KaKa Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I really like Everton. Think it would be a mistake for them going for Owen. However, I guess the fact that he is free and he is willing to take a substantial cut in wages is attractive for them and they probably feel he will raise their profile somewhat. On the pitch however, I think they could do with a more dynamic striker to play alongside the Yak, which brings the best out of him. I would rather play Cahill or Fellaini just behind Yakubu as they did this season rather than play Owen alongside Yakubu. If they want to go to a more conventional 4-4-2 next season I think they could do better. Just as an example they could go for someone more in the mould of the striker on loan at West Brom who did quite well for them this past season, Fortune. Wouldn't be at all expensive either. Yakubu would play really well off him as Fortune is big, fast and strong and does a decent job of holding up the ball and battling, also scored some goals too. The Yak would thrive off that as he doesn't particulalry like doing the dirty work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Shearer had a lot more minutes under his belt though iirc. He had ONE big injury Owen has milked every little bump. He's been an absolute disgrace. I just hope he's an absolute disaster at Everton. The lure of waving a sick note won't be resisted long. He did it at Liverpool last season there, did it at Real, and done it here. Too often to be all genuine. My guess is he'll do the biz for the first 3-4 months, then it'll start. Some of your posts the last few days buddy have been so paranoid, relax a bit more and accept it. He has had one big injury his career? Thats kind of ridiculous ask yourself why? He gets a shitload in appearance fee's has a 1 in goal scoring record his entire career why would be want to be in physios room. Requires spending more time at the club than anyone who is fit. Im sure when he gets treatment, hospital scans and the like the medical staff at the hospital and club can back up your claim! Paranoid ? Little over-reaction from YOU I'd say So - Owen's played more often than not, right ? The figures lie, right ? He DIDN'T spend most of his time at Real on the sick list ? Whats a "1 in goal scoring record" ? Scored once in half a season ? I suppose thats what he did at the end for us. Even Shola did better. Owen spent too much time helicoptering up here, and not enough time on the pitch in his time here Believe what YOU want (and ignore the long absenses during his time) I'll believe the opposite. "I'm sure when he gets treatment" What do you think he's been getting in the last 3 seasons ? Witch doctors ? You suggested he had 1 big injury and faked/exaggerated all the rest. It's quite ludicrous buddy tbh. Why and how buddy? He sees phyios who are obviously qualified and tell a fake from an authentic injury(or should do!). His injurys stopped him from playing .. there is absolutely not one single reason why he would not want to play. Like i say he has appearance fees to be gained from playing, playing bonuses, sponsorship deals, his England career prospects. Plus when your injured your at the training ground more than anyone else, why just why would you think that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I DON'T like Everton, mainly due to their inexplicable attitude to NUFC. That said, I agree that Owen may - just may - be a dodgy signing for them. They've got no real "stars" - everyone pulling together. I noticed some amusement though when they've talked about Owen, they've made it known that a contract would have playing considerations included. The last time I saw this was when Man City insisted on it when Howey signed for them - Howey whose sick record was as bad as Marcellino and Dyer, never mind Owen. AND they were offering half what he's on here. You suggested he had 1 big injury and faked/exaggerated all the rest. It's quite ludicrous buddy tbh. Why and how buddy? He sees phyios who are obviously qualified and tell a fake from an authentic injury(or should do!). His injurys stopped him from playing .. there is absolutely not one single reason why he would not want to play. Like i say he has appearance fees to be gained from playing, playing bonuses, sponsorship deals, his England career prospects. Plus when your injured your at the training ground more than anyone else, why just why would you think that? I suggested SHEARER was the one who had "one big injury" - read something before commenting on it. Owen has had a variety. I was first suspicious when his comments to Ericsson was followed shortly after by another long term sick leave, then just before the world cup he makes an appearance. Not saying he invents injuries - I'm saying he's fond of waving sick notes. Lets just say he's not averse to sitting with his feet up whilst others would be ready or WANT to play. And if you believe this doesn't happen, then gullibility is your strong point. Besides, it's all hypothetical. He's on his way out. He's a player of another club. Or will be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I have a sneaky feeling he would end up somewhere like AC Milan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I HATE Everton and i HATE Owen, nice couple then. Hope he bleeds that club of money too, little welsh rat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I have a sneaky feeling he would end up somewhere like AC Milan He won't leave this country because of his horse racing. I think he might end up at City, they might be pre-pared to pay for his wages and fall for the "big name" hype. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 The decision to make Owen captain together with our form in the first dozen games after he was appointed manager shows just how far out of touch with football Keegan was when he came back a year past January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I have a sneaky feeling he would end up somewhere like AC Milan They'd take one look at his injury record, and that would be enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Out of the prem teams, i cant think who would take him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I have a sneaky feeling he would end up somewhere like AC Milan Interesting. I actually think the Italian league would suit him the most at this stage in his career. A league of older players which is much slower than the other top leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I have a sneaky feeling he would end up somewhere like AC Milan They'd take one look at his injury record, and that would be enough. Didnt stop them from getting Ronaldo and they gamble on out of form players like Ronaldinho, Shevchenko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 He said he'd never go abroad again mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 The decision to make Owen captain together with our form in the first dozen games after he was appointed manager shows just how far out of touch with football Keegan was when he came back a year past January. completely agree with this. More embarrassing was when Kinnear came in and declared 'Michael Owen is the best player at this club' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 The decision to make Owen captain together with our form in the first dozen games