Mick Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I don't think they're trying to fool anyone with that, like. They've always counted the 'full' cost of the player in transfers, rightly or wrongly. I would guess they are trying to focus on something to take peoples minds off Ashley taking £11 million at a time when we spent nothing while the club went backwards, they are creating headlines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Think I'll go make our tea. We're having chicken cacciatore tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Headline: Glass is half full Forum: No it isnt Rinse. Repeat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Think I'll go make our tea. We're having chicken cacciatore tonight. It's probably beans on toast, you believe anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Headline: Glass is half full Forum: No it isnt Rinse. Repeat. A half full glass is also half empty, no matter how you dress it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 what were the prices again ? all guesses, mapou 6.7mill gouffran 1.5mill sissoko 1.5mill haidara 3.5mill debuchy 5mill mbabu 1mill total of 19.2mill, leaves 12mill for agents fees and signing on fees....................possible but unlikely. Minus £7million for Ba too. 3.5 if the rumours about us getting half, him getting half are to be believed. so thats 15.5million for agents/signing on fees. as i said before, possible but unlikely and probably not far off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Headline: Glass is half full Forum: No it isnt Rinse. Repeat. If we are including wages in these figures it has to work both ways. I don't remember us claiming to have received money for Carroll, Nolan, Ba, Enrique etc.. and included how much we would have paid them which has now been saved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Headline: Glass is half full Forum: No it isnt Rinse. Repeat. If we are including wages in these figures it has to work both ways. I don't remember us claiming to have received money for Carroll, Nolan, Ba, Enrique etc.. and included how much we would have paid them which has now been saved. Is that not topping the glasss up later, or a spill that never happend? Im confused I cant keep up with this half a glass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Headline: Glass is half full Forum: No it isnt Rinse. Repeat. If we are including wages in these figures it has to work both ways. I don't remember us claiming to have received money for Carroll, Nolan, Ba, Enrique etc.. and included how much we would have paid them which has now been saved. Exactly and thank fuck someone's said that. Don't hear much talk of getting the likes of Smith and Xisco off the wage bill either, yet he'll crow on about additions to the wage bill like we give them it all in 50 pound notes when they walk through the door. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Making a profit is fantastic, it's also meaningless while we fail on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 what were the prices again ? all guesses, mapou 6.7mill gouffran 1.5mill sissoko 1.5mill haidara 3.5mill debuchy 5mill mbabu 1mill total of 19.2mill, leaves 12mill for agents fees and signing on fees....................possible but unlikely. Minus £7million for Ba too. 3.5 if the rumours about us getting half, him getting half are to be believed. so thats 15.5million for agents/signing on fees. as i said before, possible but unlikely and probably not far off. Fwiw i think the only wages he meant was the 6 months extra for Gouffran and Sissoko, after all we agreed summer deals and brought them forward. 26 weeks at anything from £60k+ plus agent fees etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 htt...... "We wouldn't have had a glass if it weren't for Sir John and Saint Kev (followed by 2pages of waffle)" Mick...."Ashley puts his own mark on the glass to con us as to where half way is" cp40....."keegnas glass was always full, I've neve seen a glass like it and probably never will again" Madras...."it's not a glass, it's a beaker" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Headline: Glass is half full Forum: No it isnt Rinse. Repeat. If we are including wages in these figures it has to work both ways. I don't remember us claiming to have received money for Carroll, Nolan, Ba, Enrique etc.. and included how much we would have paid them which has now been saved. Exactly and thank f*** someone's said that. Don't hear much talk of getting the likes of Smith and Xisco off the wage bill either, yet he'll crow on about additions to the wage bill like we give them it all in 50 pound notes when they walk through the door. the only thing that counts in that respect is the total paid out in wages in total. edit......totally! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 htt...... "We wouldn't have had a glass if it weren't for Sir John and Saint Kev (followed by 2pages of waffle)" Mick...."Ashley puts his own mark on the glass to con us as to where half way is" cp40....."keegnas glass was always full, I've neve seen a glass like it and probably never will again" Madras...."it's not a glass, it's a beaker" Financially, we're doing well and I appreciate what they've done and they don't need to spin it. I don't support the balance sheet, I support the team which they failed to strengthen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 htt...... "We wouldn't have had a glass if it weren't for Sir John and Saint Kev (followed by 2pages of waffle)" Mick...."Ashley puts his own mark on the glass to con us as to where half way is" cp40....."keegnas glass was always full, I've neve seen a glass like it and probably never will again" Madras...."it's not a glass, it's a beaker" Financially, we're doing well and I appreciate what they've done and they don't need to spin it. I don't support the balance sheet, I support the team which they failed to strangthen. i can agree with that. what gets me is those now praising the transfer strategy when in my eyes it's the same one we pursued last summer. sometime it works, sometimes it doesn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I don't support the balance sheet, I support the team which they failed to strangthen. Yh i'm sure MYM, Sissoko, Haidara, Gouffran and Debuchy magically appeared from thin air Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Yh i'm sure MYM, Sissoko, Haidara, Gouffran and Debuchy magically appeared from thin air Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 i can agree with that. what gets me is those now praising the transfer strategy when in my eyes it's the same one we pursued last summer. sometime it works, sometimes it doesn't. Hopefully they'll learn from it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 They clearly have learned from it If they hadn't they wouldn't have gone and bought 5 players and said on many occasions since the Summer they f*cked up and we need more depth. Not sure what else needs to be said or done, summer was a real shit but they rectified it and clearly have strengthened the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 i can agree with that. what gets me is those now praising the transfer strategy when in my eyes it's the same one we pursued last summer. sometime it works, sometimes it doesn't. Hopefully they'll learn from it. i'd guess the last window has just confirmed that strategy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 We'll see in the summer. Hope they don't rest on their laurels again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 They clearly have learned from it If they hadn't they wouldn't have gone and bought 5 players and said on many occasions since the Summer they f*cked up and we need more depth. Not sure what else needs to be said or done, summer was a real s*** but they rectified it and clearly have strengthened the team. Let’s see what they do in the Summer, in January they spent because we were once again in danger of going down. Let’s see how well they do when the pressure is off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 i'd guess the last window has just confirmed that strategy. It confirmed that they were prepared to spend to stay up, in the Summer they weren't prepared to spend to kick on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Not sure what else needs to be said or done Sack the manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 We'll see in the summer. Hope they don't rest on their laurels again. i don't think they did last time, just the strategy didn't get what we wanted. it's not like we said "we aren't ineterested in buying anyone" just that the deals didn't come off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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