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West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll


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indeed. all about the bigger picture. Given, N'Zogbia, Milner, Bassong, Carroll. the pattern has now been set. I think it is reasonable to guess that this time next year or even in the summer we will be having this same conversation about someone like Tiote or Enrique. They'll have caught the eye of a bigger club, we'll have negotiated hard for a big fee, and maybe they'll have put in a transfer request to escape an unambitious club with haphazard ownership. and the same cretins will come out and defend ashley and say "But Tiote/Enrique/Barton/Ben Arfa requested a transfer."

 

Do i blame Ashley for taking £35m rising to £40m? No, it's a great offer.

Do i blame Carroll for putting in a request and moving? No, it's a great opportunity for him and we're not exactly an enticing proposition.

 

However that shouldn't obscure the fact that under Ashley's tenure he's created a club that players like carroll want to escape from at the first sign of a better offer.

 

And let's be honest here, had the club not wanted to sell Carroll, then no matter what Carroll wants, he would've been going nowhere.

 

The club negotiated with liverpool all day, cancelled press conferences and so on - it seems fair to assume that they spent that time negotiating for the best price, knocking back the lower bids saying "not good enough" rather than"not for sale". some people are acting as if the only reason Carroll is going to Liverpool is because he put a transfer request in which seems, frankly, deluded. that happening just rubber stamped or speeded up the process, and gave the club a convenient excuse to take some heat off them.

 

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this whole thread today is a f***ing facepalm

 

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Who fucking cares about the smallprint:

 

Carroll has put in a transfer request; he evidently wants to leave NUFC and join Liverpool.

 

Ashley has accepted a bid from Liverpool; he evidently is happy to accept the money and sell Carroll to Liverpool.

 

They are both cunts. The rest is semantics, hearsay and obfuscation.

 

Chelsea get Torres, Liverpool get Suarez and Carroll and we are left holding the baby.

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Mick, Ashley could easily have paid him what he was going to get. It is money well spent by Ashley, judging by the reaction on here. Damn good PR.

 

Carroll handed in the transfer request, I'm sure that he would have been offered more money if he'd stayed.

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I'll keep repeating this:

 

It is typical in a players contract that they get a loyalty bonus when they leave, unless they submit a transfer request. This is why Milner submitted a transfer request. There is evidence to suggest that it is club policy to obtain a written transfer request where possible to avoid this payment.

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What kind of money will Carroll have given up by putting in a transfer request?

 

It's normally something like 10% of the fee isn't it?

 

£3,500,000 is a lot of money to make Mr Ashley (the one who really cares what we all think) look a bit better.

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955: I was speaking to a football agent last week, and he told me that if clubs wanted to wrap up deals in time to beat the 2300 GMT deadline for transfers, they really needed to have the player undergoing a medical by 2000 GMT so as to get the assessment done and dusted in time to get the required forms off to the Premier League. Consider this your five minute warning people.

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A polite request for no more "Carroll in Liverpool" pictures.

 

Makes me feel sick to see him with that bunch of scumbags.

 

Just wait for seeing him holding the red Nr.9 shirt.

 

Just wait for seeing him kiss the badge after his first goal

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he handed in a transfer request (Maybe a while back)

NUFC didn't want to reveal it at the time to get the best deal possible from x, y or z.

deal agreed

 

Maybe. :lol:

 

If he passes the medical with flying colours, might be something in this.

 

Also heard he fancied going somewhere the local birds offer a bit more fight. 

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I'll keep repeating this:

 

It is typical in a players contract that they get a loyalty bonus when they leave, unless they submit a transfer request. This is why Milner submitted a transfer request. There is evidence to suggest that it is club policy to obtain a written transfer request where possible to avoid this payment.

 

Given as well. The player wont lose out as the agent will wangle that at the other end but it is few quid saved for the selling club.

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What kind of money will Carroll have given up by putting in a transfer request?

 

It's normally something like 10% of the fee isn't it?

 

£3,500,000 is a lot of money to make Mr Ashley (the one who really cares what we all think) look a bit better.

 

Yep.

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Oh how I wished Gilett was still at Liverpool with Woy pulling the strings.Having said that,I think we have a great deal here but only if it is re-invested,and that is where my enthusiasm is somewhat blighted.

 

I agree, the only person to let the fans down today has been Carroll.

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