after he was appointed manager shows just how far out of touch with football Keegan was when he came back a year past January. Got him playing the best football of his career here though. Pretty sure you're just fishing mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 He said he'd never go abroad again mind. Having no attractive offers in this country might change his mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 The decision to make Owen captain together with our form in the first dozen games after he was appointed manager shows just how far out of touch with football Keegan was when he came back a year past January. I know I can't really back up this following statement, but in my opinion ... If Owen isn't captain and say Beye or even Butt was I believe we stay up. We missed staying up by one point. I believe a more vocal and instructive leader would have at least got one more point for us this season in one of the many close calls we had when we just needed that extra push. How demoralising it must have been to see the club captain so quiet, sour faced and dejected when were struggling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Without doubt, the team lacked solid leadership on and off the pitch for the vast majority of the season and it hurt us, cost us more than that 1 point needed. Even young Danny Guthrie would have done a better job with the armband Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 The decision to make Owen captain together with our form in the first dozen games after he was appointed manager shows just how far out of touch with football Keegan was when he came back a year past January. I know I can't really back up this following statement, but in my opinion ... If Owen isn't captain and say Beye or even Butt was I believe we stay up. We missed staying up by one point. I believe a more vocal and instructive leader would have at least got one more point for us this season in one of the many close calls we had when we just needed that extra push. How demoralising it must have been to see the club captain so quiet, sour faced and dejected when were struggling. well beye or even butt should have a long hard look at themselves if they feel they need an arm band to be vocal and lead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Correct me if I'm wrong and I have may have missed something somewhere. But since we got relegated, we have had statements from our foreign stars (Beye, Jose, etc), and also from our young local lad Taylor - anyone seen or read anything from the club captain? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Correct me if I'm wrong and I have may have missed something somewhere. But since we got relegated, we have had statements from our foreign stars (Beye, Jose, etc), and also from our young local lad Taylor - anyone seen or read anything from the club captain? He was club captain by name only, not by heart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 The decision to make Owen captain together with our form in the first dozen games after he was appointed manager shows just how far out of touch with football Keegan was when he came back a year past January. I know I can't really back up this following statement, but in my opinion ... If Owen isn't captain and say Beye or even Butt was I believe we stay up. We missed staying up by one point. I believe a more vocal and instructive leader would have at least got one more point for us this season in one of the many close calls we had when we just needed that extra push. How demoralising it must have been to see the club captain so quiet, sour faced and dejected when were struggling. well beye or even butt should have a long hard look at themselves if they feel they need an arm band to be vocal and lead. I really wonder what our captain was ike off the pitch you know ... Through all those tought imes, did he ever take it upon himself to get the guys together on an off day and just hang out and try and kick back and get the team morale up and bond a bit? Without the manager or any of the coaches around? It's these little things that sometimes make all the difference. Owen's more likely to have been straight into his helicopter and out of the city. People talk about the owner not living in the city. The captain of the team didn't! Crazy stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Correct me if I'm wrong and I have may have missed something somewhere. But since we got relegated, we have had statements from our foreign stars (Beye, Jose, etc), and also from our young local lad Taylor - anyone seen or read anything from the club captain? Some may say it's a small point but I think it's pretty damning. I don't care whether his contract is expiring, he should have least made some sort of statement. He's made a disgrace of the captaincy IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 The decision to make Owen captain together with our form in the first dozen games after he was appointed manager shows just how far out of touch with football Keegan was when he came back a year past January. I know I can't really back up this following statement, but in my opinion ... If Owen isn't captain and say Beye or even Butt was I believe we stay up. We missed staying up by one point. I believe a more vocal and instructive leader would have at least got one more point for us this season in one of the many close calls we had when we just needed that extra push. How demoralising it must have been to see the club captain so quiet, sour faced and dejected when were struggling. well beye or even butt should have a long hard look at themselves if they feel they need an arm band to be vocal and lead. I really wonder what our captain was ike off the pitch you know ... Through all those tought imes, did he ever take it upon himself to get the guys together on an off day and just hang out and try and kick back and get the team morale up and bond a bit? Without the manager or any of the coaches around? It's these little things that sometimes make all the difference. Owen's more likely to have been straight into his helicopter and out of the city. People talk about the owner not living in the city. The captain of the team didn't! Crazy stuff. why couldn't anyone else do it. did tony adams become a shrinking violet cos shearer was his captain when playing for england. no. the captain wears the armband and calls heads or tails. you don't need the arm band to lead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Agree 100%, disgraced himself. Hope no fucker wants him and he retires. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Correct me if I'm wrong and I have may have missed something somewhere. But since we got relegated, we have had statements from our foreign stars (Beye, Jose, etc), and also from our young local lad Taylor - anyone seen or read anything from the club captain? Some may say it's a small point but I think it's pretty damning. I don't care whether his contract is expiring, he should have least made some sort of statement. He's made a disgrace of the captaincy IMO. He has been a poor captain, probably just not commenting now because he knows he will be leaving. Suppose he could have made some sort of apology though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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