have stopped people turning against them like they have. At least I can't think of it.

[TRon]

So afar, if Keegan has to take some of the blame then how come it is only Ashley/Wise that have to take the brunt of the fans ill-informed rage?

 

If you're saying it's because of poor PR then I can't go along with that at all, they put out statements when they had something to say. No other club would have acted any differently in their dealings with the fans (read 'media').

 

It seems to me like he is getting a very easy ride on all counts, even if a small minority of people have enough sense to see what Baggio is saying.

 

Because the PR and statements they put out have been very poor.

 

The first statement they put out was several hours after the inital rumours broke, and didn't answer what everyone wanted to know - whether Keegan had gone.

 

They then waited another two days to respond further, answering what everyone wanted to know in the first place - that Keegan wasn't sacked, and hadn't resigned, so effectively was still at the club.

 

Then, after KK's resignation and statement of reason (manger should be allowed ot manage, etc) they issued what can only be dscribed as a very unprofessional, almost childish response, with their list of 'facts' - a list of facts that contradict quotes direct from Ashley, Wise, et al in the previous weeks/months.

 

KK isn't blameless in this, but the Board have acted quite poorly, and would do well to remember what they have said in articles/interviews previously, before stating 'facts'.

 

Quite laughable that people are pointing to magazine interviews to "prove" the board were lying over how much say KK had over transfers. Obviously they were going to support their manager in public, even if they couldn't seriously follow up some of his more ambitious targets. Try reading between the lines ffs.

[Guest johnson293]

So afar, if Keegan has to take some of the blame then how come it is only Ashley/Wise that have to take the brunt of the fans ill-informed rage?

 

If you're saying it's because of poor PR then I can't go along with that at all, they put out statements when they had something to say. No other club would have acted any differently in their dealings with the fans (read 'media').

 

It seems to me like he is getting a very easy ride on all counts, even if a small minority of people have enough sense to see what Baggio is saying.

 

Because the PR and statements they put out have been very poor.

 

The first statement they put out was several hours after the inital rumours broke, and didn't answer what everyone wanted to know - whether Keegan had gone.

 

They then waited another two days to respond further, answering what everyone wanted to know in the first place - that Keegan wasn't sacked, and hadn't resigned, so effectively was still at the club.

 

Then, after KK's resignation and statement of reason (manger should be allowed ot manage, etc) they issued what can only be dscribed as a very unprofessional, almost childish response, with their list of 'facts' - a list of facts that contradict quotes direct from Ashley, Wise, et al in the previous weeks/months.

 

KK isn't blameless in this, but the Board have acted quite poorly, and would do well to remember what they have said in articles/interviews previously, before stating 'facts'.

 

Quite laughable that people are pointing to magazine interviews to "prove" the board were lying over how much say KK had over transfers. Obviously they were going to support their manager in public, even if they couldn't seriously follow up some of his more ambitious targets. Try reading between the lines ffs.

 

I find it quite laughable that some poeple will believe a weekend Newspaper article clearly put out as a smear campaign against a manager, stating he allegedly wanted the club to buy Ronaldinho, Lampard, Beckham and Henry, when he knew the budget was £12m!!!... allegedly.

[Bad Mongo]

TRon, that's just ridiculous. That interview was barely weeks before he left, and Ashley claimed that a) the right signing is a player Keegan wants who wants to play for Newcastle and b) there was money available for the right signings. Both of those claims were incorrect, as has been proven. Even the official statement from the club contradict them.

 

How is that "backing your manager in the public"? It undermines his position when actual fact proves it's all bollocks.

 

What I find laughable is that some people still think these crooks are going to try turning us into Arsenal without investing anything in the squad.

[afar]

So afar, if Keegan has to take some of the blame then how come it is only Ashley/Wise that have to take the brunt of the fans ill-informed rage?

 

If you're saying it's because of poor PR then I can't go along with that at all, they put out statements when they had something to say. No other club would have acted any differently in their dealings with the fans (read 'media').

 

It seems to me like he is getting a very easy ride on all counts, even if a small minority of people have enough sense to see what Baggio is saying.

 

The board at the end of the day are accountable and have to accept the brunt of the blame even for the Manager's actions, they appointed him after all. From the statements that have been made by both camps, it's clear that the DOF thing and purchasing of players, which sounds to have been the root of the problems, the goalposts have changed. We were told KK had the final say, however right or wrong he is with his decisions, he should have been allowed to stand by them. Instead he was undermined, overruled and players were brought in without his approval. Then we are told that KK didn't have final say after all !!!  You can not move goalposts like this or expecting managers to cover up for your lies indefinitely.

 

A lot of fans will give KK an easy ride, because he's KK, I do not deny that, but that doesn't make them wrong here. He's shown once again to be a man of principle who is quite prepared to walk away from something if he does not believe in it. He is somewhat of a hot head and seems to do a lot of things in the heat of the moment, but the fact that it took so long for this to be confirmed suggests that he was persuadable here, things could have been done to prevent him leaving, they weren't and the rest is history. For me the board take blame for this because KK as manager of NUFC was the best for the club IMO, not a DOF structure. Give KK the best environment to thieve in not expect him to compromise his own beliefs to fit within a structure that does not in his opinion play to his strengths.

 

There was a small minority saying things weren’t right at the start of the transfer window,  I think you were one of the people pretty vocal about telling us that we were wrong. Well it looks like we were proved to be right. Now you want to join this minority saying it’s not the board fault, well I’m sorry but I sincerely doubt too many will ever share that opinion.