SUPERTOON Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 The money is madness, wonder what effect this will have on the squad? They will know the truth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Why the hell would Carroll agree to being made out to be a dick, if all your conspiracies are right? Why would he be willing to be made the bad guy? Liverpool turned Carrolls head with far more money. Ashley has made no attempt to match their valuation in terms of contract etc, as he wants the cash Carroll is put into a position of turning down a massive pay increase Carroll wants pay increase & is told by Ashley he has to put in a transfer request to achieve move Andy Carroll does so. Mike Ashley wins, Andy Carroll wins to an extent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Well that's it then. Would like to know the full tale of how this went down. Got a feeling we didn't get as much money as is report. I'm not buying the Carroll transfer request thing, I would imagine he would be giving up a sizable wedge if that happened. Although it would make sense as the "Loyality" bonus he would have been due, is now saved by NUFC so that means more of the transfer fee in Ashley's pocket. Now we move on, how do we replace him, unfortunately I don't trust Pardew to do the right thing. Crouch will be here for a ridiculously high fee no doubt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Another example of Chelsea's money fucking things up. How does this set us up for the summer btw when the transfer rules etc are changed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 a) Why would we reject a bid if we wanted to sell. b) If Andy Carroll didn't want to leave, why would he tow the line and risk his reputation in his hometown forever by being forced out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tall Striker Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Remember when Zidane in his prime was sold for less than double of what Carroll is going for. Less than 70m? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 The other thing to be weighed up is that there are lifestyle issues with Carroll which may block him from fulfilling his full potential. Liverpool are taking a risk because he's not yet a £35 million player. True. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 A very emotional day for Andy awww boo fkn hoooo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 there is no fucking loyalty in football anymore is there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcQuillan Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Reckon we could pay de Jong to kill him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 The fact we've rejected an offer and then accepted after the request suggests to me he wanted to go, absolute knob. We rejected an offer to get a price. It's called negotiating. When we got our price, we were willing to sell him, but Ashley didn't want to alienate the fans, which he would have done for the umpteenth time. So he told Carroll to stick a transfer request in, and now he can say 'look, I rejected a bid and he handed a transfer request in so I just made sure Liverpool paid good money for him'. It's PR, man. You're daft if you think this stuff doesn't happen regularly. Why would Carroll, as a Newcastle fan and a Geordie himself, ever agree to that though? Exactly. I wouldn't, you wouldn't. He wouldn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pungen Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 What is the British transfer record at the moment? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Now we know why the press conference was cancelled. Exactly. Surprised so many people on here failed to read the signals from that one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Where are you going Andy?? Why man? Why?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 utterly fucking pointless getting him to sign that 5 year deal in October if we always had the intention to sell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Who's his agent? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 The fact we've rejected an offer and then accepted after the request suggests to me he wanted to go, absolute knob. We rejected an offer to get a price. It's called negotiating. When we got our price, we were willing to sell him, but Ashley didn't want to alienate the fans, which he would have done for the umpteenth time. So he told Carroll to stick a transfer request in, and now he can say 'look, I rejected a bid and he handed a transfer request in so I just made sure Liverpool paid good money for him'. It's PR, man. You're daft if you think this stuff doesn't happen regularly. Why would Carroll, as a Newcastle fan and a Geordie himself, ever agree to that though? £££ It doesn't make him a bad person and it doesn't mean he wanted to leave the club. Like I said, when the club tacitly accepted the bid, it was like saying 'we'll be better off without you'. Carroll's obviously not going to cry and say he wants to stay, man. He's a confident, young striker who feels like he's king of the world. He's going to say 'fuck you Ashley, I'm off'. He might not even feel like he's deserting the club, but just saying fuck you to the owners. How can you see things as so black and white? It's not 'player wants to stay, player stays'. Things happen. Money talks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiesned Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Very emotional day for Carroll?? VERY FUCKING EMOTIONAL DAY FOR ANDY CARROLL?!?!?! FUUUCCCCKKKKKKK OFFFFFFFFFFF! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 What is the British transfer record at the moment? 32.5m robhinio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 utterly fucking pointless getting him to sign that 5 year deal in October if we always had the intention to sell. Don't be silly - boosted his value man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 The fact we've rejected an offer and then accepted after the request suggests to me he wanted to go, absolute knob. We rejected an offer to get a better price. It's called negotiating. When we got our price, we were willing to sell him, but Ashley didn't want to alienate the fans, which he would have done for the umpteenth time. So he told Carroll to stick a transfer request in, and now he can say 'look, I rejected a bid and he handed a transfer request in so I just made sure Liverpool paid good money for him'. It's PR, man. You're daft if you think this stuff doesn't happen regularly. And you're daft if you think Carroll would roll over and accept it. "Oh yeah, of course I'll make myself look like a dick Mike. See ya." £3.5m lump sum + Treble his ages + Massive profile/exposure + Agent Pressure. = Morals out of the window Of course, he's a greedy fecker. No loyalty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 We're never going to get to see Carroll/Ben Arfa up front. Fucking hell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Wish people would stop with all the conspiracy theory bullshit about Ashley telling Carroll to put in a transfer request etc. It's embarrasing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I don't give a fuck about Andy's emotions today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Those blaming Carroll can fuck off, you obviously dont have a clue. Those blaming Ashley likewise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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