oldtype Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Anything else think it's becoming pretty clear that Kinnear is now the one running transfers? Seems like a pretty logical explanation for our selection of targets becoming decidedly unimaginitive and also downright shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Anything else think it's becoming pretty clear that Kinnear is now the one running transfers? Seems like a pretty logical explanation for our selection of targets becoming decidedly unimaginitive and also downright shit. he may have chose them, but the budget, or lack of, was handed down to him. but i agree he is woefully out of his depth, as is Ashley, wise, lambias. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Anything else think it's becoming pretty clear that Kinnear is now the one running transfers? Seems like a pretty logical explanation for our selection of targets becoming decidedly unimaginitive and also downright shit. Sounds like he is for the first team at least. To be honest I haven't got a clue what's going on in the background. Seems like the loss of Jimenez was part of Ashley abandoning his previous system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Anything else think it's becoming pretty clear that Kinnear is now the one running transfers? Seems like a pretty logical explanation for our selection of targets becoming decidedly unimaginitive and also downright s***. Sounds like he is for the first team at least. To be honest I haven't got a clue what's going on in the background. Seems like the loss of Jimenez was part of Ashley abandoning his previous system. Mike Ashley really is unbelievable. How did a bloke this thick ever succeed in business. So in response to the Keegan fiasco, he apparently decided that he would have to scrap the system, which was probably the only successful thing he did here, and give 100% control to the manager. The manager being in control isn't a bad idea in itself, but he fails to consider that "the manager" is Joe f***ing Kinnear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Anything else think it's becoming pretty clear that Kinnear is now the one running transfers? Seems like a pretty logical explanation for our selection of targets becoming decidedly unimaginitive and also downright s***. Sounds like he is for the first team at least. To be honest I haven't got a clue what's going on in the background. Seems like the loss of Jimenez was part of Ashley abandoning his previous system. Mike Ashley really is unbelievable. How did a bloke this thick ever succeed in business. So in response to the Keegan fiasco, he apparently decided that he would have to scrap the system, which was probably the only successful thing he did here, and give 100% control to the manager. Without even considering for a moment that "the manager" is Joe fucking Kinnear. Can't even begin to answer that, the way he went from (what seemed) a considered strategy and system to total chaos over night is inexplicable. That's my major beef with him to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Amy Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Keegan walked before he got a chance to fix it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Keegan walked before he got a chance to fix it. Maybe so, but then he should have stuck to his guns and got a manager in who would work with the system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Mongo Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Anything else think it's becoming pretty clear that Kinnear is now the one running transfers? Seems like a pretty logical explanation for our selection of targets becoming decidedly unimaginitive and also downright s***. Sounds like he is for the first team at least. To be honest I haven't got a clue what's going on in the background. Seems like the loss of Jimenez was part of Ashley abandoning his previous system. Mike Ashley really is unbelievable. How did a bloke this thick ever succeed in business. So in response to the Keegan fiasco, he apparently decided that he would have to scrap the system, which was probably the only successful thing he did here, and give 100% control to the manager. The manager being in control isn't a bad idea in itself, but he fails to consider that "the manager" is Joe f***ing Kinnear. The system wasn't a success. The scouting was, to a degree, in that it got us Bassong (Argentine internationals aren't exactly hard to find, nor was Guthrie, and the other players have failed). The system was a recipe for conflicts, and that's what it created. