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What's the point in qualifying for these competitions if you are not going to try in them?

 

 

 

Are Villa going to field a weakened team in the CL next season to protect their good league position so they might get back in the CL the season after?

 

 

What's the point?

 

Exactly. I keep hearing "ah but the UEFA Cup is a devalued competition" - yeah, and this is why.

 

Spurs and the Carling Cup mirrors the same argument also..

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Man City look as good as anyone on paper in this competition now Valencia and Milan have been knocked out. They also have  AaB in the next round, wouldn't be surprised to see them get into the latter stages now; either semi's or final.

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I'm talking about on here, KD.

 

Oh ok, my mistake.

 

You definately made the correct decision resting your players though. Your 1st half performance against Chelsea was pretty abysmal tbh, and some of it was for sure down to all the energy the players used up on wednesday.

 

Bet the Villa fans on their way back from Russia minus a grand agree entirely.

Don't think they'll give 2 f***s if it means they'll qualify for the champions league.

Says someone who couldn't pick out White Hart Lane on a map. The way both clubs have treated their supporters (you know, the ones who actually pay their money) is disgusting imo.

 

Where did that come from? apart from it being an innacurate statement, i don't quite understand the need for it. I'm guessing you had a bad day at work today.

 

 

ahhh i see, the ones who actually pay, what like Brummie (who doesn't seem "disgusted" to me) :rolleyes:.

Sorry mate but if I had just paid the best part of a month's wage to go see my team put out our reserves and get humped, I wouldn't care if we won the qualified the the Super Cool Mint Head league. Why bother going to the Champions League games then?

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If Villa/Spurs had gone through looking at the teams left there is no reason why they couldn't have gone all the way. Next round draw is below.

 

 

Werder Bremen (GER) v AS Saint-Etienne (FRA)

 

PFC CSKA Moskva (RUS) v FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR)

 

Udinese Calcio (ITA) v FC Zenit St. Petersburg (RUS)

 

Paris Saint-Germain FC (FRA) v SC Braga (POR)

 

FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR) v FC Metalist Kharkiv (UKR)

 

Manchester City FC (ENG) v Aalborg BK (DEN)

 

Olympique de Marseille (FRA) v AFC Ajax (NED)

 

Hamburger SV (GER) v Galatasaray AŞ (TUR)

 

 

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yesterdays fiver on waffa cup, cracked me up:

 

A SLAP IN THE VASE

 

With just 512 of the continent's finest also-rans left, it's squeaky

bum time in Euro Vase, with fry as small as NEC Nijmegen, Metalist

Kharkiv and Tottenham Hotspur anxious to extricate themselves from a

competition that, like smack addiction and Scientology, is easy to

get into but difficult to escape. But like Andy Dufresne in The

Shawshank Redemption, who "crawled through a river of sh1t and came

out clean" Tottenham are two goals down from their first leg defeat

at Shakhtar Donetsk and can see the light at the end of that filthy

sewage pipe they're slithering through. Which is not to say their

manager 'Arry Redknapp 'asn't been toeing the party line by

pretending 'e wants to win tonight's encounter. Because 'e 'as.

 

"It would be great for the players if we could pull off a win and

we'll be doing our best to do that," said 'Arry, who will be doing

his best to do that by fielding a team comprised of his wife Sandra,

five slalom poles, Pascal Chimbonda and a four-man wall of training

mannequins. Still, at least Spurs have made the gesture of

acknowledging these recessionary times and throwing open the doors of

White Hart Lane for tonight's game to anyone dumb enough to stump up

GBP33.

 

Meanwhile on the plastic pitch at Moscow's Luzhniki Stadium, in a

match that may well have ended by the time today's Fiver hit your

inbox, Aston Villa will be aiming to confirm their exit from this

year's Euro Vase by resting all their big name players and fielding

the first 11 supporters to arrive at the ground. "Unconvincing

platitude about our fringe players being more than capable," said

Martin O'Neill, by way of explanation.

 

Next season, of course, there won't be any Euro Vase, as the old

tournament is being replaced by one that promises to be almost

identical, except slightly more tedious. "Marketing ... broadcast

rights ... sponsor ... logo ... new brand identity," read the Uefa

press release in which the new tournament's format was revealed. "Oh

... and fans and football," it added, by way of an afterthought,

except without the mention of fans.

 

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Ben Arfa's free kick for Marseille was one of the best free kicks I have seen. Must of been about 35 yards out, curled it top corner, hit one post then the other and went in.

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Man City look as good as anyone on paper in this competition now Valencia and Milan have been knocked out. They also have  AaB in the next round, wouldn't be surprised to see them get into the latter stages now; either semi's or final.

 

Aab which i care at least as much for as Newcastle will hopefully be up for the challenge! City have been a lucky to advance in the cup on the behalf of 2 other Danish teams: FCK and FCM....especially against FCM they were lucky!

 

Last night City fielded probably the best side they could.....and i see them as strong contenders to the cup title since the seem to care about the tournament!