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Anything else think it's becoming pretty clear that Kinnear is now the one running transfers? Seems like a pretty logical explanation for our selection of targets becoming decidedly unimaginitive and also downright s***. Sounds like he is for the first team at least. To be honest I haven't got a clue what's going on in the background. Seems like the loss of Jimenez was part of Ashley abandoning his previous system. Mike Ashley really is unbelievable. How did a bloke this thick ever succeed in business. So in response to the Keegan fiasco, he apparently decided that he would have to scrap the system, which was probably the only successful thing he did here, and give 100% control to the manager. The manager being in control isn't a bad idea in itself, but he fails to consider that "the manager" is Joe f***ing Kinnear. The system wasn't a success. The scouting was, to a degree, in that it got us Bassong (Argentine internationals aren't exactly hard to find, nor was Guthrie, and the other players have failed). The system was a recipe for conflicts, and that's what it created. I'd say the system resulted in the most sensible and productive spending we have done in recent memory. I can't think of any of the players that have 'failed'. It doesn't matter whether Colo and Jonas were 'hard to find' or not, fact is we identified them and we got them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Anything else think it's becoming pretty clear that Kinnear is now the one running transfers? Seems like a pretty logical explanation for our selection of targets becoming decidedly unimaginitive and also downright shit. yes and no. i imagine the timing is more down to those above him, ie the fact he had to convene a meeting two weeks into the window to talk about funds and targets, or the fact that we seemingly bid for all our targets with a couple of hours spare instead of using 30 odd days in which to conduct business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Anything else think it's becoming pretty clear that Kinnear is now the one running transfers? Seems like a pretty logical explanation for our selection of targets becoming decidedly unimaginitive and also downright s***. Sounds like he is for the first team at least. To be honest I haven't got a clue what's going on in the background. Seems like the loss of Jimenez was part of Ashley abandoning his previous system. Mike Ashley really is unbelievable. How did a bloke this thick ever succeed in business. So in response to the Keegan fiasco, he apparently decided that he would have to scrap the system, which was probably the only successful thing he did here, and give 100% control to the manager. The manager being in control isn't a bad idea in itself, but he fails to consider that "the manager" is Joe f***ing Kinnear. Hey!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Anything else think it's becoming pretty clear that Kinnear is now the one running transfers? Seems like a pretty logical explanation for our selection of targets becoming decidedly unimaginitive and also downright s***. Sounds like he is for the first team at least. To be honest I haven't got a clue what's going on in the background. Seems like the loss of Jimenez was part of Ashley abandoning his previous system. Mike Ashley really is unbelievable. How did a bloke this thick ever succeed in business. So in response to the Keegan fiasco, he apparently decided that he would have to scrap the system, which was probably the only successful thing he did here, and give 100% control to the manager. The manager being in control isn't a bad idea in itself, but he fails to consider that "the manager" is Joe f***ing Kinnear. Hey!!!! Are you Mike Ashley, unbelievable? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Mongo Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 The system wasn't a success. The scouting was, to a degree, in that it got us Bassong (Argentine internationals aren't exactly hard to find, nor was Guthrie, and the other players have failed). The system was a recipe for conflicts, and that's what it created. I'd say the system resulted in the most sensible and productive spending we have done in recent memory. I can't think of any of the players that have 'failed'. It doesn't matter whether Colo and Jonas were 'hard to find' or not, fact is we identified them and we got them. Tell me what's sensible in getting rid of all our creative players without replacing them? Milner has more assists and goals this year than Jonas has had in his whole carreer. I'm not dissing Jonas, btw, I'm just pointing out that although he's a better player in many ways, he doesn't contribute anything in attack, and no other player brought in produces anything in attack: he's been bought because he was a bargain, not because he filled a specific need in the team. Tell me what's sensible in not buying any backup for the fullback positions even though the manager has been harping on about the need for reinforcements for several months? What's sensible in paying a record amount for a defender who's too weak to succeed in the premiership (a rather poor statement signing, for the money)? There's no sense to it, because none of the players have been bought within a vision as for how the team is supposed to play. And I've said this before, to you. For some reason, you seem to think it's irrelevant that we have a totally unbalanced team and have done nothing to rectify our actual problems. All because our two best signings were the cheapest ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Just heard Kinnear on SSN and Radio Newcastle before. Exactly as I expected and he talks shite again. Yesterday it was, "We went for Johnson and when we couldnt get him we went for Richardson". Now he's saying we nearly got Johnson and got the final rejection an hour before the deadline, while at the same time saying we bid for Richardson at 12, and got the no reply at half 3. Timing a bit off there Joe. Whats the stupid cunt going on about! Plus, what the fuck were they doing when they were waiting on the replies which were obviously going to be rejections. 3 and a half hours waiting for the obvious "no" reply from Sunderland. And we know they didn't go for anyone else because Kinnear would be shouting it from the rooftops. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Just heard Kinnear on SSN and Radio Newcastle before. Exactly as I expected and he talks s**** again. Yesterday it was, "We went for Johnson and when we couldnt get him we went for Richardson". Now he's saying we nearly got Johnson and got the final rejection an hour before the deadline, while at the same time saying we bid for Richardson at 12, and got the no reply at half 3. Timing a bit off there Joe. Whats the stupid c*** going on about! Plus, what the f*** were they doing when they were waiting on the replies which were obviously going to be rejections. 3 and a half hours waiting for the obvious "no" reply from Sunderland. And we know they didn't go for anyone else because Kinnear would be shouting it from the rooftops. They had a month to make phone calls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest michaelfoster Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Derby Draw - Deadline Day Disappointment - Insomnia Posted by Rob Lee 17 hours, 25 minutes ago Also, on a final note, it is brilliant that Charles N'Zogbia has left the club, for not Arsenal, PSG or Chelsea, but Wigan Athletic. The French whinger stated that he would never play for NUFC again after Joe Kinnear accidentally called him Charles 'Insomnia' in a TV interview. Pathetic excuse to leave if there was one, but his moaning was becoming tedious and to see the back of this over-rated little brat is a delight. Good luck Steve Bruce at Wigan, your turn to keep this horrible little man happy...and don't get his name wrong, or else! wp Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Journal Meanwhile, Kinnear has hinted that the club may revisit their interest in Darren Bent if they remain in the Premier League. He could replace Michael Owen, who Kinnear admits may leave at the end of his contract in June. “It’s possible that we’ll go back for Darren – especially as Michael might walk out in the summer,” he admitted. “We’d like to keep Michael, but I’m not confident that we will.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Journal Meanwhile, Kinnear has hinted that the club may revisit their interest in Darren Bent if they remain in the Premier League. He could replace Michael Owen, who Kinnear admits may leave at the end of his contract in June. Its possible that well go back for Darren especially as Michael might walk out in the summer, he admitted. Wed like to keep Michael, but Im not confident that we will. Don't forget to offer £2million for Lampard then switch to Kenwyn Jones on the final day first Joe. You fat pleb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Journal Meanwhile, Kinnear has hinted that the club may revisit their interest in Darren Bent if they remain in the Premier League. He could replace Michael Owen, who Kinnear admits may leave at the end of his contract in June. “It’s possible that we’ll go back for Darren – especially as Michael might walk out in the summer,” he admitted. “We’d like to keep Michael, but I’m not confident that we will.” Hardly call that a hint, would you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 nufc.com's rumour page says we were linked with Dida yesterday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Would anyone be up for getting Crouch in the summer, if we're still in the leauge that is? Think he'd be off in a shot, as Pompey are sinking like a stone and don't look like they're even trying for Adams. Don't know why he'd want to come to us like, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Think Crouch is very overrated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 I like Crouch and rate him as more than decent but he's one of those forwards who needs a team or system built around him for him to be truly effective. Anyway I imagine he'll be heavily linked with Spurs in the summer which may open up an opportunity to go for Darren Bent, who I rate higher. By the way I must confess it feels really pointless to even think about transfers and signing players these days sadly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 By the way I must confess it feels really pointless to even think about transfers and signing players these days sadly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 I like Crouch and rate him as more than decent but he's one of those forwards who needs a team or system built around him for him to be truly effective. Anyway I imagine he'll be heavily linked with Spurs in the summer which may open up an opportunity to go for Darren Bent, who I rate higher. By the way I must confess it feels really pointless to even think about transfers and signing players these days sadly. I agree. even if we are making genuine attempts to sign players, this need to raise money first before making any moves is going to kill most deals before they get off the ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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