 

But it would be truly amazing if Aab could get through! remember we just slammed Deportivo 6-1 over 2 matchees :coolsmiley:

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I'd be well pissed off if Moyes had done the same last season when we were fourth for a long period while getting to the last 16 of the UEFA. I was gutted when Fiorentina beat us on pens and really wanted to win the thing.

 

Isn't that the proof of the pudding, though?

 

You were fourth for a long period and wound up fifth - kind of makes MON's argument, really

 

Also, nobody seems to be having a go at Spurs for doing similar?

 

 

 

 

Not really.

 

I can see why you'd think that from the outside but it was not progressing in the UEFA which spoiled our season.

 

Everyone was on a real downer after getting knocked out in harsh fashion and the league form tailed off immediately afterwards. Moyes said as much himself last season. He felt our best period of the season was when we had 2 games a week to concentrate on and there was a buzz about maybe wining something. I agree with him too, we played some of the best football seen for years during that time.

 

Hopefully for your sake the same won't happen at Villa.

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yesterdays fiver on waffa cup, cracked me up:

 

A SLAP IN THE VASE

 

With just 512 of the continent's finest also-rans left, it's squeaky

bum time in Euro Vase, with fry as small as NEC Nijmegen, Metalist

Kharkiv and Tottenham Hotspur anxious to extricate themselves from a

competition that, like smack addiction and Scientology, is easy to

get into but difficult to escape. But like Andy Dufresne in The

Shawshank Redemption, who "crawled through a river of sh1t and came

out clean" Tottenham are two goals down from their first leg defeat

at Shakhtar Donetsk and can see the light at the end of that filthy

sewage pipe they're slithering through. Which is not to say their

manager 'Arry Redknapp 'asn't been toeing the party line by

pretending 'e wants to win tonight's encounter. Because 'e 'as.

 

"It would be great for the players if we could pull off a win and

we'll be doing our best to do that," said 'Arry, who will be doing

his best to do that by fielding a team comprised of his wife Sandra,

five slalom poles, Pascal Chimbonda and a four-man wall of training

mannequins. Still, at least Spurs have made the gesture of

acknowledging these recessionary times and throwing open the doors of

White Hart Lane for tonight's game to anyone dumb enough to stump up

GBP33.

 

Meanwhile on the plastic pitch at Moscow's Luzhniki Stadium, in a

match that may well have ended by the time today's Fiver hit your

inbox, Aston Villa will be aiming to confirm their exit from this

year's Euro Vase by resting all their big name players and fielding

the first 11 supporters to arrive at the ground. "Unconvincing

platitude about our fringe players being more than capable," said

Martin O'Neill, by way of explanation.

 

Next season, of course, there won't be any Euro Vase, as the old

tournament is being replaced by one that promises to be almost

identical, except slightly more tedious. "Marketing ... broadcast

rights ... sponsor ... logo ... new brand identity," read the Uefa

press release in which the new tournament's format was revealed. "Oh

... and fans and football," it added, by way of an afterthought,

except without the mention of fans.

 

 

Where's that from?  ???

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yesterdays fiver on waffa cup, cracked me up:

 

A SLAP IN THE VASE

 

With just 512 of the continent's finest also-rans left, it's squeaky

bum time in Euro Vase, with fry as small as NEC Nijmegen, Metalist

Kharkiv and Tottenham Hotspur anxious to extricate themselves from a

competition that, like smack addiction and Scientology, is easy to

get into but difficult to escape. But like Andy Dufresne in The

Shawshank Redemption, who "crawled through a river of sh1t and came

out clean" Tottenham are two goals down from their first leg defeat

at Shakhtar Donetsk and can see the light at the end of that filthy

sewage pipe they're slithering through. Which is not to say their

manager 'Arry Redknapp 'asn't been toeing the party line by

pretending 'e wants to win tonight's encounter. Because 'e 'as.

 

"It would be great for the players if we could pull off a win and

we'll be doing our best to do that," said 'Arry, who will be doing

his best to do that by fielding a team comprised of his wife Sandra,

five slalom poles, Pascal Chimbonda and a four-man wall of training

mannequins. Still, at least Spurs have made the gesture of

acknowledging these recessionary times and throwing open the doors of

White Hart Lane for tonight's game to anyone dumb enough to stump up

GBP33.

 

Meanwhile on the plastic pitch at Moscow's Luzhniki Stadium, in a

match that may well have ended by the time today's Fiver hit your

inbox, Aston Villa will be aiming to confirm their exit from this

year's Euro Vase by resting all their big name players and fielding

the first 11 supporters to arrive at the ground. "Unconvincing

platitude about our fringe players being more than capable," said

Martin O'Neill, by way of explanation.

 

Next season, of course, there won't be any Euro Vase, as the old

tournament is being replaced by one that promises to be almost

identical, except slightly more tedious. "Marketing ... broadcast

rights ... sponsor ... logo ... new brand identity," read the Uefa

press release in which the new tournament's format was revealed. "Oh

... and fans and football," it added, by way of an afterthought,

except without the mention of fans.

 

 

Where's that from?  ???

 

guardian, the fiver - very, VERY funny shit out every day at five, funnily enough

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